Thursday 10th September 2020
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Thursday 10th September 2020
Morning all.
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Morning all.
David Vance finally booted off Twitter and slunk off to Parler with all the rest of the nasty little racists.
Good way to start the day...how on earth he, who'd never been anything of any note whatsoever, managed to get a blue tick is beyond all comprehension
David Vance finally booted off Twitter and slunk off to Parler with all the rest of the nasty little racists.
Good way to start the day...how on earth he, who'd never been anything of any note whatsoever, managed to get a blue tick is beyond all comprehension
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The best bit...Richard Adams
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The DfE has outdone itself by publishing its updated Covid guidance for universities at 1.18AM this morning
Higher education: reopening buildings and campuses
Guidance for higher education providers in England on when and how to reopen their campuses and buildings.
gov.uk
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And it's clearly been rushed, because this section suggests an action unis could take to make sure they comply with the guidance is... complying with the guidance?
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Isn't a blue tick just a confirmation that you are who you say you are? IIRC it started to distinguish "real" people in the public eye from (often convincing) parody accounts.RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
David Vance finally booted off Twitter and slunk off to Parler with all the rest of the nasty little racists.
Good way to start the day...how on earth he, who'd never been anything of any note whatsoever, managed to get a blue tick is beyond all comprehension
Agree on the more general point, it goes without saying
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Good morfternoon.
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What does that remind me of? Could it be something connected to "Brexit"?Boris Johnson pinning hopes on £100bn 'moonshot' to avoid second lockdown
Some of the technology it would require does not yet exist. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... apers-show
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Conservative minister Jacob Rees-Mogg is self-isolating at home after one of his children showed symptoms of coronavirus.
He said the child had been tested for the virus and the family was isolating while they waited for the test result.
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But we were first told kids couldn't get it, and later if they did it was nothing to worry about?
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Re: Thursday 10th September 2020
Oh no!
The Emma Peel version of The Avengers was absolutely classic TV.
BBC Breaking News
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Actress Dame Diana Rigg, known for roles from The Avengers to Games of Thrones, dies aged 82
The Emma Peel version of The Avengers was absolutely classic TV.
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Though she shouldn't be pigeonholed for that, enjoying a strikingly long and varied career. RIP.
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"Mother Love" was an especial favourite of mine.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Though she shouldn't be pigeonholed for that, enjoying a strikingly long and varied career. RIP.
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Nice to see you in the hours of daylight PF.PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
What does that remind me of? Could it be something connected to "Brexit"?Boris Johnson pinning hopes on £100bn 'moonshot' to avoid second lockdown
Some of the technology it would require does not yet exist. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... apers-show
The old 'alternative arrangements' for the Irish Border, you're thinking?
We need some real technology for the borders with the EU on 1 Jan and they've barely started on it.
It made me think about how, every time the existing testing system fails to meet its target, they come up with an even bigger and more unlikely one.
Taking time to ensure it works is apparently unthinkable.
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Boom.
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EU expects UK government to withdraw controversial measures in draft Internal Market Bill 'in shortest time possible and in any case by the end of the month' - EU statement
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So......can you imagine the sort of people who might be up for being "covid marshals"?
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Yes - that's exactly what I was thinking of.
Yes - that's exactly what I was thinking of.
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This mortality thing isn't working out for me.RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh no!
BBC Breaking News
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Actress Dame Diana Rigg, known for roles from The Avengers to Games of Thrones, dies aged 82
The Emma Peel version of The Avengers was absolutely classic TV.
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Evil Under the SunPorFavor wrote:"Mother Love" was an especial favourite of mine.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Though she shouldn't be pigeonholed for that, enjoying a strikingly long and varied career. RIP.
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I'd prefer not to think about that.AnatolyKasparov wrote:So......can you imagine the sort of people who might be up for being "covid marshals"?
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Brussels has given Boris Johnson three weeks to drop plans to break international law or the UK will face financial or trade sanctions, as EU lawyers ruled that Britain has already breached the withdrawal agreement by tabling the internal market bill... .
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Apparently Suella Braverman has put some words down...the Secret Barrister is not overly impressed.
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1 GBP = 1.08 EUR
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She really does have to be one of the most embarrassing government appointments of all.RogerOThornhill wrote:Apparently Suella Braverman has put some words down...the Secret Barrister is not overly impressed.
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I recommend reading the whole thing. It's sensible and rational, unlike Johnson's government.The EU remains committed to an ambitious future partnership with the UK. This would clearly be to the benefit of both sides. Nobody should underestimate the practical, economic and social consequences of a “no deal” scenario.Statement by Michel Barnier following Round 8 of negotiations for a new partnership between the European Union and the United Kingdom
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To conclude a future partnership, mutual trust and confidence are and will be necessary. The Chief Negotiators and their teams will remain in contact over the coming days. At the same time, the EU is intensifying its preparedness work to be ready for all scenarios on 1 January 2021.
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Tory MPs with constituents unable to get CV19 tests are complaining.
