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Wednesday 1st August 2018
Morning
Fears cash-strapped council may cut services for vulnerable children
Northamptonshire county council scrambles to save £70m amid warnings even core services are at risk
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Fears cash-strapped council may cut services for vulnerable children
Northamptonshire county council scrambles to save £70m amid warnings even core services are at risk
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... e-children" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Universal credit payments at risk of being used by abusers, MPs say
Single monthly payment means abusive partner could receive entire family income, report says
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Single monthly payment means abusive partner could receive entire family income, report says
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Councils keep spotlight on social care by publishing their own 'green paper
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Councils keep spotlight on social care by publishing their own 'green paper
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What is adult social care and why is it important?
What is adult social care and why is it important?
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"" Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for appearing on platforms with people whose views he "completely rejects".
Mr Corbyn's statement was in response to the Times reporting that he hosted an event in 2010 at which a Holocaust survivor compared Israel to Nazism.
The event was held at the House of Commons on Holocaust Memorial Day.
Labour MP Louise Ellman told BBC Newsnight she was "absolutely appalled" to hear about Mr Corbyn's involvement.""
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It was no secret, but has been carefully dug up for this display of righteousness !
Again, we have the conflation of criticising the acts of an Israeli government with a supposed attitude towards all jews .
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Mr Corbyn's statement was in response to the Times reporting that he hosted an event in 2010 at which a Holocaust survivor compared Israel to Nazism.
The event was held at the House of Commons on Holocaust Memorial Day.
Labour MP Louise Ellman told BBC Newsnight she was "absolutely appalled" to hear about Mr Corbyn's involvement.""
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It was no secret, but has been carefully dug up for this display of righteousness !
Again, we have the conflation of criticising the acts of an Israeli government with a supposed attitude towards all jews .
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IIRC even one of these hardened old killers from Shin Bet made the same comparison --
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What an awful mess in the LP . Gotta run, good day !
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What an awful mess in the LP . Gotta run, good day !
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Garden Bridge trustees may have ‘breached their legal duties’ says QC
Garden Bridge trustees may have ‘breached their legal duties’ says QC
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Nearly LegalHindleA wrote:Morning
Fears cash-strapped council may cut services for vulnerable children
Northamptonshire county council scrambles to save £70m amid warnings even core services are at risk
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12h12 hours ago
More Nearly Legal Retweeted Patrick Butler
Finance director apparently suggesting statutory duties to eg vulnerable children will be cut. But they can’t. Not where statutorily obliged to provide. This will be... interesting
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Happy Yorkshire Day!
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I'm celebrating in Cumbria
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A Yorkshire bit of Cumbria? (Dent, Sedbergh, Garsdale)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Happy Yorkshire Day!
I'm celebrating in Cumbria
-we were in Dent 2 yrs ago, on Yorkshire day, pleased to see one of useful things their mp (Farron) had done was get Dent beer served in house of commons.
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How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy
Wren-Lewis
How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy
Wren-Lewis
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Another zinger from him.HindleA wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... tanks.html
How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy
Wren-Lewis
And why has he become so good (IMO anyway)? Because, even though he still thinks Brexit is very important (and it is) it is no longer the be-all and end-all.
Others could learn from that.
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"No deal is better than a bad deal."
However you define a "bad deal", that doesn't sound very accidental to me.
However you define a "bad deal", that doesn't sound very accidental to me.
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Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.
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AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.
It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...
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Abi: https://twitter.com/AbiWilks?ref_src=tw ... r%5Eauthor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;frog222 wrote:AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.
It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AbiWilks?ref ... r%5Eauthor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;frog222 wrote:AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.
It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...
She seemed to disappear yesterday, but can find her now.
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No, it was his colleague Danny Finkelstein doing that. AW called him out, DA claimed she was being outrageous and libellous and was duly shredded.frog222 wrote:AK -- I looked for her yesterday but couldn't find her self, just a comment she made elsewhere , Linky Please ?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Abi Wilkinson now totally pwning the execrable David Aaronovitch on Twitter. Do take a look while you still can.
It did appear that D A was consorting with some very wicked people ...
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TKSVM to refitman TBG AK !
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Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.
He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...
Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .
He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...
Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .
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Hmmm, I thought the AfD at least make a few nods in that direction?frog222 wrote:Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.
He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...
Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .
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AK -- hmmm , strangely enough I had noticed that too.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Hmmm, I thought the AfD at least make a few nods in that direction?frog222 wrote:Incidentally I had breakfast in town with my friend Siggi, whose father was one of the first SA and then SS.
He remembered telling me five years ago there was no chance of a german equivalent of our Front National...
Also that there is considerable self-censorship there on the Israel subject. For fear of being accused of AS .
it may well have been SIX or even SEVEN years ago .
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Yes!
I've just been reading John McDonnell on universal basic income:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I remain sceptical, I'm afraid. I
You give people money and the spivs and the shysters will just work out ways to take it off them.
