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frightful_oik wrote:All Paxman did was aim personal insults at Ed. I found the whole thing very biased. Utterly deferential to Cameron; Just a series of ad hominems for EM.
frightful_oik wrote:All Paxman did was aim personal insults at Ed. I found the whole thing very biased. Utterly deferential to Cameron; Just a series of ad hominems for EM.
I don't agree.
Paxman ate Cameron and spat out the bones.
Agreed. I can see why Cameron wanted his paxo stuffing before the gentle Q&A.
frightful_oik wrote:All Paxman did was aim personal insults at Ed. I found the whole thing very biased. Utterly deferential to Cameron; Just a series of ad hominems for EM.
I don't agree.
Paxman ate Cameron and spat out the bones.
Badly worded by me. I meant.
Pax 1 Cam 0
Aud v Cam called off by deferential KB
Pax 1 Mil 1
Aud 1 Mil 1 Referee was bent.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, said Miliband had clearly given a better performance, giving him 7/10 against Cameron’s 4/10, Rowena Mason reports.
“It was not what I expected at all,” Farage said. “In terms of personalities, he fought back more, was more human and got the audience clapping. Cameron was nowhere near that. Cameron looked discomfited.”
The Twitter reaction is interesting. The way Miliband was questioned and how he answered (and that snide dig by Paxman right at the end) has generated a lot of sympathetic tweets for Miliband. If nothing else fighting back against Paxman has put that 'weak' nonsense to bed.
Larry Spuddles @LarrySpuddles 7 mins7 minutes ago
In summary #BattleForNumber10 Cameron didn't know how much the UK borrowed and Miliband's tougher than Chuck Norris. #HellYeah
Only 8% of those polled overall indicated that they were likely to have changed their mind about how they would vote at the election on the basis of what they saw tonight.
Amongst those, 56% said they would now vote Labour. And just 30% said they were now backing the Conservatives.
LadyCentauria wrote:
Hurrah! Shall we have a whip-round for her ticket. On a cargo ship...
I don't suppose we could tweet her.
Thanks Katie, do you mind if we run that as a Labour poster campaign?
Done.
And I've suggested that we might crowd fund her airfare.
Well, a very bad day at the office for Dave, and a pretty decent one for Ed. Will be curious to hear what my Daily Mail reading workmates thought of the debate, none of them are complimentary about Cameron anyway; based on recent conversations I reckon Ed probably picked up at least three more votes tonight .... every little helps.
A 54-46 margin for Cameron is actually pretty poor compared to how he usually scores in a "straight choice" with Ed. Backs up that EM actually "won" comfortably on the night
Ok last post of the night. I've snuck downstairs and Porfavor is cross with me...
Ben Page, Ipsos MORI @benatipsosmori 4 mins4 minutes ago
Miliband emerged with 53% cheers to 47% boos on Twitter. First time we've seen a politician emerge with more cheers than boos overall.
That @David_Cameron team can waste so much time +energy trying to screw John Bercow shows 1. Nasty party. 2. Not focused on winning election
7:54pm - 26 Mar 15
You don't know the late night job roles do you? You have to lay the table for breakfast, feed the cats, check whether we need a note for the milkman...
Spacedone wrote:Ok last post of the night. I've snuck downstairs and Porfavor is cross with me...
Ben Page, Ipsos MORI @benatipsosmori 4 mins4 minutes ago
Miliband emerged with 53% cheers to 47% boos on Twitter. First time we've seen a politician emerge with more cheers than boos overall.
I spotted that too. Cameron lectured and the audience listened. It was very static. When Ed came on there were some hostile questions but he still interacted, had a conversation, rather than get defensive and as a result the audience became involved, they reacted. It was more enjoyable, Ed put on more of a show and judging by twitter that's what came across. Suddenly the whole "Mr Prime Minister" thing from the start of the show seemed so prim and unnecessarily formal. The oldies may prefer it, but Ed's much more likely to engage younger voters. If only all those people on twitter were to register and go out and vote it would really make a difference, but will they?
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
Stuart Rose busy trying to justify the Cameron "refreshing and honest" on the serving only a second term bit.
Shame that Portillo is there to tell him that it's nonsense. There has to be a leadership election prior to 2020...it simply won't be the case that Cameron serves every day of the second term - even if he gets elected in May which isn't certain anyway.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
Oh, Andrew Neil has just reminded us that Stuart Rose was supposed to deliver a report on the NHS - apparently he's been asked to do further work so it probably won't appear before the election.
Fancy that...
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
You don't know the late night job roles do you? You have to lay the table for breakfast, feed the cats, check whether we need a note for the milkman...
... then muck out, groom, and feed the Guardvarks and help them on with their armour and boots before night patrol...
This time, I'm gonna be stronger I'm not giving in...
Don't get your hopes up though, it is both an ode to a better past and a grumble about those damned Europeans. Made me smile though, especially as a couple of years ago we drove from Belgium into France, and rather wonderfully, the old border control buildings had been left across the motorway, so you had to slow momentarily, but still sped unimpeded between nations.