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Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 5:55 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:20 am
by refitman
Labour are going ahead with killing old people then

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:52 am
by Frog222
Thinking of Laura Loomer and Co, this gave me my first lol of the day --

Maga Catholics are on a collision course with Leo XIV - and they have good reason to fear him Julian Coman
They have been quick to brand the new pope an ‘anti-Trump’ ‘total Marxist’. In return, he is already critiquing their worldview
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... trump-anti

Learning new stuff every day :-) --
" The last Leo, a patrician Italian elected to the papacy in 1878, made it his mission to confront the ruthless laissez-faire economics unleashed by the Industrial Revolution and the emerging Marxist response to its cruelties. In Rerum Novarum, his groundbreaking 1891 papal encyclical, Leo XIII laid out swingeing criticisms of the greed that placed profit before people and allowed extreme divides in wealth to undermine the common good. At the same time, in terms that were to prove tragically prescient, he identified in early communist movements a dangerous idolatry of the state and a lack of respect for individual autonomy and rights."

And this insight --
" In Leo XIII’s day, the burgeoning Marxist movement incubated a totalitarian strain that would go viral in the 20th century. The success of Trumpian nationalism is also in part a response to the depredations of capitalism, this time in the context of globalisation. But its authoritarian evangelists have hijacked the working-class cause to inflict new injustices on migrant “invaders” and have lost sight of the need for global cooperation to prevent an environmental catastrophe that threatens the poor most of all. The strategy has proved electorally astute. But as Leo will surely make clear, it has nothing to do with Catholicism. "

Good stuff !

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:09 am
by Frog222
Behr on that culture war --

" They accuse Starmer of selling out British fishing fleets when the terms he has agreed are just the existing ones on a longer lease. So the continuity leave argument seems to be that even more of Johnson’s Brexit is a reversal of Brexit. These are not serious people. "

Does SKS also hate young people , seeing his refusal to come out fighting for them --

" The same conclusion has to be drawn from the allergic reaction to talk of a youth mobility scheme. The proposal for a dedicated 18-30s work permit would look much like the model already available to young Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders and South Koreans. But in the paranoid Brexit mind, any movement of European citizens to the UK – even if controlled with visas and limited by quotas – smells too much like the old free movement.

Failure (or, more likely, wilful refusal) to understand what is really being discussed here is dismal enough. The more dispiriting element is an inability to conceive of a world in which young British people might be grateful for an expanded right to travel and work on the continent.

When European officials first raised the prospect of youth mobility with Labour ministers, they pitched it as a mutual benefit – an obvious win-win. It was received instead as a demand, as if the privilege of living and working in Britain is a precious and exclusive mineral resource that Brussels wants to extract, and for which a price must be paid in concessions elsewhere. "

It's not only "young British people", Second Granddaughter was in the very last cohort of EU youth to profit from an Erasmus year . Psychology at Edge Hill Uni north of Liverpool, which I'd never heard of !

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:34 am
by gilsey
Good morning.

Re MAGA, did you see this?



:!:

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:57 am
by Frog222
gilsey wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 8:34 am Good morning.

Re MAGA, did you see this? :!:
Afraid so, nothing surprises any more !

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:58 am
by Frog222
Two years before my Ma at long last left her house overlooking Doubtless Bay, a starving cat came to her door . Ma was extremely frail, but not once did the little creature trip her up. When she went into the care home up the coast, Suzie came too . Both were very popular , Ma with her risqué sense of humour ...
After another two years my brother and her cousin told us not to come because it could drag on for some time ...
When the time came, in fact it wasn't long, Dynamic Daughter plotted travel times, c.30 hours from Paris ... but then my bro got the date wrong , and it didn't work out . It would have been good to meet the carers, who were there for the service .
Anyway Suzie went to live with one of the Maoris who lived across the bay from where Na was born and is buried .

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:05 am
by Frog222


That involved a ten mile run , for a start .

What is unusual is that Anne is a Chernobyl baby who was born with one leg, was adopted from a Polish orphanage by a Belgian family , and never ceases to surprise :-)

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:03 am
by Frog222
11° outside, raining gently, skiving . AKA taking it easy with my new blood !

Head level with the landing I could just see a little white face on the foot of my bed.

Sensible Boy :-)

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 4:46 pm
by refitman

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:10 pm
by refitman
Anything from the UK gov on this? Ireland have complained, haven't seen anything about a Labour statement.

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:30 pm
by Frog222
Scouse Wolfy 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🌿
@ScouseWolfy
·
13h
So McSweeney has finally woken up to the damage headed
@UKLabour
way, & is reaching out to tame client journos like
@DavidPBMaddox
to try & cover for
@Keir_Starmer
?
Problem is - Hansard shows JC has been consistently on right side
It’s Keith &
@DavidLammy
headed to The Hague

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:02 am
by Frog222

Re: Wednesday 21st May 2025

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:14 am
by Frog222