Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Thursday 2nd April 2020
Morning all.
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Morning all.
So...what's occurring?
So...what's occurring?
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Did you want to be terrified or cheered up?
Coronavirus: London hospital almost runs out of oxygen for Covid-19 patients
If I find something in the latter category I'll let you know.
Coronavirus: London hospital almost runs out of oxygen for Covid-19 patients
If I find something in the latter category I'll let you know.
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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2020
More on face masks.
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The Hospital Consultants and Specialists Association (HCSA) says the virus is so widespread and infectious, and the risks to frontline staff so great, that everyone in hospital should always have their mouth covered to reduce the risk of transmission.
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(((Dawn Butler)))
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My uncle had a fall he didn't have COVID19. He caught it in hospital and has now sadly died from COVID19.
Just a few weeks ago we buried his only Son. We are devastated as a family but I'm also angry.
Government needs to Test everyone who works in the hospitals without delay!
10:23 AM · Apr 2, 2020
@DawnButlerBrent
My uncle had a fall he didn't have COVID19. He caught it in hospital and has now sadly died from COVID19.
Just a few weeks ago we buried his only Son. We are devastated as a family but I'm also angry.
Government needs to Test everyone who works in the hospitals without delay!
10:23 AM · Apr 2, 2020
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This morning's papers.
Ouch.
Ouch.
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Good morfternoon.
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Jonathan LisAnatolyKasparov wrote:This morning's papers.
Ouch.
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For many years the Telegraph has acted, quite literally, as Boris Johnson’s personal mouthpiece. This front page is unprecedented. The government’s in deep shit.
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Mòrag Staying at home
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@jonlis1
At last. Telegraph have realised that their readership is toast.
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At last. Telegraph have realised that their readership is toast.
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I'll leave it there.Andrew Lloyd Webber is to stream a selection of his musicals online for free starting with Donny Osmond in Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Just half an hour to vote in the Labour leadership election(s) if you haven't already.......
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Already done it - but thanks, anyway, for the reminder.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just half an hour to vote in the Labour leadership election(s) if you haven't already.......
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Oh what a joy...if that's not a way of getting people to get out of the house and exercise, I don't know what will.PorFavor wrote:I'll leave it there.Andrew Lloyd Webber is to stream a selection of his musicals online for free starting with Donny Osmond in Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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And the Labour voting window has now (in football transfer parlance) SLAMMED SHUT! There is a "Corbyn countdown clock" out there online for the truly obsessed
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Same herePorFavor wrote:Already done it - but thanks, anyway, for the reminder.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just half an hour to vote in the Labour leadership election(s) if you haven't already.......
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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It's still not so shouty as the othersgilsey wrote:Jonathan LisAnatolyKasparov wrote:This morning's papers.
Ouch.
@jonlis1
For many years the Telegraph has acted, quite literally, as Boris Johnson’s personal mouthpiece. This front page is unprecedented. The government’s in deep shit.
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I saw nothing to indicate 'LARGE'
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Faisal Islam
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Initial US jobless claims, a staggering 6.6 million last week up from 3.3 million the week before, and a normal week over past year of 200k.
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Initial US jobless claims, a staggering 6.6 million last week up from 3.3 million the week before, and a normal week over past year of 200k.
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Can someone explain to me what this article is about, please? The author seems to be suggesting all government did wrong was use a poor choice of words.The real reason the UK government pursued “herd immunity” – and why it was abandoned
How an attempt to justify mass public gatherings became viewed as a cold-blooded experiment in social engineering.
By Lawrence Freedman
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National Theatre live at home starts tonight - livestreamed at 7pm (although obviously they're just 'playing' the recording 'live' on YouTube at 7pm) and then available to watch all week. One Man Two Guvnors is first and is really good.RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh what a joy...if that's not a way of getting people to get out of the house and exercise, I don't know what will.PorFavor wrote:I'll leave it there.Andrew Lloyd Webber is to stream a selection of his musicals online for free starting with Donny Osmond in Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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They just can't stop, can they.Anna Soubry
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Whilst responsibility lies ultimately with the Govt. this overly bureaucratic approach is sadly typical of much of the management of the #NHS & it has to change - now. We’re in a national emergency.
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In the interests of 'efficiency', the Conservatives have dismantled the structure of the NHS over 10 years. Instead of management, NHS has administration.
Steve Richards said 'An inexperienced Number 10 of Brexit campaigners unclear what levers to pull'.
I'd say they've done away with most of the levers.
We used to have Area Health Authorities, those were the days.
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Personally I think this a better summation of what the government got wrong and why:citizenJA wrote:Can someone explain to me what this article is about, please? The author seems to be suggesting all government did wrong was use a poor choice of words.The real reason the UK government pursued “herd immunity” – and why it was abandoned
How an attempt to justify mass public gatherings became viewed as a cold-blooded experiment in social engineering.
