Tuesday 5th May 2015
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I'm still not sure why Tizme took offence at me saying "pondlife" about racists posting below the line on a story about Muslims in the Guardian. I
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
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Some people enjoy taking offence,wouldn't worry about it.Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm still not sure why Tizme took offence at me saying "pondlife" about racists posting below the line on a story about Muslims in the Guardian. I
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
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Absolutely devastating critique of the Liberal Democrats enabling role in the 'death by a thousand cuts' brought about by this coalition government. I applaud this bloke for what he has written - and for wanting to join Labour to help reconstruct society after the demolition job his former party and the Tories have carried out. Just wish he'd done so - and spoken out - earlier.
Read his open letter to Nick Clegg this tweet links to.
Read his open letter to Nick Clegg this tweet links to.
Phil Wilson @PhilWilsonMP 9m9 minutes ago
Senior local Lib Dem supports @annaturley in Redcar @gselmer: With sadness. An open letter to @nick_clegg @LibDems: http://www.georgeselmer.com/?p=75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ”
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Interesting that his SNP opponent on Thursday is trying to persuade Tory voters to vote for her:Willow904 wrote:If he had any doubts about giving up his cushy Westminster seat to run for leader of Scottish Labour and having to try to get a seat in Holyrood instead, I suspect the way things are going, with the possibility of losing his Westminster seat anyway, he's probably thinking he's ended up with the best of a bad lot. And as it seems the only way for Scottish Labour from this point is up, he's going to take credit for something positive sometime down the road. It really can't get any worse, after all!Eric_WLothian wrote:He doesn't look too worried in this picture.AnatolyKasparov wrote:
I think that most people in England will feel sympathy, and some admiration, for Murphy. I certainly do and I am no big fan of his
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3763386
http://labourlist.org/2015/05/snp-appea ... -like-you/Kirsten Oswald has written a personalised note to Conservatives in the seat,saying that she is a “candidate who understands your values, your concerns and your priorities
(I think that link has been posted before).
Jim polled almost 51% of the votes in 2010, against the SNP just under 9%. That needs one hell of a swing to unseat him.
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Useful rounding.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Scope for Labour to squeeze both LibDems and Greens thereTheGrimSqueaker wrote:Labour unchanged, Tories down 4, still undoubtedly a load of old twaddle.Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 3m3 minutes ago
@LordAshcroft final poll details
CON 32%, LAB 30%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 12%, GRN 7%
Conservatives 168 = 31.5% rounded to 32%
Labour 162 = 30.4% rounded to 30%
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I was a bit naughty and phoned the Sun's Sell a Tory Story phone line.
The chap seemed to brighten up when I said I had a good news Tory story, then I added 'What would you like me to say then ?'
I was hoping to be able to catch him out, but he did seem to have a few scruples at least, and said it doesn't work like that.
I asked him if he worked for the Sun directly, he said no.
Couldn't resist saying 'I suppose you can't do what the Sun did to get stories, hack phones'.
Juvenile...but I couldn't help myself. Election tension is high.
The chap seemed to brighten up when I said I had a good news Tory story, then I added 'What would you like me to say then ?'
I was hoping to be able to catch him out, but he did seem to have a few scruples at least, and said it doesn't work like that.
I asked him if he worked for the Sun directly, he said no.
Couldn't resist saying 'I suppose you can't do what the Sun did to get stories, hack phones'.
Juvenile...but I couldn't help myself. Election tension is high.
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I have a vague recollection of an MP getting into the papers some years ago for referring to the electorate as 'pondlife'. It was said at the time that it was common HoC parlance.RobertSnozers wrote:Pondlife is useful and harms no-one. Perhaps it was the insult to pondlife that was the issue?Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm still not sure why Tizme took offence at me saying "pondlife" about racists posting below the line on a story about Muslims in the Guardian. I
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
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Tizme isn't like that though.Rebecca wrote:Some people enjoy taking offence,wouldn't worry about it.Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm still not sure why Tizme took offence at me saying "pondlife" about racists posting below the line on a story about Muslims in the Guardian. I
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
Might have came across like I was saying people attacking Labour BTL were pondlife.
