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Spacedone wrote:Whatever you do don't look at the front page of The Sun today. There are some sights you just don't want to see...![]()
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Oh... morning!
However, George Osborne’s announcements haven’t done many favours for this nation’s young people. Don’t get me wrong: he’s taken tax returns digital and lowered the duty on a pint of beer. No complaints. But contrary to popular belief, not all young voters sit around playing on their smartphones slurping lager all day.
What about living wages and affordable rents? What about wealth inequality and unfair benefits caps? It’s no wonder one in eight twenty-somethings have already decided not to vote in May – myself included.
Not that I would have looked anyway, but I had taken heed of your warning, Spacedone. Having said that I've just seen Osborne on BBC News and it was shown. Bloody hell! Regarding the ad it's taken from, it's just wrong, just plain wrong as I would put it.Spacedone wrote:Whatever you do don't look at the front page of The Sun today. There are some sights you just don't want to see...![]()
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
'Toxic smog from the Continent set to shroud Britain'
Yes, thought that was amusing. Given that Naughtie was overall very gently interviewing Osborne I thought Osborne sounded rather shaky. Revising once again how you measure a deficit is the typical sophistry we've come to expect under the gruesome twosome.refitman wrote:Tee-hee. James Naughtie just called Osborne a "moral failure", using Cameron's words.
I think Naughtie was going for 'iron fist in velvet glove'. He did manage to get some good jibes - the moral failure and also about not committing to defence spending of 2%.StephenDolan wrote:Yes, thought that was amusing. Given that Naughtie was overall very gently interviewing Osborne I thought Osborne sounded rather shaky. Revising once again how you measure a deficit is the typical sophistry we've come to expect under the gruesome twosome.refitman wrote:Tee-hee. James Naughtie just called Osborne a "moral failure", using Cameron's words.
The odd choice word left my mouth as Naughtie let Osborne witter on.
One final comment, James Landale is a complete and utter prick.
Iain Duncan Smith's benefits cap breaches children's right, judges rule
In a word, no. Depending on the area, you'll know what the perceived issues are, but apart from that, the only thing we're asked to do is to find out who they're actually going to vote for, and how they voted last time, and that's it. I ask people if there's anything that we can do on their behalf and try to get an understanding of what concerns them. Sometimes they'll give you something to follow up, sometimes not. I don't go all party political on them as I feel that doesn't work. Even Tory/UKIP voters seem to appreciate being asked and most have never had a politician or party representative knock on before, whilst Labour voters just seem happy to chew the fat and chat to you. Nothing complicated.utopiandreams wrote:Morning all. Believe it or not I have very little to say about yesterday's budget. I may be drawn but needless to say am unimpressed.
One of the things I've found interesting on visits to this site has been the accounts of doorstep canvassing. RebaccaRiots (isn't it?) and ErnstRemarx' contributions too. To give it a bit of context the reason I ask is that a very long time ago I used to do a bit of doorstep canvassing myself. Some of you may consider it spivvery, especially as the markup of our product initially seemed excessive and hooked people into somewhat high small loan interest rates (credit broker's licence required with very little checks, back then anyway) plus we employed others on a commission only basis. On the latter score it was in nobody's interest if they couldn't hack it, so they either left after a couple of days or stayed on with a reasonably lucrative income.
There was however some moral purpose behind it, what we sold was first aid and fire safety equipment both directly to to shops, pubs, etc. and through weekly finance arrangements to what were largely council estates supplied with don't serve lists by local offices of the likes of Shopacheck and Practical Finance. As an aside often the most lucrative areas selling directly to business were in areas with a high prevalence of Asian shops. You'd go through your demonstration of fire equipment with almost nil response then you'd crack it. Having made a sale you'd often get asked to wait, a son or daughter of the proprietors would then nip out and before you knew it some of those you'd previously visited and others would be queuing up asking you to re(visit) their premises and sign them up (with no further sales pitches).
