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Thursday 9th January 2020
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@PF
It was me!
It was me!
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Thanks!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@PF
It was me!
(Bloody egomaniac.)
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Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -is-a-cityTown of the Year push falls flat after failure to realise site is a city
Wolverhampton, chosen as launch location for contest, has not been a town since 2000
A new government Town of the Year competition has backfired spectacularly after officials failed to realise that it was being launched in a place that has been a city for 19 years.
Civic leaders in Wolverhampton expressed incredulity after the communities secretary Robert Jenrick was described in a government press release as “kicking off his countrywide town tour in Wolverhampton”.(Guardian)
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Making a good start on impressing their new voters. Who'd have thought it.
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Though this just shows the silliness of the cities/towns dichotomy anyway.
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Given that they were content to vote for the party who have closed down so much of the city in the last nine years, I struggle to think they will care about this.gilsey wrote:Making a good start on impressing their new voters. Who'd have thought it.
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But it was Labour that did that wasn't it? <upsidedownhead>
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That does seem to be the idea. Or possibly the EU.gilsey wrote:But it was Labour that did that wasn't it? <upsidedownhead>
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Lots of people who switched to the Tories seemed to think so, and we can't tell them they are mistaken in this because that would be "patronising".gilsey wrote:But it was Labour that did that wasn't it? <upsidedownhead>
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It seems in a lot of areas of the NHS you have to ring up and chase appointments to get them at all these days. If you don't know to chase them, you fall through the gaps. Older people seem to understand this better than younger people in my experience and have fewer qualms about jumping up and down until they're seen. It really is appalling this young person has gone blind through lack of treatment. I don't really understand the NHS response about cataracts either. If you are short on staff, surely glaucoma patients should come before cataract patients as cataracts are generally less urgent compared to glaucoma where you only have a small window to diagnose and prevent permanent damage.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... port-finds
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There you are Willow, hope all's well. Domestically, not politically, I mean.
I saw this comment from Wren-Lewis and thought of you.
He was responding to this.
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I saw this comment from Wren-Lewis and thought of you.
(My asterisk) *with brexit.simon wren-lewis
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Labour are falling into the same trap* as they did with austerity and immigration, which is to believe that if you lose an election you cannot continue to criticise the main policies of your opponent.
He was responding to this.
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Reported by the BBC as being a problem 'for the NHS', no mention of the govt.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... t-ae-units
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Are there any indications that Labour *are* supporting (or even going along with) a "cliff edge" though?
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It's at the beginning of that twitter thread, Starmer trying to oppose it. Of course it wouldn't pass but you know, opposition, the clue's in the name.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Are there any indications that Labour *are* supporting (or even going along with) a "cliff edge" though?
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lots of angst at the shadow cabinet today as Keir Starmer proposed an amendment to extend Brexit transition period by two years if no EU trade deal by July - prompting uproar from at least 8 shadow cabinet ministers who spoke out against the idea....he ended up dropping it
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I had heard about that, but there is an argument that such things should be left until after Brexit is "done" on Feb 1st.
When a lot of people will come to realise that it isn't "done" after all, that is the time to strike.
(and of course if Starmer gets the leadership, he will have more freedom to pursue the path he wants)
When a lot of people will come to realise that it isn't "done" after all, that is the time to strike.
(and of course if Starmer gets the leadership, he will have more freedom to pursue the path he wants)
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If there are people in the shadow cabinet still choosing to conflate 'leaving the EU' with 'the manner in which we leave the EU' then please let's get on with the leadership election.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I had heard about that, but there is an argument that such things should be left until after Brexit is "done" on Feb 1st.
When a lot of people will come to realise that it isn't "done" after all, that is the time to strike.
(and of course if Starmer gets the leadership, he will have more freedom to pursue the path he wants)
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The suspense is killing me re Barry Gardiner. The nation waits.
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Oh Gino
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What the hell are you lot on about?
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Academic inspiration, you gave me none
But you were Barry the lover
the fighter that won.
But you were Barry the lover
the fighter that won.
