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Another bizarre Nat ad.
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Overcast and drizzly here. Drove up to Leeds earlier and had to contend with high winds as well.ohsocynical wrote:Clear blue skies, but very windy so cold, here.citizenJA wrote:Pouring down rain now.
I like it.
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Is that actually real??? The typesetting is really odd and how much did they pay for the IP?yahyah wrote:
Another bizarre Nat ad.
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QPR were robbed & all because of an atrocious kick by Rob Green - muppet !RogerOThornhill wrote:Talking of Gove...him and Toady support QPR (although I'd love to know if that's just a coincidence and whether Toady supports them just because Mikey does).
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
Ah well, here's hoping that by 6pm, my mighty reds have sent the blues back to the other side of the city with their tails between their legs.
#nerveskickingin #GULP
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I've got one neighbour who's a reds fan and one a blues.pk1 wrote:QPR were robbed & all because of an atrocious kick by Rob Green - muppet !RogerOThornhill wrote:Talking of Gove...him and Toady support QPR (although I'd love to know if that's just a coincidence and whether Toady supports them just because Mikey does).
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
Ah well, here's hoping that by 6pm, my mighty reds have sent the blues back to the other side of the city with their tails between their legs.
#nerveskickingin #GULP
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Speaking as a City inclined football watcher, I think that it'll be a United win at a canter, given City's dreadful form at the moment. Or maybe they'll have one of those days where they wake up and think "Wait a minute! We're meant to be quite good! Let's see if we can remember how we used to play".pk1 wrote:QPR were robbed & all because of an atrocious kick by Rob Green - muppet !RogerOThornhill wrote:Talking of Gove...him and Toady support QPR (although I'd love to know if that's just a coincidence and whether Toady supports them just because Mikey does).
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
Ah well, here's hoping that by 6pm, my mighty reds have sent the blues back to the other side of the city with their tails between their legs.
#nerveskickingin #GULP
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In Wales, in 2005, Council Tax was revalued and bands changed, including a new band I for properties worth over £424,000.yahyah wrote:Have to say council tax revaluation does scare me.gilsey wrote:A rare article touching on one of my personal hobby horses.
Pitt’s rule for non-doms is only one tax that belongs in the dustbin of history
Heather Stewart
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... of-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I would be very pleased if EdB announced on 8 May that the Mansion Tax would be temporary while they sorted out the council tax revaluation. Just Do It. (they won't)Margaret Thatcher’s deeply regressive poll tax, abandoned in the face of mass public protest, was replaced with a council tax based on 1991 property values. It was never completely proportional, but the intention was for regular revaluations, so that the tax would keep pace with house-price inflation.
Yet successive governments wary of upsetting a key demographic – the comfortable homeowner – have repeatedly failed to carry out revaluations, despite rocketing prices. As the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ authoritative Mirrlees Review of Britain’s tax system put it, “any revaluation inevitably creates losers and winners – and losers tend to be very vocal”. It called the failure to revalue council tax bands, “one of the most egregious demonstrations of the ‘tyranny of the status quo’ as a block to desirable change”.
Council tax is already our largest outgoing, apart from food at, over £1,300 a year for a tiny house.
A massive hike in it, which could happen under revaluation, could be crippling.
What should happen should only apply to new purchases, that would be fairer surely, and allow people to budget for an increase when they buy ?
There was a legal requirement to revalue every 10 years, but the Tories cancelled this, and devolved it to the Welsh Government - the WG don't appear to have any plans to revalue currently.
A shame that an article saying no one would be brave enough to revalue council tax didn't say anything about the Welsh experience or the fact that it was meant to be carried out every 10 years!
This article from 2005 suggests that it went quite smoothly:
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Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
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Especially if Financial Fair Play is enforced. They stand to lose millions in fines.RogerOThornhill wrote:Talking of Gove...him and Toady support QPR (although I'd love to know if that's just a coincidence and whether Toady supports them just because Mikey does).
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
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Everything about that is a bit odd ... or my mind is. I've got a yellow Migraleve tablet in dungarees wearing bottle glasses ... need I go on?yahyah wrote:
Another bizarre Nat ad.
Working on the wild side.