I digress, as far as householders were concerned you'd be surprised at how many there were with young children who didn't have adequate safeguards. The high markup wasn't excessive when you add in the packaging, travel and commission costs, not to mention the finance company markup and attrition rate, i.e number of returns. The commission paid had been covered by the deposit but tey couldn't be repackaged in case of contamination or even deliberate sabotage. True there was a greater markup for cash sales with no risk, but we also paid the canvasser substantially more.
Anyway after such a long preamble, my question. Do you have a scripted patter? We all get fed up of the memorable hooks or soundbites that are constantly repeated by politicians. It is understandable from a marketing point of view but overused when we hear them repeated time and time again. Such patter is usually carefully worded to elicit agreement at every stage. The trick is delivering it in as little a rehearsed manner as is possible. Yep, I've also sold Unit Trusts in between jobs and have been taught all the hard sell techniques in the book. Even that was a worthy product though, as is typical with finance groups, the commission was outlandish. So to repeat the question, is each conversation completely unique or do you have a rehearsed patter that you endeavour to return to? Just asking.
Edit: inserted safety into fire equipment plus a typo.
Spacedone wrote:Here's an article in the Independent that's the equivalent of a toddler threatening to hold their breath until they get what they want. Nobody ever got what they wanted from a political party by making themselves an invisible non-voter.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 17203.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
However, George Osborne’s announcements haven’t done many favours for this nation’s young people. Don’t get me wrong: he’s taken tax returns digital and lowered the duty on a pint of beer. No complaints. But contrary to popular belief, not all young voters sit around playing on their smartphones slurping lager all day.
What about living wages and affordable rents? What about wealth inequality and unfair benefits caps? It’s no wonder one in eight twenty-somethings have already decided not to vote in May – myself included.
IMHO that is quite an odd question to be 'just asking' (and it is just my humble opinion - here in Hope, I'm not affiliated to political party....I do tend to get involved in a lot of conversations about politics however, and surprise a lot of people with my declaration of being an adherent of Marxism (the response of 'that doesn't apply to now' could be almost 'scripted', it is so prevalent) and then a strong supporter of Mr Ed - causes consternation with the 'they'reallthesame-ers' as well as Ukippers and Tories (no Lost Deposit seen around these parts for many a long year (well, 5 years, anyway)) and I say again, I am not now and have never been a member of the Labour Party and have never voted Labour in my life...which will change in May (and, to be fair, Mr Ed has had me very close to joining the Party))...FFS Wolfie - enough with the parentheses - get on with it you m*****tutopiandreams wrote:Morning all. Believe it or not I have very little to say about yesterday's budget. I may be drawn but needless to say am unimpressed.
One of the things I've found interesting on visits to this site has been the accounts of doorstep canvassing. RebaccaRiots (isn't it?) and ErnstRemarx' contributions too. To give it a bit of context the reason I ask is that a very long time ago I used to do a bit of doorstep canvassing myself. Some of you may consider it spivvery, especially as the markup of our product initially seemed excessive and hooked people into somewhat high small loan interest rates (credit broker's licence required with very little checks, back then anyway) plus we employed others on a commission only basis. On the latter score it was in nobody's interest if they couldn't hack it, so they either left after a couple of days or stayed on with a reasonably lucrative income.
There was however some moral purpose behind it, what we sold was first aid and fire safety equipment both directly to to shops, pubs, etc. and through weekly finance arrangements to what were largely council estates supplied with don't serve lists by local offices of the likes of Shopacheck and Practical Finance. As an aside often the most lucrative areas selling directly to business were in areas with a high prevalence of Asian shops. You'd go through your demonstration of fire equipment with almost nil response then you'd crack it. Having made a sale you'd often get asked to wait, a son or daughter of the proprietors would then nip out and before you knew it some of those you'd previously visited and others would be queuing up asking you to re(visit) their premises and sign them up (with no further sales pitches).