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Or indeed how many MPs is OK for him to be PM. He did PPE, surely he can argue this point if nothing else?StephenDolan wrote: Indeed. With the numerous predictions of Labour around 265-270, are these based upon only a couple of Scottish MPs?
I've yet to hear Cameron asked whether ending up with less Conservative MPs in 2015 than 2010 is a resigning matter. He's opened himself up to this line of questioning with his 'legitimacy' rants.
Some of us thought Cameron getting 309 MPs and emerging as PM for a 5 year fixed Parliament was a bit of a stretch.
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You weren't Tubby.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Tizme isn't like that though.Rebecca wrote:Some people enjoy taking offence,wouldn't worry about it.Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm still not sure why Tizme took offence at me saying "pondlife" about racists posting below the line on a story about Muslims in the Guardian. I
It's a strong word, but I think it's merited.
Might have came across like I was saying people were attacking Labour BTL were pondlife.
Tizme's admitted she wasn't in the best of moods.
&, as a Green, she would surely think pond life A Good Thing.
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He probably won't lose his seat, but with all the hooha that he might, it doesn't matter how close it is, it'll look like a victory. Meanwhile Sturgeon has the unenviable task of living up to an SNP clean sweep - anything less now will look like failure. She's tried to temper expectations a little, but if the Libdem non-surge last time is anything to go by, not nearly enough.Eric_WLothian wrote:Interesting that his SNP opponent on Thursday is trying to persuade Tory voters to vote for her:Willow904 wrote:If he had any doubts about giving up his cushy Westminster seat to run for leader of Scottish Labour and having to try to get a seat in Holyrood instead, I suspect the way things are going, with the possibility of losing his Westminster seat anyway, he's probably thinking he's ended up with the best of a bad lot. And as it seems the only way for Scottish Labour from this point is up, he's going to take credit for something positive sometime down the road. It really can't get any worse, after all!Eric_WLothian wrote: He doesn't look too worried in this picture.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/t ... -1-3763386
http://labourlist.org/2015/05/snp-appea ... -like-you/Kirsten Oswald has written a personalised note to Conservatives in the seat,saying that she is a “candidate who understands your values, your concerns and your priorities
(I think that link has been posted before).
Jim polled almost 51% of the votes in 2010, against the SNP just under 9%. That needs one hell of a swing to unseat him.
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Cllr Malcolm Cunning @Malcolm4Linn 2h2 hours ago
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Dear A.C. Bastard,TechnicalEphemera wrote:Dear Scum Journalists,
My name is A C Bastard, and I couldn't run my business without David Cameron's government. I work in packing and I am making a killing. Here is how:
I recruit my workforce from Eastern Europe using an agency.
I pay them minimum wage, to avoid prosecution, but I house them in sub-standard barely habitable Accomodation six to a room. Here is the best bit I also charge them rent, thus clawing back a chunk of my wage costs and making a huge profit.
Any complaints about working conditions, no worries I just fire them and get some new workers in.
Sure the locals don't like it, but I don't give a toss. Of course Ed Miliband would stop all of this tomorrow and then where would I be. Still that is why I pay my £500k to get special access to David Cameron's dinner club.
Dave Cameron I love him, now give me my £100 pounds.
Yours,
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Damn you, Bastard, don't you know who I am? I hope they don't print our achievements alphabetically. I have far more interesting tales to tell and wish to make our claims first.
Yours,
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@dhothersall 4h4 hours ago
Weeks ago: He's not an SNP member.
Days ago: He's not an SNP member.
Hours ago: He's not an SNP member.
Now: We've suspended him
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5Live has reporter in factory in ultra-marginal N. Warks. Interviews three 'random' members of staff. How odd that all three were going to vote the same way. Bet you can't guess which way. *switches off irony machine*
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Ashcroft national polls have been consistently poor but this must be the worst ever.StephenDolan wrote:Useful rounding.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Scope for Labour to squeeze both LibDems and Greens thereTheGrimSqueaker wrote: Labour unchanged, Tories down 4, still undoubtedly a load of old twaddle.