By Lawrence Freedman
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -abandoned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-anal ... -otherwise" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Coronavirus is political. Don't let them tell you otherwise.
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One of Susan Oosthuizen's threads is being written as we speak...
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I wonder how soon it will sink into Tory MPs that what they're seeing is the result of the structures put in place by Andrew Lansley?
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Quote from adam National Theatre live at home starts tonight - livestreamed at 7pm (although obviously they're just 'playing' the recording 'live' on YouTube at 7pm) and then available to watch all week. One Man Two Guvnors is first and is really good.[/quote]
Looking forward to seeing this as we missed it at the time. Next week's play is Twelfth Night, with Tamsin Greig, which was so good the entire Sonny family saw it twice!
Looking forward to seeing this as we missed it at the time. Next week's play is Twelfth Night, with Tamsin Greig, which was so good the entire Sonny family saw it twice!
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Yes. This line in particular...Willow904 wrote:Personally I think this a better summation of what the government got wrong and why:citizenJA wrote:Can someone explain to me what this article is about, please? The author seems to be suggesting all government did wrong was use a poor choice of words.The real reason the UK government pursued “herd immunity” – and why it was abandoned
How an attempt to justify mass public gatherings became viewed as a cold-blooded experiment in social engineering.
By Lawrence Freedman
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -abandoned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-anal ... -otherwise" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Coronavirus is political. Don't let them tell you otherwise.
...a government response to every challenge - 'we are ramping up efforts'.
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I'll give the Andy Warhol a swerve, but the Aubrey Beardsley one is of interest to me.Tate is to release free online tours of two major exhibitions that closed early because of the coronavirus lockdown.
Tate Modern’s Andy Warhol show and Tate Britain’s Aubrey Beardsley show were on the list of must-sees for many art-lovers. They both opened in early March to positive reviews before closing when the galleries abruptly shut down on 17 March. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Does anyone here know who we're being treated to today, Government spokesperson-wise?
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After yesterday, I'm at least guessing it won't be Sharma again?PorFavor wrote:Does anyone here know who we're being treated to today, Government spokesperson-wise?
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My guess is Rick, Apprentice Communications AssistantPorFavor wrote:Does anyone here know who we're being treated to today, Government spokesperson-wise?
I've no doubt it'll be an improvement
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Its actually.........Liz Truss
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Matt Hancock is back is what I've heard, while Boris is still feeling poorly/sorry for himself - delete as appropriate.
Liz Truss was rumoured at one point, but I'm not sure the government could have survived that.
Liz Truss was rumoured at one point, but I'm not sure the government could have survived that.
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Liz (Atlas Shrugged) Truss ?citizenJA wrote:My guess is Rick, Apprentice Communications AssistantPorFavor wrote:Does anyone here know who we're being treated to today, Government spokesperson-wise?
I've no doubt it'll be an improvement
To be followed by remaining culprits for "Britannia Unchained " !
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Oops, cross post. And two possibilities. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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The one who has a Union Flag at home...AnatolyKasparov wrote:Its actually.........Liz Truss
Desperate times call for desperate measures if she's the best they can come up with.
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oh damnitAnatolyKasparov wrote:Its actually.........Liz Truss
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Some good news!
Arron Banks fails in effort to use EU laws to avoid £162,000 tax bill
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Arron Banks fails in effort to use EU laws to avoid £162,000 tax bill
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... 0-tax-bill
"We also find that Mr Banks appears to be a nasty little hypocrite. So we're telling him to sod off"Banks challenged the decision at the first-tier tribunal, arguing the law on political donations being exempt from inheritance tax breached his human rights and breached EU law.
He claimed the provisions of the Inheritance Tax Act were unlawfully discriminatory under the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and also breached his – and Ukip’s – right to freedom of expression and freedom of assembly under the convention.
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Voted through by Shirley Williams et alRogerOThornhill wrote:I wonder how soon it will sink into Tory MPs that what they're seeing is the result of the structures put in place by Andrew Lansley?
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RIP Helen Pig. Confused billionaire asks for a bail out (6,5).
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This Tweet made me glad of my choice for Deputy
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Fresh Crace --
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From the above:
Overall Government accounts? No impact whatsoever.
I'd be very surprised if this didn't relate to just the accumulation of NHS spending more than its budget so they effectively owe the Treasury.First he was going to write off £13bn of NHS debt. On any other day this would have been the biggest news story – one that would have horrified most of his fellow Tory MPs – but now it was nothing more than a throwaway aside. An academic footnote.
Overall Government accounts? No impact whatsoever.
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I've never understood why some on the Labour left are so sniffy about her (well I sort of do, but I think they're wrong)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This Tweet made me glad of my choice for Deputy
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Goodnight, everyone.
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love,
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I like Angela Rayner. But I voted for Rosena Allin Khan.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I've never understood why some on the Labour left are so sniffy about her (well I sort of do, but I think they're wrong)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This Tweet made me glad of my choice for Deputy
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