I digress, as far as householders were concerned you'd be surprised at how many there were with young children who didn't have adequate safeguards. The high markup wasn't excessive when you add in the packaging, travel and commission costs, not to mention the finance company markup and attrition rate, i.e number of returns. The commission paid had been covered by the deposit but tey couldn't be repackaged in case of contamination or even deliberate sabotage. True there was a greater markup for cash sales with no risk, but we also paid the canvasser substantially more.
Anyway after such a long preamble, my question. Do you have a scripted patter? We all get fed up of the memorable hooks or soundbites that are constantly repeated by politicians. It is understandable from a marketing point of view but overused when we hear them repeated time and time again. Such patter is usually carefully worded to elicit agreement at every stage. The trick is delivering it in as little a rehearsed manner as is possible. Yep, I've also sold Unit Trusts in between jobs and have been taught all the hard sell techniques in the book. Even that was a worthy product though, as is typical with finance groups, the commission was outlandish. So to repeat the question, is each conversation completely unique or do you have a rehearsed patter that you endeavour to return to? Just asking.
Edit: inserted safety into fire equipment plus a typo.
Halleluiah.danesclose wrote:Morning all. The residents of West Wirral are holding a "sack Esther McVey" march today
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... mp-8871329" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yeah don't worry you make perfect sense. As for just asking, the main reason being the manner in which politicians keep repeating their message and not that I once did door-to door canvassing as I'd put it, albeit that was one of the things that raised the question. Nevertheless I think there is some similarity between sales and putting a message across. I don't wish to get into any arguments so please appreciate that I mean this in the most kiindly way but also hate using emoticons. I may be familiar with hard-sell techniques, which I can see from a country mile, but I absolutely hate them. Much better building relationships where all parties have mutual benefits.Lonewolfie wrote:IMHO that is quite an odd question to be 'just asking' (and it is just my humble opinion - here in Hope, I'm not affiliated to political party....I do tend to get involved in a lot of conversations about politics however, and surprise a lot of people with my declaration of being an adherent of Marxism (the response of 'that doesn't apply to now' could be almost 'scripted', it is so prevalent) and then a strong supporter of Mr Ed - causes consternation with the 'they'reallthesame-ers' as well as Ukippers and Tories (no Lost Deposit seen around these parts for many a long year (well, 5 years, anyway)) and I say again, I am not now and have never been a member of the Labour Party and have never voted Labour in my life...which will change in May (and, to be fair, Mr Ed has had me very close to joining the Party))...FFS Wolfie - enough with the parentheses - get on with it you m*****tutopiandreams wrote:Morning all. Believe it or not I have very little to say about yesterday's budget. I may be drawn but needless to say am unimpressed.
One of the things I've found interesting on visits to this site has been the accounts of doorstep canvassing. RebaccaRiots (isn't it?) and ErnstRemarx' contributions too. To give it a bit of context the reason I ask is that a very long time ago I used to do a bit of doorstep canvassing myself. Some of you may consider it spivvery, especially as the markup of our product initially seemed excessive and hooked people into somewhat high small loan interest rates (credit broker's licence required with very little checks, back then anyway) plus we employed others on a commission only basis. On the latter score it was in nobody's interest if they couldn't hack it, so they either left after a couple of days or stayed on with a reasonably lucrative income.
There was however some moral purpose behind it, what we sold was first aid and fire safety equipment both directly to to shops, pubs, etc. and through weekly finance arrangements to what were largely council estates supplied with don't serve lists by local offices of the likes of Shopacheck and Practical Finance. As an aside often the most lucrative areas selling directly to business were in areas with a high prevalence of Asian shops. You'd go through your demonstration of fire equipment with almost nil response then you'd crack it. Having made a sale you'd often get asked to wait, a son or daughter of the proprietors would then nip out and before you knew it some of those you'd previously visited and others would be queuing up asking you to re(visit) their premises and sign them up (with no further sales pitches).
