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Independence Debate
So, Salmond & Darling about to go head to head and this time live on UK TV
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So does replying work?
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Is replying working?
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Awesome it does
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It does if I don't use quick reply.
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No modding any more?
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No works with quick reply too nowPaulfromYorkshire wrote:It does if I don't use quick reply.
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Testing, testing!
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Testing a link now.
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Loud and clearletsskiptotheleft wrote:Testing, testing!
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Reading that my Darling is passionate and bad tempered.
What is the truth, somewhere in between?
What is the truth, somewhere in between?
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Snigger!
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Made it! Looks good
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Stay on here from now on?
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Twitter suggesting that it's much more even this time with perhaps Salmond in the lead?
But that could also be a concerted Twitter campaign. I'm spotting quite a few "concern troll" candidates
But that could also be a concerted Twitter campaign. I'm spotting quite a few "concern troll" candidates
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Maybe a bit of doubling up to make sure we don't leave people behind?ohsocynical wrote:Stay on here from now on?
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Think so....ohsocynical wrote:Stay on here from now on?
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I think Darling is getting stuffed by Salmond.
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Just emailed Porfavor with a link to this place, hopefully she gets it, should do.
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It'll be so nice to 'see' her again.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Just emailed Porfavor with a link to this place, hopefully she gets it, should do.
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Ya think?Temulkar wrote:I think Darling is getting stuffed by Salmond.
Salmond is shouting more but has no answers at all.
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Looking good over here
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Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB 21m
Main impact of #IndyRefdebate will be to reinforce views on both sides
reinforced views on both sides. pic.twitter.com/xJiVsE52Cs
Agree with Smithson on this. It was shouty, pouty stuff. Had hoped that the BBC would have done better with chairing ... obviously not.
Glad that Alistair Darling distanced himself and Labour from the bedroom tax and other abhorrent coalition policies that Salmond threw in ... but what the Better Together and Darling needed was a really impassioned positive ending statement about Scotland's future in the Union - the alternative vision.
Main impact of #IndyRefdebate will be to reinforce views on both sides
reinforced views on both sides. pic.twitter.com/xJiVsE52Cs
Agree with Smithson on this. It was shouty, pouty stuff. Had hoped that the BBC would have done better with chairing ... obviously not.
Glad that Alistair Darling distanced himself and Labour from the bedroom tax and other abhorrent coalition policies that Salmond threw in ... but what the Better Together and Darling needed was a really impassioned positive ending statement about Scotland's future in the Union - the alternative vision.
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Evening all...thought you'd sneak off without me did you?
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Indeed!
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Any way to make links open in a different tab automatically?
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As if we'd do that to you .....RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all...thought you'd sneak off without me did you?
I'm giving it a go with the 'Quote' button for this reply - see what happens.
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Tubby is still over at the old one...(Nice to see you caught us Roger )RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all...thought you'd sneak off without me did you?
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Right click / open in new tab ?diGriz wrote:Any way to make links open in a different tab automatically?
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I have no idea why the Tories seem to gleeful at Darling not performing well - no-one is going to remember these debates.
But they will remember Cameron being the PM who lost Scotland from the Union. For a Conservative and Unionist leader to lose Scotland won't play very well on his record.
But they will remember Cameron being the PM who lost Scotland from the Union. For a Conservative and Unionist leader to lose Scotland won't play very well on his record.
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Quite. And I found myself thinking on more than one occasion - 'no wonder Cameron didn't want to debate Salmond or put up a Tory spokesperson to do so for the Better Together ... the stuff on welfare reforms, food banks and coalition policies re the NHS was painful. As Mr Riots observed Darling is / was very hampered by having to fend questions targeting the most toxic Conservative / Liberal Democrat measures.RogerOThornhill wrote:I have no idea why the Tories seem to gleeful at Darling not performing well - no-one is going to remember these debates.
But they will remember Cameron being the PM who lost Scotland from the Union. For a Conservative and Unionist leader to lose Scotland won't play very well on his record.
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There is, but it's a whole 'thing'. I will sort it soon-ish.diGriz wrote:Any way to make links open in a different tab automatically?
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Nite all - catch ya all tomorrow
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Well, hello everyone - how nice to see you all here!
