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Morning all.
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Good morning.


Been reading this after frog linked it last night, you do wonder how much is true but one thing to be certain of is that McSweeney is a snake.

https://archive.ph/w2sdo
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gilsey wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:06 am Good morning.


Been reading this after frog linked it last night, you do wonder how much is true but one thing to be certain of is that McSweeney is a snake.

https://archive.ph/w2sdo
Very diplomatically put :)

Some of it comes across as reasonably credible tbf.
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Credible indeed AK , quite a mystery man to the chroniclers !

This summed it up very well


Ambitious to be PM, definitely , but unclubbable and useless at politics apart from the occasional skullduggery stuff .

The middle paragraph here displays something Len McCluskey pointed out a few years ago --

"" Starmer was overcome by diffidence. He declined to chair his own meeting, deferring instead to Chapman’s husband Nick Smith. Starmer contributed tentatively to the discussions as if he was an invited guest and not their instigator. When he did speak he spoke not of his political vision but of tedious bureaucratic process.

“He made sure that notes were kept,” recalled one person present. “He wanted action points, for people to be accountable for what they said they’d do.” He did not say why he wished to lead the Labour Party, or what he wished to do with power, but preoccupied himself with the tedious minutiae of how to get there. “He wanted to be involved in things like trade union rules, the financial reporting rules, and what the election rules were going to be.”

When his advisers urged him to share the story of his troubled childhood, he thought it absurd. “You don’t go around telling everyone you’re middle class,” he told his spokesman, Ben Nunn. At one meeting, Nick Smith asked precisely what a toolmaker did. Unwilling to disinter his buried trauma, Starmer refused to elaborate. “Most people don’t know what a lathe is, Keir,” Smith snapped back. “So you’re going to have to explain.”"

DAMN !! I looked for a clip, and failed, it's somewhere in here


I'll have to paraphrase --

McCluskey " Starmer is a Process Person " .

So very good at precise arrangement of deckchairs ( on a beach or Titanic :-) ) , but zero vision, and of course zero charisma.
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McCluskey isn't the most trustworthy source either, mind. And could be in trouble with the law fairly soon.
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Is this a spoof time , again !

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Just perfect timing

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refitman wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:31 pm Just perfect timing
"" An announcement was pencilled in for December 14, 2023 at Chatham House in London. Initially Starmer’s office raised no objections. The plans were so advanced that Brown had booked travel and accommodation from Scotland to the capital.

The emails show that Morgan McSweeney, now Starmer’s chief of staff, gave the policy his backing. An adviser in Rayner’s team said he wanted to present the planned legislation as an attempt to stop people who don’t have “skin in the game” from “funnelling money in British democracy”.

However, a Labour official involved in discussions on the policy said the plans were abandoned after an intervention from Alli. “With a week to go Morgan pulled it … It turned out Waheed told Morgan to pull it, and so he did.” They said it was not clear why Alli intervened, and the peer did not respond to requests for comment.""

https://archive.ph/G83lR
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More, much much more, on the Power of Lord Alli
EXTRACT
The trouble with Lord Alli, the man with the money

https://archive.ph/W528t
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Re: Monday 3rd February 2025

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When will Starmer stab the EU in the back ?

'WHEN' rather !

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Ha!
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I've been up to Newcastle today for the funeral of an old friend. He was a splendid fellow, a musician who played with a bunch of bands, turning up with his Moog synth and making them sound better. From hardcore industrial noise to psych rock to techno he could turn his hand to anything, and for most of the time I knew him you'd hardly see him for months as he'd be off touring round Europe bleeping and swooshing. He died age 55 of thrombosis. A blood clot in his leg that came completely out of the blue. Found sitting in front of the TV by the police after his work raised the alarm.

So the turnout was interesting, his family in suits and ties and all that impeccable mourning gear, then us his friends, a bunch of scruffy old punks, goths, and hippies. Some of whom even I hadn't seen for 20 years.

Two things stood out.

First he got to have his own music played at his funeral and a couple of the tracks were cracking electro psychedelia which had me smiling and bobbing my head along.

And second his cousin, a lovely lady, stood up in the pub afterwards and gave an impromptu impassioned short speech imploring us all not to live our lives online and to have real, meaningful relationships with our friends and family rather than pissing about on Facebook or the like thinking that was an acceptable alternative to genuine human contact.

Later I gave her a hug and offered to buy her a drink after we'd decamped to a tiny bar that when I lived in Newcastle was a boutique hippie clothes shop, she asked for a double G&T. Guess how much it cost? £14.49. I made a point of getting the receipt such was my incredulous disbelief.
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Although as a counterpoint to my dead friend's cousin out of all of you I've met Mr Hindle, who subsequently died, Citizen JA, who fuck knows what's happened to her, and PorFavor who's ended up in a nursing home.
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