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Efforts to give third sector bigger role in probation services haven’t worked, research finds
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Efforts to give third sector bigger role in probation services haven’t worked, research finds
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Sadly,not surprised in the least.
Sadly,not surprised in the least.
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Can't see this not happening with regularity,it doesn't always work,as it is.
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Disabled people struggle to afford food and heating, study says
Charity says quarter of disabled adults have less than £50 a week left after tax and housing costs
Charge the bastards more for social care,make any housing support a repayable interest bearing loan,pursue hospital beds in spare rooms for rent,remove thirty quid from the not terminally ill enough terminallly ill...
Christian.
Disabled people struggle to afford food and heating, study says
Charity says quarter of disabled adults have less than £50 a week left after tax and housing costs
Charge the bastards more for social care,make any housing support a repayable interest bearing loan,pursue hospital beds in spare rooms for rent,remove thirty quid from the not terminally ill enough terminallly ill...
Christian.
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Still waiting for a reward from Paul for complaining about the weather...
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I work in a fridge part of the time,above that temperature feels hot.
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Got caught in the freezer for a time,there is a cord you pull to get out,it was cut short being a short arse it took a few leaps to pull.
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And the Lord sayeth,bear false witness portray the sick/disabled/carers as being unfair to people in a totally different situation.
No me neither.
No me neither.
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Where are the EU going to go with this though? No withdrawal agreement and no transition is going to make the Irish border problem disastrously worse, surely.Jennifer Rankin
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Today's Brexit warning from Donald Tusk:
"The UK’s decision on Brexit has caused the problem [of the Irish border] and the UK will have to solve it. Without a solution there will be no withdrawal agreement and no transition."
I've thought for a while that May's strategy is to use this exact scenario to bounce the EU into accepting her favoured 'cherry-picking' deal, don't really want to see them fall for it.
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Policy paper
Postal and proxy vote pilot schemes are due to take place at the May 2018 local elections in Tower Hamlets, Slough and Peterborough.
Policy paper
Postal and proxy vote pilot schemes are due to take place at the May 2018 local elections in Tower Hamlets, Slough and Peterborough.
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Apply for a postal vote
18 April 2018
Information added to explain that it's now too late to apply by post for the 3 May elections
Cynicism is dead.
Apply for a postal vote
18 April 2018
Information added to explain that it's now too late to apply by post for the 3 May elections
Cynicism is dead.
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I've never had a problem with my six postal votes.
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Apart from the fact they weren't enough at the GE.
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This is an excellent thread
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Folk pointing out that Diane Abbott predicted precisely what is happening when this was debated in Parliament.Don't think it's been mentioned nearly enough that when the Tory/LibDem Coalition brought in the 2014 Immigration Act which caused the Windrush Scandal, only 18 MPs had the courage to vote against. They included David Lammy, Diane Abbott, John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn.
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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There's no knowing what's going on behind closed doors or if there are different 'back-positions' being held but in public it still seems remarkably consistent and clear that the EU are saying no deal at all without a locked down agreement on the future of the border, and that this means an agreement to ongoing full alignment if nothing else. So if a failure to come up with anything else for the border stops a wider agreement, the backstop is no ongoing deal BUT a nailed down stage one agreement that includes our commitment to maintain full alignment to keep the Irish border as it is.gilsey wrote:Where are the EU going to go with this though? No withdrawal agreement and no transition is going to make the Irish border problem disastrously worse, surely.Jennifer Rankin
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Today's Brexit warning from Donald Tusk:
"The UK’s decision on Brexit has caused the problem [of the Irish border] and the UK will have to solve it. Without a solution there will be no withdrawal agreement and no transition."
I've thought for a while that May's strategy is to use this exact scenario to bounce the EU into accepting her favoured 'cherry-picking' deal, don't really want to see them fall for it.
When it comes down to it, this is all about what leaving the EU means in reality rather than in propaganda. We have built up commitments and practices and we can't simply walk away from them without there being consequences. In this case, perhaps we can live without a trade deal with Europe and with a clear and obvious reputation as a country that will not keep its word as we go looking for other international agreements elsewhere.