Good looking place isn't it? Many thanks to Dan and Paul for doing the necessary (I couldn't make it, I'm ashamed to say), and let's hope this will see FTN take to the skies, so to speak. Alter your bookmarks and tell everyone you know - this is our place now, and it's up to us to make it a success.
Huzzah!
Good looking place isn't it? Many thanks to Dan and Paul for doing the necessary (I couldn't make it, I'm ashamed to say), and let's hope this will see FTN take to the skies, so to speak. Alter your bookmarks and tell everyone you know - this is our place now, and it's up to us to make it a success.
Huzzah!
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Thanks for setting up this new forum. Loved the old one, even though I only lurked and never posted
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Get posting!NeilBB wrote:Thanks for setting up this new forum. Loved the old one, even though I only lurked and never posted
And, for once, I'm proud to be the first to plant an emoticon...!
On edit - fuck! eclipsed again...
I'll see if I can be the first to post a proper rant then.
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Still isn't working from Virgin Media.AngryAsWell wrote:Think so....ohsocynical wrote:Stay on here from now on?
Fine from EE, go figure.
Not everybody is going to be able to access this yet. We should migrate carefully. Certainly need to as a minimum post a link in the old site - and clear instructions.
But right now I am not sure everybody who was there can get here.
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Cheers, part of the charm of the old site was that feature.refitman wrote:There is, but it's a whole 'thing'. I will sort it soon-ish.diGriz wrote:Any way to make links open in a different tab automatically?
@Angry - That would have been the solution if it couldn't be sorted. I'm a speed clicker though.
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I'm having real problems with accessing this new site. Totally hit and miss - with the miss happening far more often than the hit.
So please keep open some way of us communicating with FTNers when we are unable to log in / get this site up. I guess I'm saying we will need the old site - simply to let people know when we can't get here - if for nothing else - for a while yet.
Hah - it's going to serve me right for having been one of the chief agitators for a move if I find I can't carry on posting once we have!
So please keep open some way of us communicating with FTNers when we are unable to log in / get this site up. I guess I'm saying we will need the old site - simply to let people know when we can't get here - if for nothing else - for a while yet.
Hah - it's going to serve me right for having been one of the chief agitators for a move if I find I can't carry on posting once we have!
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Hello, TE thinks that some of the tables that let the internet know what's where may not have updated yet. I have unlocked The Daily Politics and the weekend thread at the old place, so people can still post there. Hopefully everyone will have access over the next couple of days.rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm having real problems with accessing this new site. Totally hit and miss - with the miss happening far more often than the hit.
So please keep open some way of us communicating with FTNers when we are unable to log in / get this site up. I guess I'm saying we will need the old site - simply to let people know when we can't get here - if for nothing else - for a while yet.
Hah - it's going to serve me right for having been one of the chief agitators for a move if I find I can't carry on posting once we have!
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Ohh, so we're all here now eh?
Hmm, Looks okay, but why is it Tory blue? Some of the emoticons appear to be missing, and I know that it's not the most important thing, but what's the deal with only being able to upload an avatar that's only a 6 KiB (whatever that means in English)? I like to change mine often (I get bored, and it's probably the only thing that you lot find interesting about my posts).
This next bit is entirely anecdotal so not to be taken as any indication, but I've just come back from my hols, which happened to be in Scotland this year, and as far as I could see the 'yes' posters were far more in evidence than the 'no' ones. They were bigger too, the no campaign seem to have settled for A5 as far as I could see. Also, it was sunny in Scotland, but once I hit England, or more specifically Yorkshire, it was miserable. Fog, rain, all grey and damp. What's with that!
Are we staying here now? Does this site do the same things as the old one? Work the same way?
Hmm, Looks okay, but why is it Tory blue? Some of the emoticons appear to be missing, and I know that it's not the most important thing, but what's the deal with only being able to upload an avatar that's only a 6 KiB (whatever that means in English)? I like to change mine often (I get bored, and it's probably the only thing that you lot find interesting about my posts).
This next bit is entirely anecdotal so not to be taken as any indication, but I've just come back from my hols, which happened to be in Scotland this year, and as far as I could see the 'yes' posters were far more in evidence than the 'no' ones. They were bigger too, the no campaign seem to have settled for A5 as far as I could see. Also, it was sunny in Scotland, but once I hit England, or more specifically Yorkshire, it was miserable. Fog, rain, all grey and damp. What's with that!
