Saturday 9th & Sunday 10th March 2024
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Saturday 9th & Sunday 10th March 2024
Morning all.
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Mr Parris on benefit scroungers Friday Times --
https://archive.is/RN1r9
Furthermore, some of Parris's pseudo-MH culprits are almost certainly in the officially undiagnosed Long Covid cohort . Feeling permanently tired with multiple physical symptoms is to put it mildly not good for MH . Surprise !
It's no secret that some conditions were historically dismissed as psychological , EX 'hysteria' for women, until med research advanced and a measurable physical marker was identified. Even now many docs are ignorant ...
One example from the relative handful of labs worldwide that do very advanced investigations that apparently even some other colleagues hadn't heard of --
Resia Pretorius at Stellenbosch and David Putrino at Mount Sinai are two of the profs who actually listen to and work with LC groups .
https://archive.is/RN1r9
Furthermore, some of Parris's pseudo-MH culprits are almost certainly in the officially undiagnosed Long Covid cohort . Feeling permanently tired with multiple physical symptoms is to put it mildly not good for MH . Surprise !
It's no secret that some conditions were historically dismissed as psychological , EX 'hysteria' for women, until med research advanced and a measurable physical marker was identified. Even now many docs are ignorant ...
One example from the relative handful of labs worldwide that do very advanced investigations that apparently even some other colleagues hadn't heard of --
Resia Pretorius at Stellenbosch and David Putrino at Mount Sinai are two of the profs who actually listen to and work with LC groups .
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Excellent factchecking of the official GOP response to Biden's SOTU Speech .... but WHY dd it apparently take so long for someone to do it ?
( I say apparently because perhaps others did ! )
( I say apparently because perhaps others did ! )
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I saw that particular fib called out almost straight away tbf.
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Did you see the calling-out widely publicised ?AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sat 09 Mar, 2024 11:57 am I saw that particular fib called out almost straight away tbf.
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This is pretty relentless at the moment, last week the most viewed article in the Spectator was some clown claiming nearly all mental health conditions are non-existent, and there's been more in The Times alongside this garbage from Parris. All written by right wing journalists with zero expertise in either mental health or the benefits system. It's obvious why it's happening and it's obvious that it's coordinated. I wouldn't be too fussed knowing the Tories are on their way out, but I fear this nonsense will find many a willing ear in the Labour Party.
He even has the temerity to whinge about the fact that the last time he fanned these flames with his ignorance it made him unpopular.
He even has the temerity to whinge about the fact that the last time he fanned these flames with his ignorance it made him unpopular.
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Thanks for posting a link to Parris' latest obnoxious scrawling Froggy. I hadn't actually read the whole thing.
Unbelievably he's still going on about PIP which is hellishly difficult to claim for mental health reasons (I wouldn't stand a chance) so has little to no bearing on his pig ignorant scepticism about mental health issues as a whole. This was explained to him last time and he's paid not a jot of attention and just burbled the same shit out again.
What an obtuse, arrogant prick.
Unbelievably he's still going on about PIP which is hellishly difficult to claim for mental health reasons (I wouldn't stand a chance) so has little to no bearing on his pig ignorant scepticism about mental health issues as a whole. This was explained to him last time and he's paid not a jot of attention and just burbled the same shit out again.
What an obtuse, arrogant prick.
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Before too long, a lot of the boomers who lap up all this crap are going to be dead - what then?
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I don't think it's just boomers who are open to this kind of shit, as we've seen with Covid deniers and anti-vaxxers being a drooling moron isn't an age related condition.
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Sure, but it is definitely more prevalent amongst them - plus they are about the only group who still actually reads newspapers.
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Hang on AK, I'm from 1947, give me a break !AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sat 09 Mar, 2024 7:23 pm Before too long, a lot of the boomers who lap up all this crap are going to be dead - what then?
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I'm almost one myself (born 1966) though I think anyone with a birthdate after c1960 has some Gen X characteristics.