Conservatives 168 = 31.5% rounded to 32%
Labour 162 = 30.4% rounded to 30%
As Stephen says incredible rounding on a pitiful adjusted sample just 533 after weighting.
Amongst the corkers Age group 18-24 just 43 votes weighted up to 59 considered of which 15 lab 14 con
Scotland Lab 21% LibDem 18% Con 2% (this because he could only find 1 Conservative voter in the whole of his Scottish sample)
His split for South East shows Con lead of 17% which may seem reasonable initially but half the region is London.
Because this poll is just too small it is likely to be utter rubbish.
As I said last week why does Ashcroft put his name to this. I do hope he is suitably embarrassed come Friday morning.
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Well...Willow904 wrote: He probably won't lose his seat,.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... ning-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very tight.
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pk1 wrote:@dhothersall 4h4 hours ago
Weeks ago: He's not an SNP member.
Days ago: He's not an SNP member.
Hours ago: He's not an SNP member.
Now: We've suspended him
Letting thugs do their dirty work, while fragrant Ms Sturgeon kisses babies and hugs grannies.
& I'm not being a hypocrite, I really don't like that sort of physically intimidating stuff.
Even thought the peaceful weekend anti-Farage pub protest was out of line and that had nothing on these
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Careful, Robert, I trust you wouldn't repeat that in Glasgow. On that note I remember my parents breaking down in the outskirts of Glasgow when my brother and I were teenagers and the two of us visited a local pub. Our Mum was from Peterhead where we were headed. Whilst there we drifted into Scottish accents, perhaps they weren't good enough. Let's just say it didn't go down particularly well.RobertSnozers wrote:Words cannot express how this 'Scottish resistance' stuff infuriates me. It's historically illiterate and insults the memory of those who actually have fought against an occupying force
The Scots were not invaded and subjugated by the Anglo-Normans (as distinct from the English) like Ireland and Wales were (or invaded and subjugated by the Normans as Anglo-Saxon+Danish England was, come to that)
The Scots were active and enthusiastic participants in the British Empire
The Jacobite Risings and the Battle of Culloden were not England vs Scotland, they were a series of scraps between supporters of one royal line (and version of Christianity) and another and included Scots on both sides
Edit: removed a spurious 'the'.
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SpinningHugo wrote:Well...Willow904 wrote: He probably won't lose his seat,.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... ning-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very tight.
But didn't some betting companies pay out on a 10 seat Tory majority in 2010?
Didn't happen did it ?
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'US-style dirty tricks campaign' flyer tells voters to oust Labour in key seat
Lib Dems and Tories deny being behind ‘illegal and unethical’ anonymous leaflet in north London marginal as local party makes police complaint
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... n-key-seat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Lib Dems and Tories deny being behind ‘illegal and unethical’ anonymous leaflet in north London marginal as local party makes police complaint
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... n-key-seat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I'm not much of a gambler, but if I was going to have a punt I'd like something a little more substantial to go on than the few Scottish polls we've had. If you'd gone with the polls last time you'd have put money on the Libdems beating Labour into third. As I said earlier, Murphy can be upbeat because come what may he's got an important job to do as Scottish Labour leader.SpinningHugo wrote: He probably won't lose his seat,
Well...
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri ... ning-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very tight.
Does anyone know if Labour do any private polling for their own info, btw. I'm curious as to whether the main parties have any additional knowledge of how things are shaping up that we're not privy to.
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gordon mccaskill @GordonMccaskill May 3
Interesting discussion on @BBCRadioScot this morning, still more than 35% of Scots voters undecided - a huge figure this close to GE
Interesting discussion on @BBCRadioScot this morning, still more than 35% of Scots voters undecided - a huge figure this close to GE
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Me neither & that's why I think there are plenty of 'shy Labour' voters up there; those that have voted Labour for donkeys years & know that Labour reflect their own values.yahyah wrote:
Letting thugs do their dirty work, while fragrant Ms Sturgeon kisses babies and hugs grannies.