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Never been her greatest fan as people here may already know, but she really has been very good on this.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is an excellent thread
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Folk pointing out that Diane Abbott predicted precisely what is happening when this was debated in Parliament.Don't think it's been mentioned nearly enough that when the Tory/LibDem Coalition brought in the 2014 Immigration Act which caused the Windrush Scandal, only 18 MPs had the courage to vote against. They included David Lammy, Diane Abbott, John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn.
David Lammy has been outstanding, too.
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"Albert Thompson says, despite May's claim at PMQs, he has not been told he will get his cancer treatment"
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Someone telling porkies?
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Imp clarification after #PMQs
from No10: destruction of landing cards was an "operational decision" by the UK Border Agency. Ie Not a decision by a Labour Home Secretary or minister.
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I am now highly confused - the Government/ Home Office released a background statement last night asserting “In 2010, the decision was taken by the UK Border Agency” - the PM says made in 2009 by Labour.
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What is government planning on doing to us?
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I did think it was odd that May could have initiated the decision to destroy the landing cards if it happened in 2010, taking such a decision and making it happen in 7 months would be a bit of a stretch for our bureaucracy.
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All things change, that's for certainThe Queen's corgis are dead: long live the 'dorgis'
Willow’s death marks first time the monarch has not owned a corgi since the second world war
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The consensus on Twitter seems to be that May's "ambush" of Corbyn was a simple lie.
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May at PMQs clearly intended the impression to be given that the decision was taken by a Labour Home Sec. Even if she did not actually say that explicitly.
As it happens, some journalists actually appear to be doing their jobs for once and calling her out on this.
As it happens, some journalists actually appear to be doing their jobs for once and calling her out on this.
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Here we go
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Shall I thank you again (bearing in mind that I battled through the first version)?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Sorry I deleted the image as it was HUGE. Will try again
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In 2010, the decision was taken...
So not 2009 then!
So not 2009 then!
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Labour really must improve its research. It's a given that the Conservatives will produce a lie to counter questions to which the correct answer is not to their liking.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:In 2010, the decision was taken...
So not 2009 then!
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Home Office claims that the destruction of Windrush-era landing cards in 2010 had no impact on the rights of those individuals to stay in the UK have been dramatically undermined by the evidence of two new whistleblowers. Staff, in fact, routinely used landing card information as part of their decision-making process, and saw the Windrush landing cards as a useful resource, according to information from two new Home Office whistleblowers.
Their accounts have been further supported by the emergence of Border Force guidance, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, that appears to contradict the government’s justification of a decision to destroy an archive of Windrush-era arrival slips.
The Border Force note appears to undermine the Home Office and Downing Street’s rejection of the documents’ significance. Giving details of how landing cards are used currently, the document stated: “Information from a landing card may be used by an entry clearance officer in making a decision on a visa application.”
Whistleblowers contradict No 10 over destroyed Windrush landing cards
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To Do:
- search for British citizens wrongly deported
- organise meals for people due to Universal Credit mistakes
- provide childcare
- take people to the hospital
- pick people up from the hospital
- organise care
- teach classes
- air bedding for homeless shelter
- clear out the closet for new housemate in between permanent housing
- search for British citizens wrongly deported
- organise meals for people due to Universal Credit mistakes
- provide childcare
- take people to the hospital
- pick people up from the hospital
- organise care
- teach classes
- air bedding for homeless shelter
- clear out the closet for new housemate in between permanent housing
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A government incapable of competently, honourably and safely providing leadership is inefficient, dangerous and costly
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bastards
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5m ago 15:01
Standards commissioner launches inquiry into claims Hunt broke MPs' code of conduct
Jeremy Hunt, the health secretary, is being investigated by Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards, her office has confirmed. The allegation is that he failed to declare his interest in a property company. PoliticsHome broke the story. We knew that a complaint had been submitted to the commissioner, but that does not automatically trigger an investigation because some complaints get dismissed as without merit. This one, though, is serious enough to merit a proper inquiry.(Politics Live, Guardian)
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Senior British and EU officials will discuss the UK’s future relationship with the European Union for the first time on Wednesday, in a milestone for the Brexit talks.