Hancock faltered out something about "naysayers" in response.
Hancock faltered out something about "naysayers" in response.
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jesusUK records nearly 3,000 new infections
The UK has recorded nearly 3,000 new cases of coronavirus, on the fifth day in a row the number in which more than 2,000 infections have been detected.
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I believe we will beat this virus before too long.
So let’s work together and follow the rules. From Monday socialise in groups of no more than six, and remember to wash your hands, cover your face and make space.
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From the Professor of Public Law at Cambridge
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He does go on to explain why.
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Mark Elliott
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Attorney General
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still hasn’t resigned, but she has broken her recent silence on the Internal Market Bill by publishing a statement of HM Government’s ‘legal position’ on it.
It runs to one side of A4.
And it is utterly risible.
He does go on to explain why.
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And using Gina Miller in their "Parliament is sovereign" line that they're using - that's just trolling...
In other news I see that Laurence Fox has been making himself look foolish. Again.
In other news I see that Laurence Fox has been making himself look foolish. Again.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:From the Professor of Public Law at Cambridge
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Mark Elliott
@ProfMarkElliott
Attorney General
@SuellaBraverman
still hasn’t resigned, but she has broken her recent silence on the Internal Market Bill by publishing a statement of HM Government’s ‘legal position’ on it.
It runs to one side of A4.
And it is utterly risible.
He does go on to explain why.
Mark Elliott
@ProfMarkElliott
The contention appears to be that because the UK’s internal constitutional arrangements allow Parliament, as a matter of *domestic* law, validly to enact any *domestic* law, this somehow makes it acceptable for the UK to breach *international* law. That is a non sequitur. /4
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The Government’s argument is that Parliament’s legal capacity in domestic law to make any law it wants somehow makes it acceptable, as a matter of international law, for the UK to renege on its treaty obligations. But the latter does not follow from the former. /7
Contrary to the Government’s position, the UK, like every other State, is required in international law to abide by its treaty obligations. Neither parliamentary sovereignty nor the notion of dualism is any answer to that point. /8
The UK may have left the EU, but it has not left the community of nations or the rules-based international order. Treaty obligations are binding upon the UK, and to suggest that they are not ‘because Parliament is sovereign’ is as embarrassing as it is dangerous. /ends
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I apologise for the lengthy quote above.
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I'm stunned.
I understand there's a percentage of the population who'll like this, the Tory voters will like this, many of them.
That don't cut no wise with other sovereign nations.
I don't think government are concerned about the people who'll be at the sharp end of justifiable sanctions in response to government's illegal manoeuvres.
I understand there's a percentage of the population who'll like this, the Tory voters will like this, many of them.
That don't cut no wise with other sovereign nations.
I don't think government are concerned about the people who'll be at the sharp end of justifiable sanctions in response to government's illegal manoeuvres.
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Rebecca Front being almost Starmeresque in not rising to his bait, though.RogerOThornhill wrote:And using Gina Miller in their "Parliament is sovereign" line that they're using - that's just trolling...
In other news I see that Laurence Fox has been making himself look foolish. Again.
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Yes, she probably thought "Well, you've just proved me right in what I did" and left it at that.
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NO need !citizenJA wrote:I apologise for the lengthy quote above.
In fact very useful for me , as bloody twitter no longer lets me read tweets ... unless I sign up !
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Fintan O'Toole -- they planned to renege all along
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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
What does that remind me of? Could it be something connected to "Brexit"?Boris Johnson pinning hopes on £100bn 'moonshot' to avoid second lockdown
Some of the technology it would require does not yet exist. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... apers-show
Allan Wilson, president of the Institute of Biomedical Science.The numbers are a bit dramatic. For example, with rapid tests that are available at the moment, you probably can do no more than about 100 a day. So if he’s aiming for 10m a day, that’s quite a target to aim for.
(with some snipping)Mass screening always seems like a good idea. But the huge danger is false positives ... if you are going to have a test that would allow someone into a theatre, or allow them back to work, you have to be really sure they are not infectious. So you have to set a threshold that is not very sensitive, that would pick up anything that hints at being infectious. That means that such a test will always generate a very large number of false positives. if you only have 1% false positives among all the people who are not infectious, and you are testing the whole country, that’s 600,000 people unnecessarily labelled as positive ...
Prof David Spiegelhalter, professor of the public understanding of risk at Cambridge University
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Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
love,
cJA
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Night night.citizenJA wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
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Re: Thursday 10th September 2020
Interesting...
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Effectively saying in the 'staff will wish to note' bit that it's "Nothing to do with me"...
And I note from this that Tim Montgomery wants to disagree with Charlie Falconer but so far hasn't found the way of doing so. Probably because he can't.
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Effectively saying in the 'staff will wish to note' bit that it's "Nothing to do with me"...
And I note from this that Tim Montgomery wants to disagree with Charlie Falconer but so far hasn't found the way of doing so. Probably because he can't.
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Night night.