Lots of it, as here, is the pensioner vote which turns out and votes rightwing. and pensions cost a lot of money that would have gone on other things before. It's easy to say "do a 1945" but you can't with these demographics.howsillyofme1 wrote:Evening everyonecitizenJA wrote:The voter turn out was just as low as any fascist regime could wish. Don't ever believe voting doesn't matter. Voting matters. We must save ourselves here, people.HindleA wrote:Unsurprisingly,the Republicans took control of the Senate.
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'Have we passed Peak Democracy' - discuss
Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Just had this from 38 degrees:citizenJA wrote:Oh, wow. I'd like to emphasise the Draft Infrastructure Bill document I've linked to isn't that piece of crap that started out in the House of Lords.rebeccariots2 wrote:I really hope they can get some traction in the media re the infrastructure bill - it's very very scary.ChrisDean wrote:Just back from an event in the forest organised by HOOF, trying to get the MSM to notice how the Infrastructure Bill will affect our public woodlands if it passes unamended.
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I note that Denton in Texas - the home of fracking - has today voted to ban fracking - and many of the comments BTL on the story are pointing out that we in the UK will be pretty powerless to stop anything similar if this bill goes through.
A loud wake up call is needed - urgently.
You are very right. Current government's infrastructure bill is very scary indeed.
Infrastructure Bill [HL] 2014-15
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/201 ... cture.html
Our forests have been saved - again! And together we played a huge part in that.
The government was trying to sneak through plans which would have paved the way for our forests to be sold off. But at the very last minute, they backed down. They u-turned and made changes which mean our forests will be protected - in law. [1]
This is huge. For months, forest campaigners have been fighting for this. [2] In the last 24 hours, over 150,000 of us signed a petition backing them. And it was carried into the House of Lords debate by Baroness Royall who’s been battling the plans. [3]
As the debate started thousands of us took to Twitter. Together, we made sure they knew we were watching. [4] The government was well aware that they were fighting a losing battle.
Baroness Royall wanted to thank 38 Degrees members:
“This is a big victory for everyone that has campaigned to protect our forests. The 38 Degrees petition was a vital part of that. I’m grateful to all who showed their support.”
A few years ago, when it looked like the government was going to sell our forests, 38 Degrees members fought long and hard to save them. [5] And we won. This latest campaign proves how much power we have when we scramble together quickly to stand up for something we care about.
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Lucy Powell @LucyMPowell · 1m1 minute ago
I'll be on @BBCNewsnight soon (not live) discussing my new role
I'll be on @BBCNewsnight soon (not live) discussing my new role
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Britain Elects @britainelects · 1m1 minute ago
National Opinion Poll (YouGov):
LAB - 33% (-1)
CON - 32% (-)
UKIP - 17% (+2)
GRN - 7% (+1)
LDEM - 7% (-)
National Opinion Poll (YouGov):
LAB - 33% (-1)
CON - 32% (-)
UKIP - 17% (+2)
GRN - 7% (+1)
LDEM - 7% (-)
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"Stewart Lee: The Imaginary Liberal Comedy Cabal will crush the Ukips into dust"
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The North West verdict on regional devolution
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Well you can guess what the comments are like BTL.Lib Dems urged: return to ‘dog poo’ local politics to win back voters
New frontbencher admits core Liberal Democrat supporters are ‘pissed off’ but insists grassroots work can change minds
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... poo-voters
Still to be fair no one has yet talked about the Lib Dems being lower than something on the bottom of their shoe ...
Working on the wild side.
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Apologies to any Scots who may be offended but the Lewes bonfire effigies of Salmond & Nessie were intercepted & removed by Sussex Police after complaints !
Seriously ??!!
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So it's ok for Barrosso to be burnt in Edenbridge tonight but not Eck ?!
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Sometimes I despair for the countrymen of my birth for they seem to have no sense of humour when it comes to Saint Salmond. Twitter has a lot to answer for.
Seriously ??!!
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So it's ok for Barrosso to be burnt in Edenbridge tonight but not Eck ?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29917779" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sometimes I despair for the countrymen of my birth for they seem to have no sense of humour when it comes to Saint Salmond. Twitter has a lot to answer for.
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That's because most of us don't deliberately step in shit & having done so previously, now ensure they won't make that mistake again.rebeccariots2 wrote:Well you can guess what the comments are like BTL.Lib Dems urged: return to ‘dog poo’ local politics to win back voters
New frontbencher admits core Liberal Democrat supporters are ‘pissed off’ but insists grassroots work can change minds
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... poo-voters
Still to be fair no one has yet talked about the Lib Dems being lower than something on the bottom of their shoe ...
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Wheelie bins! No wheelie bins!
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A few seem to have a bigger problem than the lack of a sense of humour:pk1 wrote:
Sometimes I despair for the countrymen of my birth for they seem to have no sense of humour when it comes to Saint Salmond. Twitter has a lot to answer for.
Wish we could have 'Spitting Image' back!Another police source said: "Some people from the calls we have had seem to think that Alex Salmond himself is being set alight but it was in fact an effigy."
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home ... 1415202044
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Christ, I read a couple of comments BTL & could hardly believe what I was seeing ! Persecution complex on display for all to see. How pathetic they are.Eric_WLothian wrote:A few seem to have a bigger problem than the lack of a sense of humour:pk1 wrote:
Sometimes I despair for the countrymen of my birth for they seem to have no sense of humour when it comes to Saint Salmond. Twitter has a lot to answer for.
Wish we could have 'Spitting Image' back!Another police source said: "Some people from the calls we have had seem to think that Alex Salmond himself is being set alight but it was in fact an effigy."
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home ... 1415202044