I digress, as far as householders were concerned you'd be surprised at how many there were with young children who didn't have adequate safeguards. The high markup wasn't excessive when you add in the packaging, travel and commission costs, not to mention the finance company markup and attrition rate, i.e number of returns. The commission paid had been covered by the deposit but tey couldn't be repackaged in case of contamination or even deliberate sabotage. True there was a greater markup for cash sales with no risk, but we also paid the canvasser substantially more.
Anyway after such a long preamble, my question. Do you have a scripted patter? We all get fed up of the memorable hooks or soundbites that are constantly repeated by politicians. It is understandable from a marketing point of view but overused when we hear them repeated time and time again. Such patter is usually carefully worded to elicit agreement at every stage. The trick is delivering it in as little a rehearsed manner as is possible. Yep, I've also sold Unit Trusts in between jobs and have been taught all the hard sell techniques in the book. Even that was a worthy product though, as is typical with finance groups, the commission was outlandish. So to repeat the question, is each conversation completely unique or do you have a rehearsed patter that you endeavour to return to? Just asking.
Edit: inserted safety into fire equipment plus a typo.![]()
The difference between learning (and repeating) a script to secure a sale and discussing political policy is interplanetary - that is to say, I see no connection or similarity, other than you're generally talking to people you've never spoken to before.
My political beliefs and passion for social justice are inate (I believe(TM)) so are spoken from the heart from a background of knowledge and understanding. To sell, using a script or not, is effectively being a mouthpiece for whoever/whatever you are selling for (unless you have invented the product yourself, in which case you would know and care enough about it to speak confidently without the need for a script) - scripts are used to ensure that there is no deviation from the accepted line, you are told the facts you need and no more...and you are not really expected to have any understanding of the product outside the 'script'. It is possible with a silver tongue and a personable nature (people buy people, not products) to be successful doorstep selling/cold calling, but as you point out, the attrition rate (of poor souls just looking for some way of getting access to some sort of cash) is huge, with very few actually making a living long term.
By way of explanation of my experience, I left HM Forces in the mid-80s, no qualifications but a lot of confidence, a quick(ish) mind and a somewhat silver tongue...so I made quite a comfortable living (for a couple of years, until the family arrived) selling financial products on commission only (which I tried to do without mis-selling, and trained my teams in the same manner - 'it is possible to make money in this business without lying' (ref: Pensions mis-selling, late '80s)). I've remained on the sales side of business, although what I do now is far more rewarding (supplying access products for disability inclusion) and most definitely has no script.
So...having waffled on and probably missed the point completely, I'll stop....but I'll press 'submit' anyway, in the hope that it might make a bit of sense![]()
...and moreveaftingtinoon all...
NocitizenJA wrote:Good-morning people.
Anyone else getting two posts showing up on the thread?
And still noPaulfromYorkshire wrote:NocitizenJA wrote:Good-morning people.
Anyone else getting two posts showing up on the thread?
I like your style, PaulfromYorkshire.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:And still noPaulfromYorkshire wrote:NocitizenJA wrote:Good-morning people.
Anyone else getting two posts showing up on the thread?
It's hard to stop this.
citizenJA wrote:Halleluiah.danesclose wrote:Morning all. The residents of West Wirral are holding a "sack Esther McVey" march today
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... mp-8871329" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's a drift?PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
@ citizenJA
Hello. In answer to your question: no, I'm not experiencing any problems today. Although, since this is my first post of the day, perhaps I'm not yet in the best position to pontificate if your problem is related to things that you have posted. If you get my drift.
I agree with what you and others have said, but regarding Hancock I'd believe his first name was Hector if I didn't know otherwise. Did anyone else see him yesterday on... oh I've forgotten which programme it was.ephemerid wrote:...
Cameron has promoted men too in the same way - look at that eejit Hancock.
The man's a moron, and another one promoted way too early.
...
