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John Prescott: I refuse to accept the Labour Party is racist and anti-Semitic

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The Israel First intifada against Evil Oppressor Corbyn continues !

"" A spokesperson for the Campaign Against Antisemitism dismissed the Guardian article as “vague and meaningless”.

He said: “There is no acknowledgement of his own role in this crisis. There is no apology for his antisemitic activity in the past, but he has hypocritically condemned as antisemitic behaviour that he himself has been guilty of.

“He has again preached to Jews that he is right to have rewritten the international definition of antisemitism.

“By his action over the years as well as by failing even now to take on board the full concerns of the Jewish community, we remain convinced that Jeremy Corbyn is an antisemite and under his leadership the once anti-racist Labour Party has become institutionally antisemitic and an existential threat to British Jewry.
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A bit of coincidence with another poster just now ...

7.52 @ “Frog: Corbyn picked the wrong people to do his homework for him?”

frog2222 7:59 “It doesn’t look as though the essay written by the ‘Corbyn team’ has done the slightest bit of good. Knock me down with a feather !”
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Back to serious business, a funny one on Spike Lee’s new film Black Klansman on Toady earlier .The black cop becomes good friends with David Duke online, and a white cop does the meetings .

” They’re not the brightest lightbulbs in the socket”.

Talking of which ,have Tory cuts in Police /CPSO’s really had no effect in the fight against rightwing extremism ?

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Middle aged people – time for our revolution!

My Ma went in January, at 90.
She had me when she was 20 , so this is addressed to my children, average age 40 ! :-)


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The point, in a nutshell, is that at the time of the referendum there was a general failure to understand the extent to which our legal, political, and economic arrangements had become tied up with the EU.

https://twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/stat ... 8879875072

The article he's responding to is here
https://quillette.com/2018/08/03/britai ... st-revolt/

There's lots in it I disagree with, but the main thing is that it overlooks "Decades of negative UK media", as this chap says:

https://twitter.com/IsolatedBrit/status ... 2917969920

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With Etonians shunned in the modern Cabinet, where will the new talent come from?

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Good morfternoon.

No joyous tidings from across the Channel, then? Theresa May is certainly keeping quiet about them if there are. Perhaps it's a surprise . . .


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29 AGAIN !


Birthday? Or am I missing the point?


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Good morfternoon.

No joyous tidings from across the Channel, then? Theresa May is certainly keeping quiet about them if there are. Perhaps it's a surprise . . .


Tbf the relative silence *could* be a good sign. Not holding my breath admittedly.....


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The Guardian view on creative workers: Britain needs them
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British creative industries generated almost £92bn in 2016 and grew at twice the average of the UK economy....
According to the Creative Industries Federation, more than a third of creative workers are self-employed – compared with 15% across the economy.

...violinists, artists, ballet dancers, film editors, lighting designers, curators, fashion photographers, authors, games designers, and a host of other British workers whose success depends on their ability to take a short-term contract in Germany or Italy, or to appear at festivals in the Netherlands or France. Many British orchestras are made up of freelance players.

Were they faced with a European tour that involved acquiring visas for each country they wished to visit it could utterly debilitate them.
A UK band gets a phone call from a music venue organiser somewhere within the EU asking if they can do a gig day after tomorrow. UK organisers do the same, ringing up bands not based in the UK on short notice asking if they can play. This happens all the time; people make their living doing this.

People working in creative industries rely on the ease freedom of movement making ventures profitable for all concerned. Requiring visas changes all this.

Comments were closed below the line before 200 posts and many posting didn't seem to read the article. I was unable to make the point I'm attempting here.


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Afternoon all.

Someone has just unearthed this from 2 years ago...dearie me...

https://twitter.com/LowTaxChloe/status/ ... 1144826880

Check the dates and the associations...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegida_UK

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Been sawing a tractor bucketload of branches, now time for drying-off, hydration and some light relief !

Michael1611 -- absolutely ghastly. What will it be like after Brexit?

conejo @ Michael1611 -- It'll be fine. You won't be able to afford to travel abroad.

I don't think this writer was exaggerating very much :-)

The sheer hell that is heading off on holiday from Britain
Patrick Collinson

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Apparently Tom Harris has finally left Labour.

Yes, the Tom Harris who has been writing for the Daily Telegraph for the past two years and who - apparently - spoke approvingly enough about the Taxpayers Alliance that they cited him in an annual report.

