https://discussion.theguardian.com/comm ... /137878737" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;frog222 wrote:I was horrified that Starmer, Nandy, and RL-B were all apparently going to treat Brexit (whatever that is!) as a fact of life , a fait accompli !Willow904 wrote:Given we're no longer in the EU, that's kind of obvious. Unless you're saying Long Bailey and Nandy think Labour members are all dim-witted morons with less grasp of current affairs than a four year old, the only reason to tell people Brexit is over and they need to move on is because they have no intention of opposing and fighting the anti-immigration, full and complete break from EU institutions favoured by leave voters of the type they think Labour have lost in their northern heartlands and are desperate to win back with appeasement and a shift to more socially conservative values.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Those things should all be fought for, its just that for now we will have to do it outside the EU.
As I say, if that's not what they are intending to signal, they're going to need to choose their words far more carefully.
barney10 @itz4kixAKA 4h ago
Good stuff on the cartoon thread"" but now is the time to sit unequivocally & unapologetically on that fence. & let the Cons own brexit:
I think the Labour party should be making noises about rejoining if and when it all goes tits up but I get your point about keeping out of it for now.
But I don't buy this line about the conservatives owning all of Brexit. Corbyn imposed a three-line whip and was as anxious as the Tories to trigger A50.
He bears some of the blame for it, and for sitting on the fence all those years because in the final analysis he was a Leaver too. ""
Yeah, well, exactly ! Corbyn wasn't up to it . SO ..... admit the good things he did, and chuck him out .