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I'm sure I've agreed with Parris in the past
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This was on the same 'archive' page
https://archive.is/RN1r9
Double efforts in Ukraine but be ready to deal
Two years since Russia’s invasion, the war is at a stalemate but allies must not waver in supporting this fight against evil
Matthew Parris Friday February 23 2024, 9.00pm GMT, The Times
One of Ukraine's major weaknesses is that they too are a democracy . It's taken far too long to work out how to increase army manpower and they are not there yet !
Putler has it so easy !
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This was on the same 'archive' page
https://archive.is/RN1r9
Double efforts in Ukraine but be ready to deal
Two years since Russia’s invasion, the war is at a stalemate but allies must not waver in supporting this fight against evil
Matthew Parris Friday February 23 2024, 9.00pm GMT, The Times
Western guarantees have a sordid history, when OUR wankbucket weak democracies are at the mercy of the likes of the next Lettuce-life Liz Truss and the US's gameshow TV host ...." It is possible simultaneously to hold in the mind two thoughts that are only superficially ill-matched. First, a redoubling of support in funds and materiel. Second, a signal that in due course Ukraine will be ready for a deal. Some I met there already want this. Others would be sorry to see it. Few any longer see it as preposterous.
I’m entirely unqualified to set out the sums and the weaponry required, or the terms of any final deal, though copper-bottomed western guarantees would have to accompany it. But this much I can say: Moscow must be persuaded that even if the US cuts support, Europe is willing to take up the slack, even doubling our contribution. We British have spent about £200 per head on these past two years of war in Ukraine. That’s less than what we give Northern Ireland every year.
I don’t like the word “evil” and have rarely used it in a newspaper column. But talking to frightened young people in Ukraine I could not but feel, hanging in the freezing winter fog, a threat for which I know no other word. If confronting this is not worth a couple of hundred quid from each of us, then what price the liberty we take for granted?
One of Ukraine's major weaknesses is that they too are a democracy . It's taken far too long to work out how to increase army manpower and they are not there yet !
Putler has it so easy !
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Parking this from Anastasiya .
NOTING the nonstop shockhorror over ethnic cleansing and murder in Gaza and the WB, together with virtual silence on virtually exactly the same things in the Ukrainian occupied Territoires, I haven't yet worked out my reply .
It will be something along the lines that RU's longtime classic techniques have managed to engineer both our Far Left and Far Right in Putin's favour !
NOTING the nonstop shockhorror over ethnic cleansing and murder in Gaza and the WB, together with virtual silence on virtually exactly the same things in the Ukrainian occupied Territoires, I haven't yet worked out my reply .
It will be something along the lines that RU's longtime classic techniques have managed to engineer both our Far Left and Far Right in Putin's favour !
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Entertaining and informative discussion on the Nature of the Beast
By now I've watched a few hundred of Jonathan's daily interviews , mostly with Ukrainians, many of them original RU-speakers from the occupied Eastern oblasts and Crimea.
( So much for Putin's propaganda that RU-speakers were being persecuted ....)
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By now I've watched a few hundred of Jonathan's daily interviews , mostly with Ukrainians, many of them original RU-speakers from the occupied Eastern oblasts and Crimea.
( So much for Putin's propaganda that RU-speakers were being persecuted ....)
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Anyone about today?
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Huge Furry-Whippingstool nails it.
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Though today was the first time I heard Reeves confirm there will be a pretty much immediate cash injection into public services if Labour wins.
A fairly small thing in itself, and a massively obvious one, but still. It maybe shows she does live in the real world just a bit.
A fairly small thing in itself, and a massively obvious one, but still. It maybe shows she does live in the real world just a bit.
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Leaving Las Vegas
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/
Based on a novel by an alcoholic author who committed suicide a fortnight after learning the book was going to be made into a film this was never going to be a barrel of laughs. I've avoided it for years because of its reputation for being utterly depressing and it turns out it's a reputation well earned.