Are we staying here now? Does this site do the same things as the old one? Work the same way?
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Can I suggest we don't move yet and we run the daily politics at the other place until access is more stable. Hopefully a couple of days at most.
Then put up a DP thread at the old site with the link to this site. Which by the way is brilliant.
If VM doesn't settle down in the next day or so I will shout at them.
Then put up a DP thread at the old site with the link to this site. Which by the way is brilliant.
If VM doesn't settle down in the next day or so I will shout at them.
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Hello daydreamer.daydreamer wrote:Ohh, so we're all here now eh?
Hmm, Looks okay, but why is it Tory blue? Some of the emoticons appear to be missing, and I know that it's not the most important thing, but what's the deal with only being able to upload an avatar that's only a 6 KiB (whatever that means in English)? I like to change mine often (I get bored, and it's probably the only thing that you lot find interesting about my posts).
This next bit is entirely anecdotal so not to be taken as any indication, but I've just come back from my hols, which happened to be in Scotland this year, and as far as I could see the 'yes' posters were far more in evidence than the 'no' ones. They were bigger too, the no campaign seem to have settled for A5 as far as I could see. Also, it was sunny in Scotland, but once I hit England, or more specifically Yorkshire, it was miserable. Fog, rain, all grey and damp. What's with that!
Are we staying here now? Does this site do the same things as the old one? Work the same way?
The colour is the default theme, I will be looking to tweak it.
A lot of the emoticons were ones we uploaded to the old site, I will be bringing them across. 6KiB is the file size, it also needs to be a max of 90x90 pixels. If you make it this small, the file size should follow.
Other than that, the only thing different to the old site, is links don't open in a new window/tab (although this is on my to-do list).
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Update:Looking at Q&A in other areas this may be a 48 hour thing before everything propagates everywhere.
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Thanks Dan (for all your hard work in getting this set up too).refitman wrote:Hello daydreamer.daydreamer wrote:Ohh, so we're all here now eh?
Hmm, Looks okay, but why is it Tory blue? Some of the emoticons appear to be missing, and I know that it's not the most important thing, but what's the deal with only being able to upload an avatar that's only a 6 KiB (whatever that means in English)? I like to change mine often (I get bored, and it's probably the only thing that you lot find interesting about my posts).
This next bit is entirely anecdotal so not to be taken as any indication, but I've just come back from my hols, which happened to be in Scotland this year, and as far as I could see the 'yes' posters were far more in evidence than the 'no' ones. They were bigger too, the no campaign seem to have settled for A5 as far as I could see. Also, it was sunny in Scotland, but once I hit England, or more specifically Yorkshire, it was miserable. Fog, rain, all grey and damp. What's with that!
Are we staying here now? Does this site do the same things as the old one? Work the same way?
The colour is the default theme, I will be looking to tweak it.
A lot of the emoticons were ones we uploaded to the old site, I will be bringing them across. 6KiB is the file size, it also needs to be a max of 90x90 pixels. If you make it this small, the file size should follow.
Other than that, the only thing different to the old site, is links don't open in a new window/tab (although this is on my to-do list).
Hmm, re file size, even making them 90x90 doesn't reduce the file size on most. Oh well.
Anyhow off to bed now. It's Tuesday already.
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Didn't think to look at thatTechnicalEphemera wrote:Update:Looking at Q&A in other areas this may be a 48 hour thing before everything propagates everywhere.
The old site is open for business again. Will leave it until at least Friday before starting to lock things.
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i think that that's a given for the moment - we'll leave the appropriate trail of crumbs. Thanks Dan (on behalf of the FTNers all over) for such a speedy move and to execute it so swiftly. Now we're here, let's make sure it's right. I've been tinkering with some of the detailed settings to ensure that it's a hassle free presence for all posters, but if there's anything you see let us (Dan, Paul, me) know and we'll try to jigger around with the board's settings to get it right. Dan - if I've played with anything you don't like, change it back, as I've been working on my personal preferences regarding time outs and time zones.refitman wrote:Didn't think to look at thatTechnicalEphemera wrote:Update:Looking at Q&A in other areas this may be a 48 hour thing before everything propagates everywhere.
The old site is open for business again. Will leave it until at least Friday before starting to lock things.
Welcome to the future everyone!
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