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Why has BBC News got a discussion panel talking about the "upcoming election"?

Did they schedule it in before Johnson lost his vote on Wednesday and didn't have anything else to replace it with?

I mean, I know an election is becoming inevitable but they were talking like it's already underway :roll:

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Well there is going to be another election at *some* point (unless PM Johnson is even more of a dictator than in our worst imaginings) and "upcoming" is a rather flexible word ;)


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Yes, of course.

Not at all about laying the groundwork for acceptance of a deal between the Tories and the Brexit Party. That would just be cynical manipulation and not at all something our objective and impartial national broadcaster would cynically and manipulatively do.

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Well lots of Tories assure me there is not the slightest chance of any such deal - should I believe them? :twisted:


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Whether British public are right or not is irrelevant - polls suggesting higher trust for Johnson than Corbyn, given a) Johnson and b) this week - surely demand some kind of action?

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Whether British public are right or not is irrelevant - polls suggesting higher trust for Johnson than Corbyn, given a) Johnson and b) this week - surely demand some kind of action?


I think it demands that the British public take a much longer and harder look at Johnson before they are asked for their verdict in a GE. Until November 1st should do it. ;)

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Polls can often be lagging indicators in these things anyway.


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I find it disconcerting on several levels

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Hearing the first Labour triggering for deselection has taken place - Diana Johnson, popular Tribune MP who was backbencher of the year last year has been triggered for full reselection process with rivals standing against her


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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight.


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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight.


Was it this :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -and-leeds

Brexity counter demonstrators


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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight.


Was it this :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -and-leeds

Brexity counter demonstrators


It could well have been a related, break-away incident. The one I'm referring to took place on the approach to the cenotaph.

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John Mann has resigned from Labour to take up the post of antisemitism tsar with the Tories.

At least I think this is true....

Who knows these day?


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I'm trying to figure out how many Tory party MPs there are
I think there are only 289 of them

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https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and ... e-parties/


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It's a good title I'm sure given that no tars were ever even slightly antisemitic.


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PorFavor wrote:
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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight.


Was it this :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -and-leeds

Brexity counter demonstrators


It could well have been a related, break-away incident. The one I'm referring to took place on the approach to the cenotaph.

Thanks.



or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEl3TJJr6Q

ah no...the sun is shining - that's a few days ago.


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Was it this :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -and-leeds

Brexity counter demonstrators


It could well have been a related, break-away incident. The one I'm referring to took place on the approach to the cenotaph.

Thanks.[/quote]


or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEl3TJJr6Q

ah no...the sun is shining - that's a few days ago.[/quote]


It's cold enough to be already feeling as if it was a few months ago (the sun shining).


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Its been a nice day up here today.


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Its been a nice day up here today.


Good - but I'd advise you to enjoy it while you can!


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Well, looks like Amber Rudd has knocked John Mann off the lead headlines.......


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I'm thinking that Boris Johnson is (highly irresponsibly) trying to play the martyr - knowingly encouraging civil unrest.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Well, looks like Amber Rudd has knocked John Mann off the lead headlines.......


I gather she's resigned from the Cabinet.


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Well, looks like Amber Rudd has knocked John Mann off the lead headlines.......


I gather she's resigned from the Cabinet.


More dramatic than that, she's left the Tory party.

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Oh - and the Conservative whip. Is that the 17th LibDem that Gloria Swanson was hinting at, earlier?


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https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-07/amb ... s-johnson/

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Theresa May must be loving this :D

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Currently third story on Telegraph homepage. Move along, nothing to see here.

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I'm thinking that Boris Johnson is (highly irresponsibly) trying to play the martyr - knowingly encouraging civil unrest.


It'll be him and 'Tommy' inside together for contempt.

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Anna Soubry busily putting Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn in the same extremist bracket.


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Oh - and the Conservative whip. Is that the 17th LibDem that Gloria Swanson was hinting at, earlier?

I think that was "funny tinge" Angela Smith who has joined the Libs.


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Oh - and the Conservative whip. Is that the 17th LibDem that Gloria Swanson was hinting at, earlier?

I think that was "funny tinge" Angela Smith who has joined the Libs.

So they've taken the slightly racist one and the slightly homophobic one!?

(LDV have been wetting themselves with joy over this)


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Sajid Javid, on the Andrew Marr programme, was repeatedly side-stepping ruling out the Conservative Party joining forces with Nigel Farage.


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Oh - and the Conservative whip. Is that the 17th LibDem that Gloria Swanson was hinting at, earlier?

I think that was "funny tinge" Angela Smith who has joined the Libs.

So they've taken the slightly racist one and the slightly homophobic one!?

(LDV have been wetting themselves with joy over this)


Paid apologists for the private water industry are obviously their thing, then.


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Any views on No 10's proposed sabotage? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 95976.html

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Sajid Javid, on the Andrew Marr programme, was repeatedly side-stepping ruling out the Conservative Party joining forces with Nigel Farage.


If they do that, they can probably say goodbye to another few dozen Tory MPs.

Quite likely the same if they openly break the law re an A50 extension.

These things are not consequence free.


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Any views on No 10's proposed sabotage? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 95976.html


Well, I suppose it's a Plan B, of sorts.

I like to think that the EU has enough expertise at their disposal to scupper this (no doubt Dominic Cummings inspired) move without expending too much time and energy on it.



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Although, a "Brexit" backlash would, of course, be inevitable.


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And Macron?

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And Macron?


Good point. But I would hope that he would look at the wider picture, and seek to protect EU citizens (eg us, at present) from the likes of Boris Johnson.


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Democracy not feeling so democratic at the moment
In the long term - what's the solution/s?

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Macron postures about giving the UK extensions to the Brexit deadline for his domestic audience.

But with an early GE all but inevitable here, it is almost inconceivable that the EU won't at least wait and see what transpires.


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Brussels’ former top law officer has rubbished Boris Johnson’s extraordinary plan to sabotage the EU and make it ‘no longer legal’, arguing it makes no sense.


Wonder what all this is doing for our global reputation and future negotiating power.

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... ( and pto)

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