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Lot going on today, eh?Ministers to announce Brexit climbdown as they face Lords defeat
Government braces for series of amendments including over customs union as withdrawal bill goes through upper house
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Well worth a watch. Dawn Butler-Brent asking John Bercow for clarification over the destruction of the Windrush landing cards.
Well worth a watch. Dawn Butler-Brent asking John Bercow for clarification over the destruction of the Windrush landing cards.
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I don't watch a lot of things but I watched that Paul
Thank you for posting it
Thank you for posting it
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This is from Sky’s Faisal Islam.
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Keir Starmer watching on in Lords as peers are set to defeat Government returning an amended EU Withdrawal Bill closer to Opposition than Government policy
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Just on a point of order of my own, I think that is her constituency not her surname?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Well worth a watch. Dawn Butler-Brent asking John Bercow for clarification over the destruction of the Windrush landing cards.
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That article should be compulsory reading for every voter, absolutely shocking.citizenJA wrote: Whistleblowers contradict No 10 over destroyed Windrush landing cards
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Politics Live has a list of the tory peers voting for the CU amendment, look at these names.
Here are the 24 Conservative peers who rebelled over the customs union.
Lady Altmann
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom
Lord Balfe
Lord Bowness
Lord Cooper of Windrush (Andrew Cooper, David Cameron’s former strategy chief)
Lord Cormack
Lord Deben (aka John Gummer, the former party chairman)
Lord Green of Hurstpierpoint
Viscount Hailsham (aka Douglas Hogg, another former cabinet minister)
Lord Heseltine (former deputy prime minister)
Lord Horam
Lord Inglewood
Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate
Lord Lansley (Andrew Lansley, the fomer health secretary)
Lady McGregor-Smith
Lady McIntosh of Pickering
Lord Northbrook
Lord Patten of Barnes (Chris Patten, former Tory chairman and former European commissioner)
Lord Prior of Brampton
Lord Tugendhat
Lady Verma
The Duke of Wellington
Lady Wheatcroft (Patience Wheatcroft, the former Sunday Telegraph editor)
Lord Willetts (David Willetts, the former universities minister)
Here are the 24 Conservative peers who rebelled over the customs union.
Lady Altmann
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom
Lord Balfe
Lord Bowness
Lord Cooper of Windrush (Andrew Cooper, David Cameron’s former strategy chief)
Lord Cormack
Lord Deben (aka John Gummer, the former party chairman)
Lord Green of Hurstpierpoint
Viscount Hailsham (aka Douglas Hogg, another former cabinet minister)
Lord Heseltine (former deputy prime minister)
Lord Horam
Lord Inglewood
Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate
Lord Lansley (Andrew Lansley, the fomer health secretary)
Lady McGregor-Smith
Lady McIntosh of Pickering
Lord Northbrook
Lord Patten of Barnes (Chris Patten, former Tory chairman and former European commissioner)
Lord Prior of Brampton
Lord Tugendhat
Lady Verma
The Duke of Wellington
Lady Wheatcroft (Patience Wheatcroft, the former Sunday Telegraph editor)
Lord Willetts (David Willetts, the former universities minister)
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Quite right. I knew there was something wrong when I typed itAnatolyKasparov wrote:Just on a point of order of my own, I think that is her constituency not her surname?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Well worth a watch. Dawn Butler-Brent asking John Bercow for clarification over the destruction of the Windrush landing cards.
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Gerald Batten-ing down the hatches . . .
Edited to add - and PTO after next (citizenJA's - hindsight can be a wonderful thing) post
Edited to add - and PTO after next (citizenJA's - hindsight can be a wonderful thing) post
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I'm calling it an early night, everyone
Please have a good evening, all
love,
cJA
Please have a good evening, all
love,
cJA