Thank you - I was really trying to avoid sounding 'snarky' as that is most definitely not how it was meant (and I've also been trying to wean myself off the emoticons - I know they wind some people up, but sometimes it's difficult to write clearly without the possibility for misinterpretation)utopiandreams wrote:Yeah don't worry you make perfect sense. As for just asking, the main reason being the manner in which politicians keep repeating their message and not that I once did door-to door canvassing as I'd put it, albeit that was one of the things that raised the question. Nevertheless I think there is some similarity between sales and putting a message across. I don't wish to get into any arguments so please appreciate that I mean this in the most kiindly way but also hate emoticons. I may be familiar with hard-sell techniques, which I can see from a country mile, but I absolutely hate them. Much better building relationships where all parties have mutual benefits.Lonewolfie wrote:IMHO that is quite an odd question to be 'just asking' (and it is just my humble opinion - here in Hope, I'm not affiliated to political party....I do tend to get involved in a lot of conversations about politics however, and surprise a lot of people with my declaration of being an adherent of Marxism (the response of 'that doesn't apply to now' could be almost 'scripted', it is so prevalent) and then a strong supporter of Mr Ed - causes consternation with the 'they'reallthesame-ers' as well as Ukippers and Tories (no Lost Deposit seen around these parts for many a long year (well, 5 years, anyway)) and I say again, I am not now and have never been a member of the Labour Party and have never voted Labour in my life...which will change in May (and, to be fair, Mr Ed has had me very close to joining the Party))...FFS Wolfie - enough with the parentheses - get on with it you m*****tutopiandreams wrote:Morning all. Believe it or not I have very little to say about yesterday's budget. I may be drawn but needless to say am unimpressed.
One of the things I've found interesting on visits to this site has been the accounts of doorstep canvassing. RebaccaRiots (isn't it?) and ErnstRemarx' contributions too. To give it a bit of context the reason I ask is that a very long time ago I used to do a bit of doorstep canvassing myself. Some of you may consider it spivvery, especially as the markup of our product initially seemed excessive and hooked people into somewhat high small loan interest rates (credit broker's licence required with very little checks, back then anyway) plus we employed others on a commission only basis. On the latter score it was in nobody's interest if they couldn't hack it, so they either left after a couple of days or stayed on with a reasonably lucrative income.
There was however some moral purpose behind it, what we sold was first aid and fire safety equipment both directly to to shops, pubs, etc. and through weekly finance arrangements to what were largely council estates supplied with don't serve lists by local offices of the likes of Shopacheck and Practical Finance. As an aside often the most lucrative areas selling directly to business were in areas with a high prevalence of Asian shops. You'd go through your demonstration of fire equipment with almost nil response then you'd crack it. Having made a sale you'd often get asked to wait, a son or daughter of the proprietors would then nip out and before you knew it some of those you'd previously visited and others would be queuing up asking you to re(visit) their premises and sign them up (with no further sales pitches).
I digress, as far as householders were concerned you'd be surprised at how many there were with young children who didn't have adequate safeguards. The high markup wasn't excessive when you add in the packaging, travel and commission costs, not to mention the finance company markup and attrition rate, i.e number of returns. The commission paid had been covered by the deposit but tey couldn't be repackaged in case of contamination or even deliberate sabotage. True there was a greater markup for cash sales with no risk, but we also paid the canvasser substantially more.
Anyway after such a long preamble, my question. Do you have a scripted patter? We all get fed up of the memorable hooks or soundbites that are constantly repeated by politicians. It is understandable from a marketing point of view but overused when we hear them repeated time and time again. Such patter is usually carefully worded to elicit agreement at every stage. The trick is delivering it in as little a rehearsed manner as is possible. Yep, I've also sold Unit Trusts in between jobs and have been taught all the hard sell techniques in the book. Even that was a worthy product though, as is typical with finance groups, the commission was outlandish. So to repeat the question, is each conversation completely unique or do you have a rehearsed patter that you endeavour to return to? Just asking.
Edit: inserted safety into fire equipment plus a typo.![]()
The difference between learning (and repeating) a script to secure a sale and discussing political policy is interplanetary - that is to say, I see no connection or similarity, other than you're generally talking to people you've never spoken to before.
