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Tuesday 3rd November 2020

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Morning all.
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Morning all.

This is pretty hilarious.

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*unt's on manoeuvres again I see, shamelessly backing local TTI, just in case it turns out Sunak's too closely associated with the shitshow.

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He's completely blameless about the NHS' shortcomings, of course. :roll:
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Oh dear, the Conservative Woman is not happy...

My letter to Michael Gove

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I hold no brief for Mr Johnson, who I long suspected to be a man with little principle, now seemingly a man who is also easily spooked and dominated. You, I thought, were different – not one to fall for Leftist authoritarianism or for NHS emoting claptrap. I thought you were honourable.
:lol:

And you have to wonder about someone who thinks that Toby Young's advice is the line that should be followed...
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Good morning, everyone.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

This is pretty hilarious.

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Adonis actually tweeting something other than adoration of Blair/contempt of Corbyn? That alone is pretty noteworthy tbf ;)
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Good morfternoon.

Is Rishi Sunak's decision to send in Stephen Barclay to answer the urgent question to the Treasury an indication that he's aware that not only is his star now somewhat tarnished, but that Labour now has its firepower trained on him, and has thus decided to keep his head down?
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Quite possibly.

As an aside here, its notable how certain hacks don't like Dodds questioning Sunak (in both a metaphorical and even literal sense)

I wonder why that might be?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Quite possibly.

As an aside here, its notable how certain hacks don't like Dodds questioning Sunak (in both a metaphorical and even literal sense)

I wonder why that might be?
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The Secret Barrister
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Hard to think of a political decision in recent history where there was so obviously a right and wrong choice.

Racism, sexism, nepotism, corruption, fraud, pro-violence, pro-sexual violence, anti-science, anti-democracy & responsibility for 100,000s of deaths.

Or the other guy.
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Quite.
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So let's have a roll call - who is actually staying up for tonight?
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I'll be there as the insomnia determines
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Not me. I've been felling a bit crap all day (medical terminology) - just dizziness which will pass but need sleep.

I even missed my swim so hope that I'm OK for tomorrow - last chance...
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Just had a look back at how this place covered four years ago - amongst other things it was a reminder that the earliest indications weren't too bad for HRC.

Its not over till its over......
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Fat ladies and all that.
Probably can't say that either.
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I'll do my best.

Despite the fact I'm beginning to have a bad feeling about this.
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yes
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We have been for some time in a period of cultural de-evolution
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(not us personally, or collectively as nesters, but as a species)
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:I'll do my best.

Despite the fact I'm beginning to have a bad feeling about this.
I was moderately optimistic about last year's election here, even on polling day.

That will teach me.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:We have been for some time in a period of cultural de-evolution

Was trying for the version with the prettier pitchers. Now I can't get anything at all. Oh, well. It was a bit depressing, anyway.
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How long have we been at the nest now. I've lived through some harrowing experiences with my fellow nesters. Brexit. General Elections. Trump. Covid. It does help.
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Am going to have to cheer myself up suddenly - hold on.
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Ah. Perfect:

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The don't make them like that anymore.
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Excellent bit of double pointing there from Mr Paris.

Am having a serious 80/90s clubbing urge. The Phonographique, the Poly Disco and Phoenix (Leeds); The Casablanca and Pink Parrot (Liverpool). Not forgetting the Cyprus Taven (Manchester).

Groove. On. Down.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:I was moderately optimistic about last year's election here, even on polling day.

That will teach me.
I've had the 'moderately optimistic' well and truly knocked out of me.

Biden's polling is better than Clinton's but his poll leads in states like Florida are well within the margin of error so this could go very badly indeed. He's still odds on favourite and has more routes to victory than Trump but as we saw last time that can be an illusory advantage.

One thing's for sure, if Trump loses Florida he's toast, whereas Biden can lose there but still win, so this could all be over very quickly or drag on for days and weeks while Trump whines and bitches about postal votes and anything else he can think of to cling on to power.
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Biden: "If you elect me, I’m gonna be an American president. There’s gonna be no red states or blue states. Just the United States.”

