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Wednesday 11th March 2020

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Morning all.
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It's desperate, isn't it. 3 old white men competing to be POTUS and the only one of them who can actually string a sentence together is practically out of the race.

US electorate maybe too sophisticated, won't vote for Warren because they think others won't vote for Warren.
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I hope the govt haven't made a terrible mistake letting Cheltenham go ahead, you would think statistically there'll be at least a couple of infected people in the crowd. It's not like a football match, people are moving about all the time, and wads of cash changing hands. Ireland should be concerned too.

Good luck with tracing contacts if anyone does get ill.
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Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.
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I think it speaks volumes about this government that the first drastic measure in response to coronavirus is designed to protect business from the effects of people getting ill rather than to protect people from the virus.
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Maybe if the UK posted bridge heights in metric as well as imperial, they might mean something to people under the age of 50 and from elsewhere in Europe. Just a thought.
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MP in coronavirus isolation urges Boris Johnson to call NHS 111 over Nadine Dorries contact
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gilsey wrote:
It's desperate, isn't it. 3 old white men competing to be POTUS and the only one of them who can actually string a sentence together is practically out of the race.

US electorate maybe too sophisticated, won't vote for Warren because they think others won't vote for Warren.
It remains the case that the Democratic establishment could have thrown their weight behind Warren, had they been so minded.

Too many of them did not want to.
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Willow904 wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true
MP in coronavirus isolation urges Boris Johnson to call NHS 111 over Nadine Dorries contact
"" Downing Street sources said Boris Johnson has no symptoms of coronavirus “so there is no need for a test”. ""

So Number Ten is as much against 'science' as Trump !

I thought everyone knew by now that the average time between infection and symptoms appearing is Five Days ?
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If he gets it, mind........
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frog222 wrote:
Willow904 wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true
MP in coronavirus isolation urges Boris Johnson to call NHS 111 over Nadine Dorries contact
"" Downing Street sources said Boris Johnson has no symptoms of coronavirus “so there is no need for a test”. ""

So Number Ten is as much against 'science' as Trump !

I thought everyone knew by now that the average time between infection and symptoms appearing is Five Days ?
There seems to be conflicting advice, with a Labour MP being told by 111 to self-isolate despite no symptoms because of contact with a confirmed case, but Johnson informed (by whom, exactly?) there was no need.

Meanwhile, those with symptoms but no confirmed contact can't get tested. I understand this to a degree, given the vague symptoms, but someone with a cough and fever were told to go to work like normal. Even if they don't have coronavirus, they could still have the flu and shouldn't be spreading that around either.

It's all very hit and miss.
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Good morfternoon.

Jeremy Corbyn seems to be having a few problems with his voice and\or with reading John McDonnell's handwriting.



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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Jeremy Corbyn seems to be having a few problems with his voice and\or with reading John McDonnell's handwriting.

Edited - typo
Both of them are in the higher risk age group for this virus, hope they don't have cause to regret attending today.
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It SOUNDS as tho the UK is desperately short of kits , or is the government plain stupid ?

The case hospitalised here in Caen on Sunday resulted in a cluster of FIVE tested and confirmed more cases by midnight on Monday .

Apparently people are at their most infectious BEFORE symptoms show !

And that is how you 'flatten the curve' to put the least possible pressure on an emergency system which is already stretched to breaking-point .
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Worth looking at the distributional impact to counter the supposed "same as Labour/move to the left",hint,the poorest get cuts.
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Of already the lowest income,of course.
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Well, some of our political "journalists" are actually using the "Labour won the argument" line.

Easy for them to do so now, of course.
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Another corrective to all the overnight spin. Yes there will be £640bn in infrastructure spending. But that is a gross figure. Net it is £460bn.
More importantly, the actual NEW money is about £91bn.
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What a surprise.
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Sanders about to make "an announcement", it appears.
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The FTSE 100 has closed down 83 points, or 1.4%, at 5876, after another torrid day.

That, I calculate, means it has lost 20% of its value since the current slump began two and a half weeks ago.
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Shared ownership Right to Buy likely to be applied to all rented homes funded under £12bn programme


Housing association homes built for rent under the government’s new Affordable Homes Programme look set to be automatically made available to tenants as shared ownership properties.
Sector figures have been briefed by the Treasury that the government is looking to put conditions on funding from Homes England and the Greater London Authority that will ensure homes built for both affordable and social rent tenures will give tenants the option to own through shared ownership.

Sources close to the Treasury told Inside Housing that the government is contemplating the move. More details about the Affordable Homes Programme are expected in the coming weeks.

The revelations come after chancellor Rishi Sunak announced in his Budget today that the government would be committing £12bn to a five-year Affordable Homes Programme, which will start in 2021. The new programme marks a £3bn increase on the current £9bn programme, set to end in March next year.
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In October at the Conservative Party conference, housing secretary Robert Jenrick announced that he would be looking to introduced a new shared ownership Right to Buy scheme that would give housing association tenants of newly built homes the option to buy their home under a ‘right to shared ownership’.

However, the proposals were met with criticism by housing association figures, with some raising concerns over the impact it would have on landlords’ ability to borrow money for new development. The National Housing Federation said it could worsen the housing crisis.

Some believed that the policy may have been dropped after it was omitted from the Conservative Party’s manifesto ahead of the general election, but the government confirmed last month that it was still on the table.
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Starter for ten,guess where.
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Just got a message from 19yo elder granddaughter.

She's nearing the end of third year medicine in Caen .

Nowadays you don't get call-up papers in the post , she's just been warned that she's going to be 'requisitioned', by e-mail .
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OBR forecasting full roll out of UC now 2026 but still on time and on budget.The above link to IDS ,Stroud and DWP bod was excrutiating to watch,I don't know what was worse their utter ignorance/patronisation/self deception they had a scooby do wtf they were talking about or that the committee took them in anyway seriously
In a sane World IDS and Stroud shouldn't have got anywhere near this stuff never mind have any influence whatsoever.
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Hindle- we are not in a sane World ?

OH ! While renewing a page, I came across this --

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No. I married for love.

What are you, a hooker? ""
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Perhaps someone could make this 'clickable' ????????????????????????????,
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It is for me?
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Though wary of watching coverage,given mum's at risk for multiple reasons.
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Tbh equally angry at the "agree on principle" ists,in effect facilitators providing continued cover.
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Needless to say IDS was late.
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Three year sanctions ended.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sanders about to make "an announcement", it appears.
Despite speculation beforehand, it was that he is fighting on - for now.
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Consulting on carers leave for those that are "hard working",so hard working er they have time to also work(I've done both,u fortunately I wouldn't have been able to work under the supposed make work pay regime.
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(non too subtle nudge bollox.)
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No citizenJA for a couple of days now.
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HindleA wrote:OBR forecasting full roll out of UC now 2026 but still on time and on budget.The above link to IDS ,Stroud and DWP bod was excrutiating to watch,I don't know what was worse their utter ignorance/patronisation/self deception they had a scooby do wtf they were talking about or that the committee took them in anyway seriously
In a sane World IDS and Stroud shouldn't have got anywhere near this stuff never mind have any influence whatsoever.
When Universal Credit was first announced I was expecting to probably be among the last legacy benefits to move over, being only on child tax credits.

My youngest will be 20 in 2026.

I must admit, I didn't expect it to take quite that long!
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