My political beliefs and passion for social justice are inate (I believe(TM)) so are spoken from the heart from a background of knowledge and understanding. To sell, using a script or not, is effectively being a mouthpiece for whoever/whatever you are selling for (unless you have invented the product yourself, in which case you would know and care enough about it to speak confidently without the need for a script) - scripts are used to ensure that there is no deviation from the accepted line, you are told the facts you need and no more...and you are not really expected to have any understanding of the product outside the 'script'. It is possible with a silver tongue and a personable nature (people buy people, not products) to be successful doorstep selling/cold calling, but as you point out, the attrition rate (of poor souls just looking for some way of getting access to some sort of cash) is huge, with very few actually making a living long term.
By way of explanation of my experience, I left HM Forces in the mid-80s, no qualifications but a lot of confidence, a quick(ish) mind and a somewhat silver tongue...so I made quite a comfortable living (for a couple of years, until the family arrived) selling financial products on commission only (which I tried to do without mis-selling, and trained my teams in the same manner - 'it is possible to make money in this business without lying' (ref: Pensions mis-selling, late '80s)). I've remained on the sales side of business, although what I do now is far more rewarding (supplying access products for disability inclusion) and most definitely has no script.
So...having waffled on and probably missed the point completely, I'll stop....but I'll press 'submit' anyway, in the hope that it might make a bit of sense![]()
...and moreveaftingtinoon all...
citizenJA wrote:Yeah, Hero, not voting will sure show Osborne!Spacedone wrote:Here's an article in the Independent that's the equivalent of a toddler threatening to hold their breath until they get what they want. Nobody ever got what they wanted from a political party by making themselves an invisible non-voter.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 17203.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
However, George Osborne’s announcements haven’t done many favours for this nation’s young people. Don’t get me wrong: he’s taken tax returns digital and lowered the duty on a pint of beer. No complaints. But contrary to popular belief, not all young voters sit around playing on their smartphones slurping lager all day.
What about living wages and affordable rents? What about wealth inequality and unfair benefits caps? It’s no wonder one in eight twenty-somethings have already decided not to vote in May – myself included.
Well done you.
Kiss your enfranchisement & democracy goodbye, Fool.
Strange that, because I thought Labour did have policies to tackle the housing crisis and youth unemployment. I think he means "until a party that isn't Labour..."4 reasons why I don't care about The Budget and won't be voting in May
Until a party promises to actually tackle the housing crisis and issues like youth unemployment, I'll be staying at home
That's Dave & his government in a nutshell, my friend. I posted something here last night trying to express this fundamental incompetence of Dave & his government. I'm angry their government receives props, a kind of legitimising support through translations provided from the BBC or the OBR. Current government are dumber than shit. And they're cruel too. It doesn't get worse than that. Forgive my profanity. I wasn't born into a family graced with wisdom, simplicity or tenderness. I continue to learn those languages I wasn't taught young.ephemerid wrote:citizenJA wrote:Halleluiah.danesclose wrote:Morning all. The residents of West Wirral are holding a "sack Esther McVey" march today
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... mp-8871329" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hallelujah indeed.
Great quote from the hectoring harpy at the end -
"I am perfectly content for the Labour Party and their union paymasters to continue their personal attacks and smears against me"
We will, Fester, we will.
Politics really doesn't need self-promoting ambitious thick-as-a-brick nonentities like McVey.
Cameron has promoted women like her way beyond their capability just to look good - people like her and Morgan are still being controlled by IDS and Gove; it's all just window-dressing but the women themselves are too daft to see it.
Worst of all is the idiot Truss - putting her in charge at DEFRA when she has neither aptitude nor interest in the job just shows how much Cameron actually cares about farming/fishing etc. and the environment.
Not so long ago, ministers didn't get promoted to that level without a few years of solid service behind them.
Cameron has promoted men too in the same way - look at that eejit Hancock.
The man's a moron, and another one promoted way too early.