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Biden's 'Kinnock Plagiariasm' Controversy - 1988
I started thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? [Pointing to his wife in the audience:] Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I'm the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?
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Homeowner Arlene Hopkins, 66, a retired pharmaceutical saleswoman, praised Trump for his handling of the economy. Hopkins is however fundamentally a single-issue voter: “The main reason I would never vote for Joe Biden is because I am a practicing Catholic and abortion is considered intrinsically evil. That’s why I will never even consider voting for the Democratic party which is pro-abortion.”


Catholicism may need a rethink.
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adam wrote:Biden's 'Kinnock Plagiariasm' Controversy - 1988
I started thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? [Pointing to his wife in the audience:] Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I'm the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?
That was Kinnock's best speech, and still one of *the* best in my political lifetime.

Certainly knocks spots off that massively overrated 1985 effort.

(which was of course exhumed yet again with the Labour news a few days ago, its only 35 years ago now guys)
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This is interesting from 538- a video going through the 'what if' of polling being as wrong as last time. Short answer - Biden still wins. Tweak it a point fiurther wrong than last time - Biden still wins, by a whisker.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Homeowner Arlene Hopkins, 66, a retired pharmaceutical saleswoman, praised Trump for his handling of the economy. Hopkins is however fundamentally a single-issue voter: “The main reason I would never vote for Joe Biden is because I am a practicing Catholic and abortion is considered intrinsically evil. That’s why I will never even consider voting for the Democratic party which is pro-abortion.”


Catholicism may need a rethink.
That's Biden who would be the USA's second ever Catholic president.
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Ah, done it! At last. Although the moment has passed.

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adam wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
Homeowner Arlene Hopkins, 66, a retired pharmaceutical saleswoman, praised Trump for his handling of the economy. Hopkins is however fundamentally a single-issue voter: “The main reason I would never vote for Joe Biden is because I am a practicing Catholic and abortion is considered intrinsically evil. That’s why I will never even consider voting for the Democratic party which is pro-abortion.”


Catholicism may need a rethink.
That's Biden who would be the USA's second ever Catholic president.
I only "know" the Kennedys from what I've read but, on paper, I much prefer Robert Kennedy's politics to those of JFK. I'm sure you've all been waiting for me to impart that piece of information, so your wait is over.
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I had been wondering when you were going to get around to it.
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Nate Silver says the first interesting county they've seen actual votes for in Florida looks good for Biden. (Edit - actually he says 'promising' - Trump won last time by about a point - flipping that - yes, yes, just in one county - would be close to the proportionate margin for the state last time.)

Edit again- followed up by miama-dade, won by 30 points by clinton, seeing biden just 9 points ahead in early counting
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What channel are we watching?

It's the BBC for me, I find Andrew Neil's hair soothing.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:What channel are we watching?

It's the BBC for me, I find Andrew Neil's hair soothing.
I'm watching Sky at the moment, although Dermot Murnaghan is, as usual, extremely irritating. I don't find Andrew Neil's hair soothing, however - so, what to do?

Joe Biden tipped to win Vermont. There's a surprise. That's virtually a communist state in American terms, isn't it?
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Right, plan ... read/doze for an hour or so and then see where we are.
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I'm not liking this.
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me neither - trump definitely looking like he'll win florida.
something has gone tremendously wrong with the world.
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300,000 postal votes not delivered by the mail types, and 10 million phones receiving calls telling them to avoid queues by voting on Wednesday.
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PorFavor wrote:I don't find Andrew Neil's hair soothing.
You have to put yourself in the mindset of a cow, or perhaps donkey, with an itchy backside.
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This is beginning to look rather iffy, Florida, Georgia and North Carolina all going to Trump according to the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ident.html
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:This is beginning to look rather iffy, Florida, Georgia and North Carolina all going to Trump according to the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ident.html
Sky is being more upbeat, Biden-wise, on North Carolina.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I don't find Andrew Neil's hair soothing.
You have to put yourself in the mindset of a cow, or perhaps donkey, with an itchy backside.

I tried the BBC for a while, and had trouble finding Andrew Neil's hair at all - let alone finding it soothing. I'll try the cow trick.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:So let's have a roll call - who is actually staying up for tonight?
:rock:

I'm staying.
I think.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote:What channel are we watching?

It's the BBC for me, I find Andrew Neil's hair soothing.
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