That's why I'm a fan of renting people council houses. It fulfils a need - shelter - in a way that makes it difficult for the already wealthy to get their hands on any of the money involved. Think about how the right-wing is especially exercised over life time leases and you'll see what I mean.
I've just been reading John McDonnell on universal basic income:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 71616.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I remain sceptical, I'm afraid. I
You give people money and the spivs and the shysters will just work out ways to take it off them.
That's why I'm a fan of renting people council houses. It fulfils a need - shelter - in a way that makes it difficult for the already wealthy to get their hands on any of the money involved. Think about how the right-wing is especially exercised over life time leases and you'll see what I mean.
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HindleA wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... tanks.html
How BBC balance and bad think tanks discourage evidence based policy
Wren-Lewis
(cJA bold)The Knowledge Transmission Mechanism (KTM) is how knowledge produced by academics and other researchers is translated into public policy. Evidence based policy is the result of this mechanism working.
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The rigid application of political balance in the broadcast media is in danger of negating the KTM, and therefore evidence based policy.
The moment an issue (call it issue X) is deemed ‘political’ by the media, balance dictates that any view expressed on issue X is an opinion rather than knowledge.
I liked this Wren-Lewis article a lot
Calling an issue political doesn't have to mean it's not knowledge-based and factual. A 'political' issue doesn't make it an opinion. A 'political' issue can be factual, verifiable.
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I'm a fan of renting people council houses. It fulfils a need - shelter - in a way that makes it difficult for the already wealthy to get their hands on any of the money involved. Think about how the right-wing is especially exercised over life time leases and you'll see what I mean.
Precisely; a safe home is essential. It's impossible to do more than survive without a safe home. Take care of that for everyone and worlds open up for them.
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Ironically I think we may be in Furness, so Lancashiretinybgoat wrote:A Yorkshire bit of Cumbria? (Dent, Sedbergh, Garsdale)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Happy Yorkshire Day!
I'm celebrating in Cumbria
-we were in Dent 2 yrs ago, on Yorkshire day, pleased to see one of useful things their mp (Farron) had done was get Dent beer served in house of commons.
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Siesta after the swim, reading more Peston WTF ? plus sawing firewood for winter !AnatolyKasparov wrote:Anybody out there?
( No Russian gas away from the towns here . )
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I know opinions on Basic Income differ here, but I have always thought it a concept with real possibilities.
Its true that some right wing "libertarian" types support a version of it (the late Milton Friedman did) but that alone shouldn't put people off the idea.
A radical left wing government could well find pursuing this attractive.
Its true that some right wing "libertarian" types support a version of it (the late Milton Friedman did) but that alone shouldn't put people off the idea.
A radical left wing government could well find pursuing this attractive.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... tower-siteGovernment says it will take control of Grenfell Tower site
U-turn means Kensington and Chelsea council will ‘take no role’ in decisions over site
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scene in AliensPorFavor wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... tower-siteGovernment says it will take control of Grenfell Tower site
U-turn means Kensington and Chelsea council will ‘take no role’ in decisions over site
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Gorman insisted the area was secure
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I was up before five this morning, and heard the R4 reports of the Corbyn Apology.
My immediate DailyMail headline-generator response was —
CORBYN CRAWLS !
My immediate DailyMail headline-generator response was —
CORBYN CRAWLS !
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OR some variation on it ... Good BTL discussion here --AnatolyKasparov wrote:I know opinions on Basic Income differ here, but I have always thought it a concept with real possibilities.
Its true that some right wing "libertarian" types support a version of it (the late Milton Friedman did) but that alone shouldn't put people off the idea.
A radical left wing government could well find pursuing this attractive.
labour-universal-basic-income-and-a-job-guarantee/
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"Boris Johnson tops Conservative poll as favourite to replace Theresa May"
"Boris Johnson tops Conservative poll as favourite to replace Theresa May"
Just think how popular he'd be if he took the next step & quit politics.Boris Johnson has returned to being the darling of the Tory grassroots after quitting government in protest at the prime minister's Brexit strategy
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Given his foreign policy "successes" we'd probably be at war with China by Day 3 or his Premiership...
Evening all. Moderately successful day in t'library - some questions answered, other questions still leave me baffled.
Evening all. Moderately successful day in t'library - some questions answered, other questions still leave me baffled.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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tinybgoat wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/amp/boris-jo ... y-11456262
"Boris Johnson tops Conservative poll as favourite to replace Theresa May"Just think how popular he'd be if he took the next step & quit politics.Boris Johnson has returned to being the darling of the Tory grassroots after quitting government in protest at the prime minister's Brexit strategy
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very good
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Zimbabwe election unrest turns deadly as army opens fire on protesters
Three people killed after live ammunition, water cannon and teargas fired in capital
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