Wednesday 29th October 2025
Re: Wednesday 29th October 2025
Tricky one, no right answer ?
"" If the proposition is contentious, there normally is a vote – as there will be today.
It would not be a vote on legislation (only a vote on the principle of leave to bring in a bill – not the same thing) and the government does normally ignore these votes.
But, given that Keir Starmer has categorically said he does not favour ECHR withdrawal, it is hard to see why Labour MPs should not vote against – other than that it would give Farage a bit of credibility, and establish the precedent that 10-minute rule bills matter, which is not what Labour whips want.""
"" If the proposition is contentious, there normally is a vote – as there will be today.
It would not be a vote on legislation (only a vote on the principle of leave to bring in a bill – not the same thing) and the government does normally ignore these votes.
But, given that Keir Starmer has categorically said he does not favour ECHR withdrawal, it is hard to see why Labour MPs should not vote against – other than that it would give Farage a bit of credibility, and establish the precedent that 10-minute rule bills matter, which is not what Labour whips want.""
Re: Wednesday 29th October 2025
Going through my Dad's papers I came across something he'd written -- about the UK needing a Bill of Rights .
Another piece of paper was the US Constitution, but that doesn't appear to be doing them much good --
Another piece of paper was the US Constitution, but that doesn't appear to be doing them much good --
Re: Wednesday 29th October 2025
Well, Farage has come out as the cutting edge of the former 'Conservative Party', Ed Davey leading the opposition to him , I think ? Stella Creasy wins too .
Confession -- I didn't think of the international optics of a Farage Win !
Not alone, the LP hierarchy didn't either

Confession -- I didn't think of the international optics of a Farage Win !
Not alone, the LP hierarchy didn't either