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Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:57 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 7:48 am
by Frog222
Morning ! first lol of the day --
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Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:51 am
by Frog222
Enjoyed this on the G front page for Farage , very neat --

Putin-loving free speech impostor

and the article has some more -- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... al-hearing

And for the New Greenie how about --

" Breast-enhancing Putin-lover" ?

From 35years ago I clearly remember many of us questioning the very existence of NATO -- one book on that was titled " Swords into ploughshares" , fine !

But NATO didn't cause Putin to order the 1999 apartment bombings and the subsequent scores of thousands of dead in the Second Chechen War .

For a start.

( much more to say on that :-) )

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:09 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
Thought Question Time might have been on tonight with the return of parliament but it's not back until the 18th.

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:15 pm
by Frog222
Sky'sGoneOut wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:09 am Thought Question Time might have been on tonight with the return of parliament but it's not back until the 18th.
BOO !

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:18 pm
by Frog222
Farage refusing interviews does not surprise, but are those who do still interview him scared of losing 'access' or what ... ?


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:27 pm
by Frog222
OUCH, or what ?



PS that's the first I've seen of him, quick take -- he gabbles and shows no sense of humour, but perhaps he's still learning ?

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:15 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
These are the scum Starmer is appeasing.


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:29 pm
by Frog222
Laughed at the first two minutes of this --



but must go out for a walk by the sea !

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:32 pm
by Frog222
From the linked article --
“Health databases have been something of a shared obsession between Blair and Ellison. While UK prime minister, the former attended a notorious Downing Street seminar on Monday 18 February 2002 at which Microsoft pitched the idea of a mega tech programme for the NHS, which became the £12 billion National Programme for IT. It was a disaster which was stopped early in 2011 and “did not deliver key benefits,” according to spending watchdog the National Audit Office…
https://togetherdeclaration.org/tony-blair-institute/





Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:58 pm
by refitman
Chef's kiss


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 3:01 pm
by refitman
Sky'sGoneOut wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:15 pm These are the scum Starmer is appeasing.

Ok a related note, this is who Streeting defends


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 6:33 pm
by Frog222

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 7:22 pm
by refitman
And this is the reason Linehan was in court today


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:31 pm
by Frog222
Lovely chap :-)

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:59 pm
by Frog222
The first time I've watched one of his vids, but he's accompanied by Caolan which is a guarantee .

A couple of minutes in the soldier says " I'm a Russian -speaker", as are so many others I've followed for years now .

So much for Putin coming to save him .


Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 10:01 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
I don't know if anyone else read this yesterday but it paints exactly the picture you would expect.

Looking for Labour’s lost voters

https://www.britishelectionstudy.com/un ... -lost-vote
Labour’s collapse in support since the 2024 General Election has been remarkable. Support for Labour has fallen more sharply after this election than it has for any other winning party covered by the BESIP. It’s still early in their term, and much could change, but these shifts are important because Labour’s large majority rests on historically narrow margins. Even small shifts in popularity could have major consequences at the next General Election.

Labour’s biggest losses have been to indecision. Over 1 in 5 of 2024 Labour voters now say that they either would not vote or that they don’t know which party they would vote for. This is noteworthy because many headline polls only show vote intentions for respondents who pick between the parties.

Labour have lost a further 27% of their support to rival political parties, with other left-liberal parties being the main beneficiaries (9% to the Liberal Democrats, 8% to the Greens, and smaller amounts elsewhere).

Labour have lost some support to Reform UK (8% of their 2024 electoral coalition), but the growth in support for Nigel Farage’s party has come mainly from other sources: 42% of Reform’s new supporters come from the Conservatives and 33% were non-voters in 2024, compared to only 16% who voted for Labour.

Labour faces more direct competition from the Liberal Democrats and Greens than it does Reform – at least in terms of maintaining its 2024 voter base. This is also true when it comes to winning back undecided voters, who are substantially more supportive of the Liberal Democrats and Greens than they are Reform or the Conservatives.

Labour’s losses are not spread evenly across the political spectrum. Figure 4 plots voting intentions by views on the four policy areas that have, so far, defined Labour’s time in office: immigration, welfare, national security, and taxation. In office, Labour’s leadership has shifted toward a tougher stance on immigration and welfare, raised defence spending, and (so far) not raised income tax rates. However, this strategy has placed the party at odds with most of its 2024 supporters. The greatest number of supporters lost are those who want more spending, oppose welfare cuts, and are (relatively) moderate on immigration, which represents the core of Labour’s 2024 voter base.

At the same time, this strategy has not helped Labour retain – or, indeed, win over – people that support their policies. Instead, rates of defection from Labour are highest among those who strongly oppose immigration and higher taxes. These losses are limited in number, given so few of (those?) people voted for Labour in 2024, but they underline the fact that Labour’s strategy has not succeeded on its own terms.

In short, Labour’s post-election slump is significant. Though Reform has taken Labour’s place at the top of the polls, it is not the case that the two parties are simply trading voters. Reform’s rise has for the most part come from the Conservatives and non-voters, whereas Labour’s support has splintered between indecision and other left-liberal parties. Labour’s efforts to attract support on the right have brought little reward and have potentially alienated much of their base (who make up most of Labour’s losses).

Re: Thursday 4th September 2025

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:06 pm
by Sky'sGoneOut
As for Linehan, imagine having the arrogance, the sheer egotistical hubris, to claim you're heroically fighting for the rights of your wife and daughter when they both repeatedly asked him to stop and when he refused divorced and disowned him. Imagine being such a champion of the fairer sex that you're prepared to ignore them, lose them from your life (along with your career) and go on a monomaniacal crusade tilting at trans windmills. In his own head he's the hero, he has to be, because like Don Quixote any appeal to sanity has to be ignored otherwise his entire delusional construct will come crashing down and he'll have to face the consequences of his actions.

Cervantes mocked this kind of obsessive lunacy 400 years ago and part of the genius of the book was giving Don Quixote his comedy squire Sancho Panza, a role Mr Linehan has sadly neglected to fill. I can just see Wes Streeting plodding along side him on a donkey looking permanently baffled but sticking with it for future gain. Sancho merely wanted an island to rule. I suspect Wes has more far reaching ambitions which will ultimately require him to be taken out by a crack squad of international assassins for the benefit of all humanity.

Seriously though. Don't pick on trans kids while ruining your life. It's not cool.