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Grammar schools in England to get £50m expansion fund

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Just sometimes she hits the mark!

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This is a disgusted bung for the best off while schools in my constituency are losing staff and my kids class has 32 people in it. I despair


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Recent listening R4 --

On the belhaj case —-

Twice last night the bbc casts a sly doubt — “he says he was tortured” .

In paliament the AG was adamant — ” We completely accept their story.”

Toady’s Martha Kearney talking to palestinians and israelis opposed to colonies(FR), settlements (GB) .

Tories spending more on grammar schools and free faith schools, nothing socially divisive intended ; religious separation worked so very well in Norn Iron .


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If it is true, that the board of the @ElectoralCommUK is comprised of vocal remain supporting individuals, that needs exposing and challenging @BBCr4today in the same way it would if it was comprised of vocal/declared left or right leaning members.


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Dorries should be careful. That "If it is true" looks a bit shaky to me :twisted:


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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Tweet

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Leave.EU fined £70k over breaches of electoral law
Campaign’s chief officer referred to police after inquiry finds it broke referendum spending limit


Of course, it was always the case that the worst any campaign breaking the rules would face from the Electoral Commission was a fine. The referral of Leave.EU's chief officer to the police, though, is pretty serious as this would not happen over the kind of grey areas or misunderstandings that parties have gotten a slap on the wrist for in the past. This suggests clear and deliberate violation of the rules. Oh and as far as I'm aware the official leave campaign, Vote Leave, is still under investigation, not to mention the parallel but separate investigations by the Information Commissioner, so Aaron Banks is being disingenuous with this:

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He added: “The EC went big game fishing and found a few ‘aged’ dead sardines on the beach. So much for the big conspiracy! What a shambles. We will see them in court.”

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A C Grayling making a complete fool of himself saying the Electoral Commission should have declared the Referendum void.

Which of course they aren't able to do :roll:

For me, every one of his interventions makes Brexit more likely.


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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If it is true, that the board of the @ElectoralCommUK is comprised of vocal remain supporting individuals, that needs exposing and challenging @BBCr4today in the same way it would if it was comprised of vocal/declared left or right leaning members.


The Electoral Commission only re-opened its investigation into undeclared collaboration between Vote Leave and BeLeave after it was threatened with legal action by the Good Law Project. So I'm not really seeing this rabid pro-remain bias at the Electoral Commission myself. More a desire to not rock the boat unless they are actively pushed to look into the facts, which they then have to act upon because the facts are clear and indisputable.

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If it is true, that the board of the @ElectoralCommUK is comprised of vocal remain supporting individuals, that needs exposing and challenging @BBCr4today in the same way it would if it was comprised of vocal/declared left or right leaning members.


The Electoral Commission only re-opened its investigation into undeclared collaboration between Vote Leave and BeLeave after it was threatened with legal action by the Good Law Project. So I'm not really seeing this rabid pro-remain bias at the Electoral Commission myself. More a desire to not rock the boat unless they are actively pushed to look into the facts, which they then have to act upon because the facts are clear and indisputable.

Yes Twitter is best avoided on this one!

Remoaners, remoaners, will of the people, blah, blah....


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It's what the folk in the middle think that's important. People who may have voted Leave but are having second thoughts. People who voted Remain but have since been tempted to look at Leave.

If this gives them a face saving way of switching their allegiance firmly to Remain it will be a very good thing.


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A C Grayling making a complete fool of himself saying the Electoral Commission should have declared the Referendum void.

Which of course they aren't able to do :roll:

For me, every one of his interventions makes Brexit more likely.


He should at least hold back until the Electoral Commission has completed its investigation into the official leave campaign Vote Leave. Overspending by a single unofficial campaign can be shrugged off far more easily than overspending and illicit secret collaboration by the official campaign and others, with an overarching link to Aggregate IQ, a company closely associated with the established villains of the piece, Cambridge Analytica.