Nicholas Cage plays an alcoholic who loses his job after his wife has left him taking their son with her. With his redundancy payment he decides to go to Las Vegas and drink himself to death and while there meets a prostitute who falls for him and takes him in.
While this is a Cage film, one of the problems with it is he decides to burn everything from his old life before he leaves so we know essentially nothing about his previous life before the events of the film take place. This renders him a blank slate, a pitiful suicidal drunk who it's hard to have any sympathy with because we know nothing about him other than that he drinks. As a result while Cage's performance is good (this is back in the day when he was still regarded as a serious actor), his character is completely one dimensional making him almost entirely uninteresting.
Fortunately Elisabeth Shue as the prostitute is absolutely superb and completely carries the film, in fact I'd say it's more about her than it is about him. When she first makes an appearance she's working for a Latvian pimp, played by the sadly departed Julian Sands with a dodgy Russian accent, but once he's out of the way she takes Cage in despite knowing exactly what he's trying to do. There's no romance for her, not even sex, just fucked up companionship, someone to care for and be there for her when she gets back from work. She's using him as much as he's using her. It's a wonderful performance.
So this is a tough one to score on the Cageometer. On the one hand it's a flawed but well crafted film, while on the other despite Cage being the central character he's almost incidental, and then there's the fact it's horribly depressing.
I'm going to give it a 4/5.
I've given it an extra point for making me think I don't drink too much if that's what being an alcoholic looks like.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/
Based on a novel by an alcoholic author who committed suicide a fortnight after learning the book was going to be made into a film this was never going to be a barrel of laughs. I've avoided it for years because of its reputation for being utterly depressing and it turns out it's a reputation well earned.
Nicholas Cage plays an alcoholic who loses his job after his wife has left him taking their son with her. With his redundancy payment he decides to go to Las Vegas and drink himself to death and while there meets a prostitute who falls for him and takes him in.
While this is a Cage film, one of the problems with it is he decides to burn everything from his old life before he leaves so we know essentially nothing about his previous life before the events of the film take place. This renders him a blank slate, a pitiful suicidal drunk who it's hard to have any sympathy with because we know nothing about him other than that he drinks. As a result while Cage's performance is good (this is back in the day when he was still regarded as a serious actor), his character is completely one dimensional making him almost entirely uninteresting.
Fortunately Elisabeth Shue as the prostitute is absolutely superb and completely carries the film, in fact I'd say it's more about her than it is about him. When she first makes an appearance she's working for a Latvian pimp, played by the sadly departed Julian Sands with a dodgy Russian accent, but once he's out of the way she takes Cage in despite knowing exactly what he's trying to do. There's no romance for her, not even sex, just fucked up companionship, someone to care for and be there for her when she gets back from work. She's using him as much as he's using her. It's a wonderful performance.
So this is a tough one to score on the Cageometer. On the one hand it's a flawed but well crafted film, while on the other despite Cage being the central character he's almost incidental, and then there's the fact it's horribly depressing.
I'm going to give it a 4/5.
I've given it an extra point for making me think I don't drink too much if that's what being an alcoholic looks like.
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Anyway......are *you* a Kate Middleton pic troofer?
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It's kind of insane, when you see these two things juxtaposed against each other
https://twitter.com/Palestine001_/statu ... 4628454506 And remember, Lipman ended her support of Labour, when Miliband (also a Jew) supported recognising Palestine as a state.
https://twitter.com/Palestine001_/statu ... 4628454506 And remember, Lipman ended her support of Labour, when Miliband (also a Jew) supported recognising Palestine as a state.
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More than that, she announced she no longer supported Labour on at least three separate occasions. Impressive stuff.
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That depends, is she showing boob?AnatolyKasparov wrote: ↑Sun 10 Mar, 2024 11:33 pm Anyway......are *you* a Kate Middleton pic troofer?
I've no idea what your talking about.
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