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Eh? What are you referring to? Stuff in general?tinyclanger2 wrote:What the hell are you lot on about?
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When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.
I am not a man,I am Gardiner.
I am not a man,I am Gardiner.
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Does my bum look big in this.
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The answer my friend is not blowing out wind,but it certainly provides relief
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Norris the Belisha Beacon announces candidature
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If you can't say something sensible always say it;"it"
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Question Time tonight. I hope Sky'sGoneOut is prepared to do the necessary.
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There is nothing unSocialist or sexist in the expression of opinions as regards the gobby foghorn who does she thinks she is candidate among the true Socialists,some of whom have evidenced their true loyalty by being a member of the party for a few seconds at some time
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Of course of more than a few seconds that would be careerist.
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I’m on about all this cryptic crossword business that that PfY keeps doing and everyone goes “ah yes” and I’m thinking what the ....?
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Gardinered.
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Weebles do fall down,it's a lie
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My son's been a bit poorly and one of the guinea pigs is very poorly so it's been a bit hectic and I've been feeling pretty zonked out. Hopefully things will settle down soon.gilsey wrote:There you are Willow, hope all's well. Domestically, not politically, I mean.
I saw this comment from Wren-Lewis and thought of you.
(My asterisk) *with brexit.simon wren-lewis
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@jonlis1
Labour are falling into the same trap* as they did with austerity and immigration, which is to believe that if you lose an election you cannot continue to criticise the main policies of your opponent.
He was responding to this.
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And yes, I very much agree with Wren-Lewis. On all three points Labour have started (or are in danger of starting) a term in opposition by saying the Tories were right and they were wrong. Why do they keep doing this? The result is those voting Tory feel vindicated and are likely to vote Tory again while those voting Labour end up feeling unrepresented and betrayed.
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A fish not called Rwanda
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Leant,crying in confusion ...
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Norris v Boris.
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The Black Forest is not made from gateaux,it's a lie
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Well, I did say "in my experience" as I wasn't sure if this was a general thing or just that I know a lot of pushy older peopleHindleA wrote:Not sure about Willow's point re older people,my dad died before he should,partially be because didn't have the energy to pursue and the problem which finished him off put down to "being old"
Having said that, using a service more frequently makes people more adept at using it and older people as a whole (though not necessarily on an individual basis of course) tend to interact with the NHS more than younger people. And, indeed, give each other tips, such as chasing up appointments by phone.
Your point is equally valid, though. Sometimes those who need the NHS most are least able to battle through the bureaucracy of appointments effectively because they are more ill. When my brother-in-law had a severe head injury his ability to access timely appropriate care was severely compromised by the fact he had a head injury and barely knew what he was doing when a useless nurse in a minor injuries unit sent him home with a wad of bandages held to his head because they were out of tape.
All of which is longhand for the NHS is underfunded and unnecessarily complicated by the internal market and tendering out of contracts.
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@TC The Gino comment was a reference to Mark Francois. It's his middle name. He wants Big Ben to bong on Brexit night
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They're usually anagrams of the names of people in the news (more often than not, the names of politicians).tinyclanger2 wrote:I’m on about all this cryptic crossword business that that PfY keeps doing and everyone goes “ah yes” and I’m thinking what the ....?
And my internet connection's on the blink tonight. It seems to happen when there's very heavy rainfall. Just so's you know.
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Fair enough,the situation regarding learning disabled people,people in wheelchairs etc -"is she always like this "(mis)assumptions a regular barrier we met when ill both in prescriptive/outcome terms and to be frank how she was dealt with.
You think they will live forever my thoughts musings coming to terms are still in production and not properly formed,as yett.Tryi g to understand the completely understandable giving age and ailments etc
You think they will live forever my thoughts musings coming to terms are still in production and not properly formed,as yett.Tryi g to understand the completely understandable giving age and ailments etc
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Barry Gardiner will not stand.
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Bumboils,I thought it was a spelling mistake,hence Dexy's reference
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The Gardiner comment's not cryptic.
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