& I'm not being a hypocrite, I really don't like that sort of physically intimidating stuff.
Even thought the peaceful weekend anti-Farage pub protest was out of line and that had nothing on these
I hope I'm not wrong....#quake
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Clegg "I will never be party to a government that advocated withdrawal from the European Union".
Do you see the get out there?
Clegg "I will never be party to a government that advocated withdrawal from the European Union".
Do you see the get out there?
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ohsocynical wrote:gordon mccaskill @GordonMccaskill May 3
Interesting discussion on @BBCRadioScot this morning, still more than 35% of Scots voters undecided - a huge figure this close to GE
Oh So, I could kiss you for that.
Let's hope those 35% see sense.
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More on that really vile Harrow East leaflet I posted info on yesterday.
Why has this Labour candidate been the target of a “deeply divisive leaflet” which backs her Tory opponent?
http://labourlist.org/2015/05/why-has-t ... -opponent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... The leaflet has been distributed by the organisation Dharma Sewa Purva Paksha (DSP) – based in Leicester – whose managing editor Mukesh Naker told the Independent that he is a Tory party member, but denied that the leaflets were backed by the Tories. Blackman also said that the leaflets were “nothing to do with me”.
This appears to be the DSP’s Facebook Group, which has also published a copy of the leaflet.
Kumaran has responded to the leaflet, saying:
“I am sad that such a deeply divisive leaflet has gone out. I am standing for the whole of Harrow East: a united and diverse community. On a personal level, as a Hindu, I am appalled that my faith is being used against me. Stop, this is gutter politics. I don’t know who is behind this leaflet but it condemns me and recommends people vote for Bob Blackman and people can draw their own conclusions.”...
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He's going all out to paint an abysmal picture, isn't he just. I don't believe him. (And that's not the IDS technique being used - I really don't believe him.)Jim Pickard @PickardJE 49s50 seconds ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottiah massacre.
Editing to add: Here's the one just after that where he's corrected the spelling mistake.
Jim Pickard @PickardJE 1m1 minute ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottish massacre.
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Who is he and why do I care what he thinks?rebeccariots2 wrote:He's going all out to paint an abysmal picture, isn't he just. I don't believe him. (And that's not the IDS technique being used - I really don't believe him.)Jim Pickard @PickardJE 49s50 seconds ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottiah massacre.
Editing to add: Here's the one just after that where he's corrected the spelling mistake.Jim Pickard @PickardJE 1m1 minute ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottish massacre.
Release the Guardvarks.
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Jason Beattie @JBeattieMirror 4s4 seconds ago
Look out for @Survation poll for @DailyMirror in 30minutes.
Look out for @Survation poll for @DailyMirror in 30minutes.
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I have been trying to understand why the betting market has shifted again: it was moving nicely Labour last week, but we are back to Cameron being very slight odds on to stay. The polls haven't flickered.
Now, maybe it is mug punter money. Richer people bet on politics and they bet how they want things to go. at the last election the betting market had a solid Tory majority.
But why the move?
What do people think of this
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... our-losing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now, maybe it is mug punter money. Richer people bet on politics and they bet how they want things to go. at the last election the betting market had a solid Tory majority.
But why the move?
What do people think of this
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... our-losing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Chief Political Correspondent for the Financial Times and co-founder of FT Westminster. Hack.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Who is he and why do I care what he thinks?rebeccariots2 wrote:He's going all out to paint an abysmal picture, isn't he just. I don't believe him. (And that's not the IDS technique being used - I really don't believe him.)Jim Pickard @PickardJE 49s50 seconds ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottiah massacre.
Editing to add: Here's the one just after that where he's corrected the spelling mistake.Jim Pickard @PickardJE 1m1 minute ago
It really isn't impossible that Labour could get fewer seats than in 2010, given Scottish massacre.
