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Wednesday 2nd June 2021

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Morning all.
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Good morefternoon to all, going to be the hottest day of the year so far for many of us.
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I see Mr Wetherspoons wants to get more people in from Europe to staff his pubs
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Please excuse my extended absence here. It's been a difficult time; it still is. The citizen household are well enough. I hope everyone is is doing well.
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I've got to figure out the website.
It's lovely.
Thanking posts from all here was important to me but I'm okay with it's not being available.
I'm grateful flythenest is here.
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Some of us have been asking after you, nice to see your return :)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 12:46 pm Some of us have been asking after you, nice to see your return :)
Thank you. I've not been able to look at any news for awhile. Too overwhelmed .
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tinyclanger2 wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 12:05 pm I see Mr Wetherspoons wants to get more people in from Europe to staff his pubs
Does he realise he's locked inside a cognitive dissonance chamber?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 11:01 am Good morefternoon to all, going to be the hottest day of the year so far for many of us.
Please stay hydrated, wear sunscreen and wear a hat when outdoors.
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Her Twitter poll didn't end well. Perhaps blur wanted? (4,6)
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Good afternoon. Library day today but on reduced hours right now. Thankful I can get in at all really.

Oh dear...trying to do things on the cheap as usual despite the rhetoric.

If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Had my second jab today. The 'security' bloke on the door had his mask dangling under his chin even when he was walking around inside the vaccination centre. Outstanding.

I would have much preferred to have waited another fortnight but we've got a new variant that's spreading and doubling every week, it's like last September all over again, and like then I expect our government to do fuck all about it until infections are in the hundreds of thousands. 'Ah but the vaccines' they'd say, but only about 40% of the population are vaccinated. Which leads to another problem, letting a virus rip through a semi-vaccinated population is a really bad idea. You're allowing it to infect people who are partially vaccinated massively increasing the likelehood that it will mutate enough to evade the vaccines you have. You're almost daring it to do so. It's absolute madness. Our government, and about half of the Great British public, have learned absolutely nothing. Once again masks and social distancing on public transport and in shops have become entirely optional, while the infection rates in cities like Leeds, which had been dropping for months, have begun to inexorably rise again.

I really hope I'm wrong, but given the absolute shitshow we've experienced over the last 14 months I'm expecting things to get very bad, very quickly in the next few weeks.

Anyway hope you're all enjoying the sun. :D
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Homo sapiens we are not.
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Homo Dumbassiens.
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tinyclanger2 wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 12:05 pm I see Mr Wetherspoons wants to get more people in from Europe to staff his pubs
Am I right in thinking he'll now need to pay his staff £35,000 a year to match their previous right to settle which workers from the EU had before Brexit?

And, more importantly, to match the rights EU workers can get in other places looking for casual bar staff, such as Spain or Germany?

In some ways I think it important to separate out these individual, damaging policy choices from the idea of Brexit because they aren't necessary consequences of leaving the EU at all but are stand alone bad immigration policy by a rotten Tory government who seem incapable of governing in anyone's interests other than their own and a small, exclusive group of mates. Of which Tim Wetherspoon doesn't appear to be one.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 8:32 pm Homo Dumbassiens.
Quite
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A sentiment we can all get behind.
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Willow904 wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 8:52 pm
In some ways I think it important to separate out these individual, damaging policy choices from the idea of Brexit because they aren't necessary consequences of leaving the EU at all
But if all of the policy choices by this govt that 'the people' voted for are damaging, and predictably so, it amounts to the same thing.

Any/all good choices lead straight back to Brexit being a really, really bad idea because we don't have a seat at the table now. Although I'd take that in a heartbeat.
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Willow904 wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 8:52 pmAm I right in thinking he'll now need to pay his staff £35,000 a year to match their previous right to settle which workers from the EU had before Brexit?
Yes. Unless he can persuade the government to add bar staff to the shortage occupation list which would be quite amusing. That's if they want to settle of course. If they simply want to work here for a while on a visa then the required wage depends upon the job, but the problem Tim has with that is the job has to be classed as skilled. So bar manager = Yes/maybe, bar staff = No. At present no unskilled visas are being offered besides a few very temporary ones for agricultural workers.

Of course he always has the option of paying more than the poverty wages he currently offers to attract staff, but given he's moaned and whinged about every single minimum wage rise that seems unlikely.
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gilsey wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 9:39 pmA sentiment we can all get behind.
The problem with boycotting all Wetherspoons is there are a lot of pubs that would have closed, or grand old buildings that would have been left to rot, that Wetherspoons have saved. Tim Martin might be an absolute arse of the first order but not everything his company does is bad and not everyone who drinks in his pubs agrees with the shit he comes out with. In this Remain stronghold the Brexit leaflets he littered his pubs with were often covered in highly amusing graffiti, mostly involving adding male genitalia to pictures of his idiot, grinning face. Eventually the staff, mostly students, refused to put them out and they went in the bin. If I boycott that Wetherspoons then the only other pub nearby is a Sam Smith's, owned by Humphrey Smith who is an absolute lunatic and even bigger wanker than Tim Martin.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 52461.html

The staff live in fear of rumours that he sends 'secret drinkers' to his pubs to report back if they hear any swearing or see a mobile phone out.

Other than those two it's bars where I'm paying £4.50 a pint or, as happened on Sunday, £6.50 for a glass of wine, and they're more often than not loud and crowded. In a lot of places it's expensive to avoid the Spoons, or Sam Smith's, and go out for a drink.

Perhaps instead of boycotting Tim's establishments some other kind of protest could be devised whereby drinkers of meagre means could still drink there but also salve their consciences somehow.
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Fair point.
Easy to say when the nearest 'Spoons is 15 miles away.
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gilsey wrote: Wed 02 Jun, 2021 10:47 pm Fair point.
Easy to say when the nearest 'Spoons is 15 miles away.
That's quite a walk for breakfast.
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No side effects now besides a bit of an ache in my arm.

I asked the obligingly pleasant doctor why it didn't hurt when blood tests can be quite painful. Was it the size of the needle?

No, she said, a good trained nurse administering a blood test will stick the needle just below your vein, because long ago it was decided in the NHS that a bit of pain was better for the public than blood spurting out.
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All of you watch this if you know what's good for you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... dary-tapes
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