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Thursday 4th February 2021

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Morning all.
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Good morning.


Peter Oborne's got a book out, The Assault on Truth.
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To mark publication I have sent 15 examples of misleading statements by Johnson or his ministers, which remain uncorrected on the Hansard record in defiance of Erskine May and the Ministerial Code, to Mr Speaker. Copied to party leaders.


I have also send the list of false and misleading statements to Jacob Rees-Mogg, leader of the Commons. I know he is a stickler for correct procedure. Also dispatched to Lord Evans, Chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life.
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Re: Thursday 4th February 2021

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Good morning.

Decent walk in the park with 'er outdoors spotting different birds n'stuff.

On this, I can't say I blame them...an agreement signed triumphantly 5 weeks ago and they now want to bin part of it!

Dublin and EU reject call to scrap Northern Ireland Brexit protocol

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The Irish foreign minister, Simon Coveney, told BBC Ulster “there is not going to be very dramatic change”, in the face of calls by the DUP for the protocol to be urgently axed.

“We want the protocol to function in a way that works for everyone, north and south, on the island of Ireland,” he said.

Foster hit back on the same programme, accusing Coveney of being “completely tone deaf to the concerns of unionism”.
Not actually his problem though - Foster ought to be having a go at the UK government about this.
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Re: Thursday 4th February 2021

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Well its the DUP innit, though maybe she is letting Johnson know what she thinks off the record.
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RogerOThornhill wrote: Foster ought to be having a go at the UK government about this.
Foster and the govt both volunteered for it. :roll:
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Re: Thursday 4th February 2021

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Well hi there, nice to see somebody else is about.
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Thread from Lewis Goodall on Scottish Affairs Select Committee

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Speakers note that were it not for Covid and the fact that so much demands has been suppressed as a result of European hospitality being effectively shut down, that the new export system would have collapsed completely.
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Anyone blithely dismissing these issue as teething problems needs to examine the testimony of these two select committees today. Problems which exist not only in Scottish and Welsh businesses but English ones too.
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Some of those fishing industry people also volunteered.
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If you mean that they voted for Brexit, then yeah. But several of them were also genuinely misled, it increasingly appears.
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Dougan cuts to the chase on NI.

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13) Those options are:
a UK asks to rejoin Custom Union+Single Market as third country
b UK asks to rejoin EU as Member State
c Northern Ireland rejoins EU through reunification with Republic
d Hard border, threat to GFA, risk of civil conflict
So, Tories / DUP: which one is it?
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I expect that actually it might be e) - there is some sort of fudge. But one which is more of a climbdown for us than them.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:If you mean that they voted for Brexit, then yeah. But several of them were also genuinely misled, it increasingly appears.
Up to a point.

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That article makes very real the fact that those that voted to leave the EU each had a bespoke-Brexit in mind.

Mr Buchan, then, wanted to leave without a 2-year transition, but needed migrant labour, wanted access to the EU market, but also wanted to trade across the globe.
Unicorns.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:I expect that actually it might be e) - there is some sort of fudge. But one which is more of a climbdown for us than them.
Ad infinitum, I'm sure.


But but but Brexit's done, isn't it?
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I have a small book called "Be A Unicorn: & live live on the bright side" by Sarah Ford. I particularly like the first bit of guidance on how to approach the reading of this tome:

"Always read this book with a smile on your face but not on the toilet (unicorns would never do that)"

[unicorn emoticon]
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Re: Thursday 4th February 2021

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gilsey wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I expect that actually it might be e) - there is some sort of fudge. But one which is more of a climbdown for us than them.
Ad infinitum, I'm sure.


But but but Brexit's done, isn't it?
Its "done" except for when it suits the government for it not to be done (ie a bit of flag waving to distract the masses)
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Which inevitably brings us here:
(from Unicorn not AK that is)
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Re: Thursday 4th February 2021

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Another day looks set to pass here without cJA's presence - hope that everything is OK there.
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