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IIRC it's Labour tomorrowPorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
Cons Tuesday
LDs Wednesday
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Thank you!pk1 wrote:IIRC it's Labour tomorrowPorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
Cons Tuesday
LDs Wednesday
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No they put it off till Tuesday so they could nit pick Labour's which is out tomorrow, to which I should have been going, but got hospital appointment through so can'tPorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
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Tuesday - delayed by a day so they can do a "These policies are rubbish!" about Labour when they publish tomorrow.PorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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I think tomorrow is Labour publishing their manifesto ... and the Conservatives have delayed their manifesto launch by a day to Tuesday so they have time to fully rubbish Labour's manifesto - and probably to adjust their own by adding in a few 'positive' or throwaway policies in response to Labour.PorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
Working on the wild side.
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Ah, yes - the unpicking delay. How could I have forgotten that? Thanks, everyone, for your responses.
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Apparently it's Labour's fault that the Conservatives have moved their launch:RogerOThornhill wrote:Tuesday - delayed by a day so they can do a "These policies are rubbish!" about Labour when they publish tomorrow.PorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
PaddyO madasballoons
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On Thursday morning, a tweet from the FT’s George Parker.
David Cameron to delay manifesto by launch 24 hours to next Tuesday. Tories say they want to "unpick" Lab manifesto, launched on Monday
10:51 AM - 9 Apr 2015
But by that evening:
A Tory source told the Press Association:
Labour tried to avoid scrutiny of their manifesto by doing it on the same day as ours. So we are moving ours. We want them to have a full day of scrutiny and we have a full day to tell people about our plans for a better future.
i suppose it depends who you believe: the Financial Times or the tories.
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step @beatthesystem1 3 hrs3 hours ago
#Tesco paid £519m in tax last year but received £364m in public subsidy for its 209,000 low-paid workers.
#Tesco paid £519m in tax last year but received £364m in public subsidy for its 209,000 low-paid workers.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:I think tomorrow is Labour publishing their manifesto ... and the Conservatives have delayed their manifesto launch by a day to Tuesday so they have time to fully rubbish Labour's manifesto - and probably to adjust their own by adding in a few 'positive' or throwaway policies in response to Labour.PorFavor wrote:Is it tomorrow that the Conservatives publish their manifesto? My mind's gone blank.
"So what you do is wait until someone else hands in their homework and have a look at it first so you can change yours".
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Loved that diGriz.
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Nick Clegg appearing in public with (fill in the blanks) David Laws? Not a good move, I would suggest.
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Tory MP lining up his future career. #gettingbattered fingers firmly crossed (Nutall)
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@ Ernst - Yay; @PK - boo!
@PK - Yay; @Ernst - boo!
@PK - Yay; @Ernst - boo!
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Needs to start practising his lines..."do you want salt and vinegar on your chips?"AngryAsWell wrote:Tory MP lining up his future career. #gettingbattered fingers firmly crossed (Nutall)
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''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
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Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
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Tories ask where's the money coming from,
Easy peasy. Out of greedy employers pockets. Was going to say greedy buggers, but thought I'd better not.
Easy peasy. Out of greedy employers pockets. Was going to say greedy buggers, but thought I'd better not.
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Actually LibDem. They'll say and agree to anything for a bit of power.yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. – Aesop
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Yes - but it would give the SNP something to think about!yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
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,yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
Libdems,easy,for 2 reasons.
1)they won't cause any trouble
2)the joy of watching the Nat's realise that they won't have labour over a barrel and Ed telling them to fuck off.
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Rebecca wrote:,yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
Libdems,easy,for 2 reasons.
1)they won't cause any trouble
2)the joy of watching the Nat's realise that they won't have labour over a barrel and Ed telling them to fuck off.
2) is definitely a plus !
& Lib Dems & their voters are not generally as ranty and abusive as most Nats.
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To be fair to him (bloody hell did I just say that?) party leaders tend not to do that much campaigning in their own constituencies because they rely on their national profile (and their large majority safe seat with accompanying army of campaigners) to do the job for them.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I still can't quite believe Clegg will lose his seat, tbh. His absence today suggests he shares that point of view.
Of course he, and I, could be wrong......
Clegg is in trouble though. The fact that Labour are anywhere near him in Sheffield Hallam is amazing in itself, that they might win it is astonishing. He's fronting it out right now by pretending that he's got nothing to worry about, hoping that if he doesn't look concerned then people will assume that they can't beat him.