You don't.
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I was thinking more along sectarian lines actually, Robert. 'And now it is I that had better stfu.RobertSnozers wrote:... Oh yes, Glasgow is a 'Yes city' isn't it?
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Does all this negative spin around a Scottish massacre, an illegitimate gov and the inadequacies of any Labour majority remind anyone else of the build up to the euros and last local elections? All so that any Labour wins could be presented as somehow losses and therefore their results not as good as they should be.
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Oo eck. Can't stand much more of this. We've had Ashcroft telling us he's going to release another national poll on the morning of election day itself.ohsocynical wrote:Jason Beattie @JBeattieMirror 4s4 seconds ago
Look out for @Survation poll for @DailyMirror in 30minutes.
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Ha ha ha.rebeccariots2 wrote:Craig Murray is, of course, claiming that the picture of Jim Murphy managing to smile while the protestor screams in his face is photoshopped. It's all part of the big conspiracy. Reading that blog and BTL is deeply scary.
Herald in World’s Worst Photoshop
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... photoshop/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Implication of course being that all the other images are faked.
He also did this shit the other day.
I asked him for evidence before. He didn't have any.Every single accusation against the Mayor of Tower Hamlets, I witnessed being done by Lord Patel’s enforcers on behalf of Labour in Blackburn. My thoughts are today with those, particularly women and young people, in the Islamic community there who are now under terrible pressure. They are obliged to show their completed postal ballots before sealing to community elders, often themselves Labour councillors. They are not allowed to vote other than by post. The heads of household who have to enforce discipline on their families are themselves sometimes not happy, but tied in to mostly Gujerati tribal structures of subservience. That this still happens in the United Kingdom in 2015 is disgusting. What is worse is that it happens with the knowing connivance of Labour Party officials and of Blackburn Council.
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Murray of course owes his fame to "What, you mean you made me a diplomat and you don't think I should say what I want?"
Clue was probably in the job title.
Clue was probably in the job title.
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I thought they could not do polls on polling day? They cant even give exit polls until the booths closerebeccariots2 wrote:Oo eck. Can't stand much more of this. We've had Ashcroft telling us he's going to release another national poll on the morning of election day itself.ohsocynical wrote:Jason Beattie @JBeattieMirror 4s4 seconds ago
Look out for @Survation poll for @DailyMirror in 30minutes.
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What are the chances they will be 'unsuspended' in time for the SE next year?pk1 wrote:@dhothersall 4h4 hours ago
Weeks ago: He's not an SNP member.
Days ago: He's not an SNP member.
Hours ago: He's not an SNP member.
Now: We've suspended him
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If that's the case, I'm really impressed with the BBC (and others') ability to 'photoshop' videos.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Ha ha ha.rebeccariots2 wrote:Craig Murray is, of course, claiming that the picture of Jim Murphy managing to smile while the protestor screams in his face is photoshopped. It's all part of the big conspiracy. Reading that blog and BTL is deeply scary.
Herald in World’s Worst Photoshop
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... photoshop/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Implication of course being that all the other images are faked.
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Mug punter money, pure & simple. And that is just another hack piece by somebody who has to justify his existence this week, so much hot air .... in my opinion, obviously. Other opinions are available. Opinions can go up as well as down. Your house is at risk ..... nah, that one won't work.SpinningHugo wrote:I have been trying to understand why the betting market has shifted again: it was moving nicely Labour last week, but we are back to Cameron being very slight odds on to stay. The polls haven't flickered.
Now, maybe it is mug punter money. Richer people bet on politics and they bet how they want things to go. at the last election the betting market had a solid Tory majority.
But why the move?
What do people think of this
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COWER BRIEF MORTALS. HO. HO. HO.
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Sheesh - look at these proposals - it's beyond anything they've already done. These are monstrous.