Cameron gets rid of people like Dominic Grieve who was the last reasonable Tory left in a senior position - now he's surrounded by nasty nasty people and a handful of over-promoted inexperienced acolytes. Suits him just fine. Prat.
I too am impressed with Ed, Lonewolfie. He comes across as honest and with good intentions. I also noticed he has one of my traits, usually a bad thing, but in this case not so, and that is his addressing people by name. Having said that I don't particularly like it when he asks the audience to show approval for them. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it just grates, on me anyway possibly because I'd hate such acknowledgement.Lonewolfie wrote:...
One of the reasons I'm so impressed by Mr Ed has been the unwavering commitment to groundwork inside constituencies to build support - party membership is up and activists are happy to canvass (or at least willing to canvass), in direct contrast to the other parties and their approach, which seems to be 'keep Uncle Rupert (and the other MSM billionaires) happy and it'll all be OK, cos they'll win it for us....they always do.'
Not completely unrelated to my toxic smog post I would sayPorFavor wrote:Completely irrelevant to anything but I'll tell you all anyway.
I was watching the weather forecast on the BBC and the bloke presenting it said (or so I thought): "Mr Fog will be coming in from . . . ".
After shouting at the TV about the infantilising of the audience, how dare they etc, etc it dawned on me after reading the captions on the weather map that it was his diction (or my hearing) that was at fault. He had, in fact, said "Mist and fog will be coming in from . . . ".
It does go to show, though, how much I've come to expect the media to treat us like toddlers.
PorFavor wrote:Completely irrelevant to anything but I'll tell you all anyway.
I was watching the weather forecast on the BBC and the bloke presenting it said (or so I thought): "Mr Fog will be coming in from . . . ".
After shouting at the TV about the infantilising of the audience, how dare they etc, etc it dawned on me after reading the captions on the weather map that it was his diction (or my hearing) that was at fault. He had, in fact, said "Mist and fog will be coming in from . . . ".
It does go to show, though, how much I've come to expect the media to treat us like toddlers.
ephemerid wrote:After the discussion on Gidiot's appearance yesterday, Romanesque and possibly Caligula-like, I have an idea!
Cartoonist Sir Martin Rowson depicts Clegg as a continually diminishing Pinocchio puppet who has now been rendered so useless that the recent cartoons show him as a stick of wood propping something up somewhere in the fine detail of the work. Sometimes I can't find him.
I am thinking that perhaps Gidiot, whose avoirdupois is evaporating at a rate of knots, could be drawn as a body rapidly disintegrating and retreating into its' nose. I can't be the only person who has noticed that as he gets thinner his nose looks bigger.....
Of course there may be no room left inside his nose to accommodate his shrinking skeleton.
Full of snow, it is, allegedly.
I think Steve Bell is doing sterling work on Gideon's nosePorFavor wrote:ephemerid wrote:After the discussion on Gidiot's appearance yesterday, Romanesque and possibly Caligula-like, I have an idea!
Cartoonist Sir Martin Rowson depicts Clegg as a continually diminishing Pinocchio puppet who has now been rendered so useless that the recent cartoons show him as a stick of wood propping something up somewhere in the fine detail of the work. Sometimes I can't find him.
I am thinking that perhaps Gidiot, whose avoirdupois is evaporating at a rate of knots, could be drawn as a body rapidly disintegrating and retreating into its' nose. I can't be the only person who has noticed that as he gets thinner his nose looks bigger.....
Of course there may be no room left inside his nose to accommodate his shrinking skeleton.
Full of snow, it is, allegedly.
That's Mr Snow to you!
Didn't even get a national apology.mikems wrote:Five enquiries into the bogus, media/racist inspired 'Trojan Horse' episode.
Zero enquiries into the media/racist fabrications that aimed to demonise Muslims via Trojan Horse.
for example.The Academies (Land Transfer Schemes) Regulations 2012
Statutory Instruments
2012 No. 1829
Education, England
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/1829/made" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;