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Theresa May has divided her cabinet into two groups to fight out their differences over Britain’s post-Brexit customs arrangements, intensifying speculation that she is preparing to delay her decision on the issue. (Politics Live, Guardian)


I thought Theresa May had now come up with a third option - is that not up for discussion? Or am I now as hopelessly confused and addled as she appears to be? I've almost given up trying to keep abreast of it all, and only sporadically bother even making the attempt.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-44069947
"Is there another Brexit way for Theresa May?"
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Here is what sources have told me could be a new plan.
The prime minister comes up with a soft-ish form of Brexit, something its supporters would describe as "sensible" or "pragmatic".
Labour votes?
It would probably mean being in a customs union - and certainly maintaining extremely close links with the EU - all with the goal of minimising the harm to the economy at the point of departure.


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I'm sure that JRM and his ERG cronies will accept all that without demur.......


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"What did Leave.EU do wrong, and could its breaches stop Brexit?"
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Leave.EU’s punishment for spending too much money in the EU referendum is to have to spend a bit more now. The Electoral Commission has fined the campaign organisation a total of £70,000 for failures in its declaration, with the regulator noting the level of penalties “has been constrained by the cap on the commission’s fines”.

Doh! I've only just picked up on stupidity of this ( can now see why threat of prison might be needed.)


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The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is reported to have called for a rethink of plans to downgrade Huddersfield Royal Infirmary.

He's said the proposals aren't in the best interests of local people.


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Absolute dead horse being flogged here, in fact a zombie holdover from last year's failed GE campaign.

(and its far from the only one of those)


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I've almost given up trying to keep abreast of it all, and only sporadically bother even making the attempt.
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"Is there another Brexit way for Theresa May?"
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Here is what sources have told me could be a new plan.
The prime minister comes up with a soft-ish form of Brexit, something its supporters would describe as "sensible" or "pragmatic".
Labour votes?
It would probably mean being in a customs union - and certainly maintaining extremely close links with the EU - all with the goal of minimising the harm to the economy at the point of departure.

I think she wants a softish brexit and to sell it to the nutters as ok because we'll be making the regulations ourselves, which will just happen to be identical to the EU regulations. Sovereignty or, as others would have it, red tape, which is good as long as it's our red tape.

cf Galileo, nuclear regulation, etc

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"Jacob Rees-Mogg: 'Walking through fields' at Irish border won't provide insight on Brexit"
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"This seems fanciful, all the relevant governments have said that they do not want physical infrastructure at the border, if all three don't want it, who is going to do it?"

I doubt the local Sainsbury's want to have security guards stationed at the door, but, strangely enough, they still do.


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https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/jacob-reesmogg-walking-through-fields-at-irish-border-wont-provide-insight-on-brexit-36896545.html
"Jacob Rees-Mogg: 'Walking through fields' at Irish border won't provide insight on Brexit"
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"This seems fanciful, all the relevant governments have said that they do not want physical infrastructure at the border, if all three don't want it, who is going to do it?"

I doubt the local Sainsbury's want to have security guards stationed at the door, but, strangely enough, they still do.

Great point well made.


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So after being told by @andywigmore that @Arron_banks would do an interview about the fine for leave.eu breaking spending rules we hired a crew to go to Ballymena and waited. He ran off saying he wouldn’t do #C4news. I can only conclude Arron is afraid


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Outsourcing firm Interserve faces City watchdog investigation
The FCA inquiry is the latest problem for the beleaguered company, which is one of the UK's biggest private sector employers.


Back in 2012 David Cameron boasted that the economic "good news is going to keep coming." Six years later and most of us are still wondering when it's going to start.

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Evening all. Been in that Oxford all day and just got back.

Think someone at the DfE needs to read the list of school types again. Then delete one.

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By creating new #schools where they are needed most and helping all great schools - whether it is a comprehensive, academy, faith school, or selective school - to grow, we can give more children from all backgrounds the world-class education they deserve. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driv ... r-families


A school can be both academy and any of these others...

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