Revealed: coalition proposals to cut welfare for sick, poor, young and disabled
Exclusive: ‘Extremely controversial’ ideas by civil servants include benefit freeze and making it harder for sick people to claim state aid, leaked papers show
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... The cuts proposed by officials at the Department for Work and pensions include abolishing statutory maternity pay and barring under-25s from claiming incapacity benefit or housing benefit. Money could also be raised, civil servants suggested, by increasing the bedroom tax in certain cases.
In one of the DWP documents seen by the Guardian, two Whitehall officials say colleagues who were consulted in 2014 about the potential cuts described them as “very/highly/extremely controversial” which highlighted that when it came to welfare spending that there was “not much low-hanging fruit left”...
Other options laid out in the DWP documents include:
• Getting employers to contribute more to the cost statutory maternity pay – or as an alternative abolishing it entirely
• Freezing benefit payments at current levels across the board
• Limiting welfare payments by family size
• Forcing single parents on income support to seek work when their youngest child reaches the age of three (currently five)
• Making it harder for sick people to claim state aid when they are out of work by introducing “stricter” fit-for-work tests and/or tighter limits on eligibility
• Increasing the bedroom tax on certain categories of renters
• Barring under-25s from claiming incapacity benefit or housing benefit
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There's a move to erect a statue of a rent-strike leader... in Govan.pk1 wrote:
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(T)Ed leading a rent strike - see, he's always been a trouble-maker !
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Do you have the best video of the bloke in Murphy's face?Eric_WLothian wrote:If that's the case, I'm really impressed with the BBC (and others') ability to 'photoshop' videos.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Ha ha ha.rebeccariots2 wrote:Craig Murray is, of course, claiming that the picture of Jim Murphy managing to smile while the protestor screams in his face is photoshopped. It's all part of the big conspiracy. Reading that blog and BTL is deeply scary.
Herald in World’s Worst Photoshop
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... photoshop/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Implication of course being that all the other images are faked.
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A list of “very, highly or extremely controversial” potential cuts to benefits have been drawn up by civil servants in response to warnings that the next government would struggle to keep welfare spending below a legal cap of about £120bn a year.
The cuts proposed by officials at the Department for Work and Pensions include abolishing statutory maternity pay and barring under-25s from claiming incapacity benefit or housing benefit. Money could also be raised, civil servants suggested, by increasing the bedroom tax in certain cases.
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We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. – Aesop
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Re: Tuesday 5th May 2015
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 16s 16 seconds ago
Survation Mirror poll with changes on previous survey for paper LAB 34% (NC); CON 33% (NC); UKIP 16% (NC); LD 9% (NC); GRE 4% (+1)
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We've gone back to wild west politics.Darren McCaffrey @DMcCaffreySKY 27m27 minutes ago
NEW STORY: @UKIP suspends candidate after he threatens to SHOOT Tory rival: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ro ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … via @DailyMirror.
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Re: Tuesday 5th May 2015
So Survation, Populus kind of as is, I await YouGov with interest. We now get into interesting territory either the polls are right, in which case I think it is hard for the Tories to win most seats (or significantly more seats), or they are completely wrong.rebeccariots2 wrote:Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 16s 16 seconds ago
Survation Mirror poll with changes on previous survey for paper LAB 34% (NC); CON 33% (NC); UKIP 16% (NC); LD 9% (NC); GRE 4% (+1)
Very strange days.
Release the Guardvarks.
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Re: Tuesday 5th May 2015
He's not doing a poll on the day - he's publishing one. Here's his tweet.AngryAsWell wrote:I thought they could not do polls on polling day? They cant even give exit polls until the booths closerebeccariots2 wrote:Oo eck. Can't stand much more of this. We've had Ashcroft telling us he's going to release another national poll on the morning of election day itself.ohsocynical wrote:Jason Beattie @JBeattieMirror 4s4 seconds ago
Look out for @Survation poll for @DailyMirror in 30minutes.
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft · 1h 1 hour ago
You haven't seen the last of the ANP. My final 3,000-sample pre-election phone poll will be published on Thursday morning on @ConHome
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