A great loss to the left I'm sure you'll agree...

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... xit-nhs-eu

"Fears for NHS as apprenticeships fail to plug gaps left by Brexit brain drain"

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29 AGAIN !


In leap years?

A fair bit closer to that than to zero, come to think of it !

It's cooled down to 26.5, but not sure I have the courage to do any more werk :-)
So continue skiving . This from the latest RESIGNER isn't on amazon uk, and no reviews stateside, odd ?

https://www.amazon.com/Years-Death-Labo ... 1785902237

Now for Frank Field --

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... birkenhead

I need to balance Nunns and Peston .


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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... some-staff


Anger and confusion as ‘complex’ NHS pay deal disappoints staff

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In leap years?

A fair bit closer to that than to zero, come to think of it !

It's cooled down to 26.5, but not sure I have the courage to do any more werk :-)
So continue skiving . This from the latest RESIGNER isn't on amazon uk, and no reviews stateside, odd ?

https://www.amazon.com/Years-Death-Labo ... 1785902237


Even the title is a rip off of the book Austin Mitchell wrote after the 1983 GE. Almost certainly that was a much better read too.


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Windrush victims ‘gagged’ with non-disclosure agreements in return for fast-track compensation
Exclusive: Fury over confidentiality deals – despite home secretary telling MPs: ‘No one will be asked to sign any kind of non-disclosure agreement’

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"I have no idea as to why someone that labels people that happen to support someone I don't as hard left cultists en masse on that basis gets the (seeked for as "confirmation")reaction they do,I'm thinking of leaving the party for the eightieth time.Corbyn is weak as well as unbending,a dangerous radical with no sign of radicalism etc."

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"My knee jerk reactionism is far better than theirs"

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Labour has always had a fair amount of arseholes regardless of the wingism applied or self applied.People-eh?

And I should know.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... um-seekers


Serco to pause plans to evict asylum seekers after Glasgow protests

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Labour has always had a fair amount of arseholes regardless of the wingism applied or self applied.People-eh?

And I should know.
In all seriousness, you're right
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/04/glasgow-protesters-rally-against-serco-plan-to-evict-asylum-seekers

Serco to pause plans to evict asylum seekers after Glasgow protests


Going back a few years the Scots were at times (at least) well ahead of the English in protesting 'actively' against the Atos application of those evil WCA 'assessments' .


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Final Say: Leading Conservative Brexiteers told to explain speeches showing they supported second referendum on final EU deal
Jacob Rees-Mogg and David Davis among MPs accused of ‘backtracking’ on previous support for further poll


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 77686.html

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Going back a few years the Scots were at times (at least) well ahead of the English in protesting 'actively' against the Atos application of those evil WCA 'assessments' .


Never mind going back a few years, the SNP have banned private contractors from making benefit assessments. It's part of their social security bill that was passed without opposition in April. Even the Tories voted for it. Unfortunately the devolved powers didn't allow them control over ESA or UC, but if you're applying for PIP in Scotland you'll see a doctor working for the state, not a 'health professional' looking to make money from other people's misery.


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Had an over the garden fence conversation today with my brother's neighbours who permanently fly an English flag and are strong Brexit supporters.

They're both in their late seventies, he's ex-forces and she blames immigrants for everything. To give one example from this afternoon she actually claimed the reason they couldn't get a decent gardener was because immigrants had taken all the gardening jobs and foreigners didn't understand British horticulture. This is in a place that has no immigrants, where you hear no foreign accents, where you see no shifty looking foreign types. And that's just one instance of her frankly insane nonsense. Yet she represents millions of people in this country, her outlook is the norm, not ours. Especially in places where immigration is minimal to nonexistent. It's infuriating to talk to such idiots but what am I supposed to do? I'm a guest here so can't just laugh in her face and tell her to fuck off. In the end I just tried to move the conversation on to talk about bees but she decided it was much more interesting to tell me how much money her daughter earned and how big her house was. And the neighbour on the other side is a recluse who spies on people with a telescope and never turns his lights off, even during the day. One of his upstairs windows broke a few years ago and he's never had it fixed so he now has birds nesting in his house. I've been watching sparrows going in and out. He does however, it appears, accept parcels, there was one of those royal mail cards when I arrived saying one had been left with him but he won't answer the door. I've been trying since Tuesday.

There's nothing like visiting rural Cheshire to remind you that maybe you're the sane one after all.