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SNP of course. It would piss off the Tories royally. Libdums are Tories so I'd want nothing to do with them.yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
Shake your chains to earth like dew
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Ye are many - they are few."
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Erm... do they have permission from Universal Pictures for that advert?yahyah wrote:
Another bizarre Nat ad.
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frightful_oik wrote:SNP of course. It would piss off the Tories royally. Libdums are Tories so I'd want nothing to do with them.yahyah wrote:''THE SNP could be “irrelevant” in the formation of a UK government, according to new data that indicates Labour would be able to lead an administration with the support of the Lib Dems.''
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-fac ... -1-3743115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, be honest folks....SNP or the Lib Dems, which would you rather have if push comes to shove ?
Five years of their sanctimonious posturing and game playing though....and all those sweary, aggressive supporters hiding behind Sturgeon's apron strings.
Not sure it would be worth the hassle tbh. Unless it showed the Sturgeon- mania brigade just how manipulative the SNP are.
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I went back to look for it, it came from a Plaid twitter feed so suspect it was actually a Plaid member's photoshop job.Spacedone wrote:Erm... do they have permission from Universal Pictures for that advert?yahyah wrote:
Another bizarre Nat ad.
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That would explain it looking that shit.yahyah wrote:I went back to look for it, it came from a Plaid twitter feed so suspect it was actually a Plaid member's photoshop job.Spacedone wrote:Erm... do they have permission from Universal Pictures for that advert?yahyah wrote:
Another bizarre Nat ad.
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On the plaid thing, very naughty. The legal guys will catch up in the end.
Perhaps we should congratulate Universal for taking an interest in Welsh politics.
Perhaps we should congratulate Universal for taking an interest in Welsh politics.
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Looks as if it is this chap who created it
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Tell you what. Let's compromise and just go for a workable majority.
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I will take anything that gets these Tory scum out of power.PorFavor wrote:Tell you what. Let's compromise and just go for a workable majority.
Release the Guardvarks.
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(I need a frankenstein or hulk emoticon for when someone says "scotland")"The SNP is the only party which is standing firmly against the Tories' austerity agenda. No wonder more and more people are moving away from a Labour party which has been far too quick to simply copy Tory policies - and are instead putting their faith in the SNP to stand up for Scotland's interests.
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From a recent IQ test (!). Complete the following sequence:
a) Wee Jimmy Krankie
b) Box of lego
c) ...
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How exactly will Sturgeon stand up to the Tories if the Tories form a government ?
Other than through posture ?
A vote for the SNP in a seat Labour can win is potentially a vote bringing us closer to a Tory government, no amount of Nat spin changes that.
Other than through posture ?
A vote for the SNP in a seat Labour can win is potentially a vote bringing us closer to a Tory government, no amount of Nat spin changes that.
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These Tories can't explain where the money would come from
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I'm liking these adverts
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I'm liking these adverts
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To be unreasonably fair to the Nats, gifting seats to the Tories isn't really an issue in Scotland. Their argument being they will never deal with the Tories (which I don't believe).yahyah wrote:How exactly will Sturgeon stand up to the Tories if the Tories form a government ?
Other than through posture ?
A vote for the SNP in a seat Labour can win is potentially a vote bringing us closer to a Tory government, no amount of Nat spin changes that.
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Christopher Hope @christopherhope · 6m6 minutes ago
Time to go tactical. Nigel Farage tells Ukippers to vote Conservative in seats that they can' t win.
By @emilygosden: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... t-win.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
Time to go tactical. Nigel Farage tells Ukippers to vote Conservative in seats that they can' t win.
By @emilygosden: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... t-win.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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If only left wingers were as committed to a left wing government as right wingers are to a right wing one.AngryAsWell wrote:Christopher Hope @christopherhope · 6m6 minutes ago
Time to go tactical. Nigel Farage tells Ukippers to vote Conservative in seats that they can' t win.
By @emilygosden: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... t-win.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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Nowhere in that does he actually say "vote Conservative" - that is Torygraph spin.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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Immediately brings to mind the charlie brooker comment about Cameron's debate notes and maintaining human form.graun blog wrote:George Osborne has said that the Tories will support the “basic human instinct” of parents to provide for their children by ensuring that family homes worth £1m will be taken out of inheritance tax.
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ahem.......