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https://www.parliament.uk/business/comm ... nch-17-19/


Benefit cap inquiry re-launched

The justifications/aims are just nonsense of course,not least because overwhelmingly not expected to work.9,300 "moved out of work" due to the benefit cap (more than left) according to the latest figures.And that's through gritted teeth not including scumbags that receive CA (though not all carers)or have a partner die.

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And you can be in work,they and the media lie.

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Mostly it's just useless journalism for the likes of the BBC.

Can you name me one BBC journalist you trust or respect?

After Paxman left for about a glorious week or two Newsnight had James O'Brien and Eddie Mair, then settled down to Evan (just shave your head dude) Davis and Emily (how the hell have I fluked this job) Maitlis.

And the radio is worse. I heard a presenter on radio 5 recently. A grown woman. Not know that the Sun wasn't a planet. And she had no idea why our seasons happen. A child should know this stuff. And yet there she is blathering on offering little pearls of her wisdom every fucking morning. No wonder this country has such a high concentration of fuckwits.


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Going back a few years the Scots were at times (at least) well ahead of the English in protesting 'actively' against the Atos application of those evil WCA 'assessments' .


Never mind going back a few years, the SNP have banned private contractors from making benefit assessments. It's part of their social security bill that was passed without opposition in April. Even the Tories voted for it. Unfortunately the devolved powers didn't allow them control over ESA or UC, but if you're applying for PIP in Scotland you'll see a doctor working for the state, not a 'health professional' looking to make money from other people's misery.

I didn't know the current situation, but had hopes, that is very good news !


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R4 tells me that TomWatson wants Labour to fold on the IHRA ‘internationally recognised’** definition , and then everything will be luvly .

Doesn’t he know the Israel Firsters intend to FOAD Corbyn ? (Though he+ his Team do seem to be assisting them rather well .)

** I love ‘internationally recognised’ ! It reminds me of my other propaganda favourite, so I’m just off to town to get some ‘military grade’ croissants and a baguette .


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Good morfternoon.

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Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro survives drone assassination attempt

President blames Colombia after aerial devices appeared to explode while he was making a speech to troops in Caracas (Guardian)


I've tried, but I can't help thinking that Leslie Nielsen is missing from the photo'.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/04/nicolas-maduros-speech-cut-short-while-soldiers-scatter


Oh - and still no news about the Theresa May\Emmanuel Macron meeting.


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"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"


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Mostly it's just useless journalism for the likes of the BBC.

Can you name me one BBC journalist you trust or respect?

After Paxman left for about a glorious week or two Newsnight had James O'Brien and Eddie Mair, then settled down to Evan (just shave your head dude) Davis and Emily (how the hell have I fluked this job) Maitlis.


Mishal Husain and Tina Daheley seem OK. But yeah, I'm struggling really.

Sorry to say that O'Brien has not impressed over this AS in Labour business.


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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/04/lebron-james-donald-trump-insult-melania-trump
"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"


From the article you link, two great quotes from leBron James:

"In September 2017, James called Trump a “bum” for rescinding his invitation to the Golden State Warriors to celebrate their basketball championship with a visit to the White House.

“Going to the White House was a great honor until you showed up!” James tweeted at the time."

and -

"When Lemon[ the CNN interviewer] asked: “What would you say to the President if he was sitting right here?” James said: “I would never sit across from him.”


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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/04/lebron-james-donald-trump-insult-melania-trump
"Melania Trump praises LeBron James in statement after husband insults him"

I was going to post that one, but had to go shopping :-)

There was another I liked about the Orange One exploding when her TV channel was switched to CNN !


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug, 2018 9:54 am 
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Sky'sGoneOut wrote:
Mostly it's just useless journalism for the likes of the BBC.

Can you name me one BBC journalist you trust or respect?

After Paxman left for about a glorious week or two Newsnight had James O'Brien and Eddie Mair, then settled down to Evan (just shave your head dude) Davis and Emily (how the hell have I fluked this job) Maitlis.

Mishal Husain and Tina Daheley seem OK. But yeah, I'm struggling really.
Sorry to say that O'Brien has not impressed over this AS in Labour business.

Mishal best for the mom on R4 I think.
The bbc's factchecking has either been non-existent or deliberately biased, as in the regular
" Livingston said "Hitler was a Zionist" " which he never did !
(Details at Jonathan Cook's site.)


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PostPosted: Sun 05 Aug, 2018 10:20 am 
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PTO ?????????????


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