Thursday 14th July 2016
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Thursday 14th July 2016
Morning all.
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Good piece by Owen Jones on Labour.
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Defence companies and MOD’s procurement agency ‘failing’ contract regulations
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Defence companies and MOD’s procurement agency ‘failing’ contract regulations
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Morning.
Have woken up in a Carry On film, a world where Boris Johnson is deemed fit to be Foreign Secretary.
At least Hague and Hammond had some gravitas.
Have woken up in a Carry On film, a world where Boris Johnson is deemed fit to be Foreign Secretary.
At least Hague and Hammond had some gravitas.
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Radio 4 had a piece with a Labour member, whose family has donated over £400,000, who is launching legal action to overturn the NEC's ruling.
He claims it is nothing to do with politics, or the fact he didn't vote for Corbyn.
He claims it is nothing to do with politics, or the fact he didn't vote for Corbyn.
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It is someone called Michael Foster
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Labour won't split if Jeremy Corbyn wins - the rebels will fight him again
Rather than founding a new party, the leader's opponents are planning a war of attrition.
Labour won't split if Jeremy Corbyn wins - the rebels will fight him again
Rather than founding a new party, the leader's opponents are planning a war of attrition.
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Here's an idea, how about they fight a war of attrition against the Tories ?
Just a suggestion, you never know, it might even work.
Just a suggestion, you never know, it might even work.
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On why there will be no split (and Labou's future)
I agree
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... -him-again" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What is amusing about that Jones piece is that he has clearly known from the start that Corbyn is not up to being leader, and supported him on the basis that he would 'do a Sanders'.
I agree
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... -him-again" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What is amusing about that Jones piece is that he has clearly known from the start that Corbyn is not up to being leader, and supported him on the basis that he would 'do a Sanders'.
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Boris in charge of M16
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Good morning all.
Handy ready reckoner for anyone going on holiday to Europe this summer.
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Handy ready reckoner for anyone going on holiday to Europe this summer.
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I'm more concerned by the expected interest rate cut.
Maybe the penny will drop for Brexit voters who rely on savings to top up their pensions.
Maybe the penny will drop for Brexit voters who rely on savings to top up their pensions.
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Seems that our senior Brexit negotiator doesn't realise that EU states can't make their own, independent trade deals with non-EU members:
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I thought i had an idea, that someone could make a random quote generator. Googled it & found it had already been done: (apologies if has been linked to before)yahyah wrote:Morning.
Have woken up in a Carry On film, a world where Boris Johnson is deemed fit to be Foreign Secretary.
At least Hague and Hammond had some gravitas.
http://www.fandmpublications.co.uk/page ... nquote.htm
This year we've had a vote for "BoatyMcBoatFace"I’m like a greased panther, a coiled spring, all that suppressed kinetic energy down with the ethnics. Portsmouth is too full of drugs, obesity, underachievement, people come to see their MP they have run out of better ideas.
ignored because it would make the UK look silly,
A referendum which is basically a total cock up, but must be followed because it will make us a shining beacon for the world.
And now Boris for foreign secretary (Boris ffs?)
A man who could compete Dennis Thatcher and The Duke of Edinburgh for diplomatic inappropiateness.
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Good morfternoon.
So. That thing about Boris Johnson. It wasn't a dream, then?
I see that the media is mining the archives for damning and embarrassing Boris Johnson utterences. I thought he was wonderful? The media has much to answer for. Power without responsibility to the nth degree.
So. That thing about Boris Johnson. It wasn't a dream, then?
I see that the media is mining the archives for damning and embarrassing Boris Johnson utterences. I thought he was wonderful? The media has much to answer for. Power without responsibility to the nth degree.
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Maybe it is a Machiavellian move from May. Let him self destruct in full international view.
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Could be a way of trying to keep him out of the domestic sphere. But I think it has the potential for misfiring badly.yahyah wrote:Maybe it is a Machiavellian move from May. Let him self destruct in full international view.
And Liam Fox? Who said TTIP was a receding threat? It's now more likely than it ever was before, given that the EU was showing signs of fighting shy of it.
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I suppose she can remove him quickly if he proves a liability, but it would make her judgement look poor,yahyah wrote:Maybe it is a Machiavellian move from May. Let him self destruct in full international view.
although that never seemed to hurt Cameron.
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Victoria Derbyshire just asked Angela Eagle what policies would seperate her from Corbyn. She said we need to be more anti-austerity.
That's it I'm sold.
That's it I'm sold.
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The Guardian have it here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... hip-ballotyahyah wrote:It is someone called Michael Foster
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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She's obviously learnt from the monstering Andrew Neill gave her at the weekendTobyLatimer wrote:Victoria Derbyshire just asked Angela Eagle what policies would seperate her from Corbyn. She said we need to be more anti-austerity.
That's it I'm sold.
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That won't workpala wrote:The Guardian have it here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... hip-ballotyahyah wrote:It is someone called Michael Foster
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And so I wake up and I take a look at this strange new world we've collectively wandered into, and last night's optimism about this being the chance to renew things turns into ashes. Everybody's going to do their damnedest to keep fighting old and worthless battles, bald men (and women) will still scrap asininely for combs, and we'll wrap gaffer tape around the most broken of things and try to keep it all as it was.
And it's not even as if I was drunk last night.
And it's not even as if I was drunk last night.
The truth ferret speaks!
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Morning all.
Interesting...
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Michael Gove will not be offered a government job, I understand. He'll be off to the backbenches. With George. And Dave.
Complete clearout of the past decade then.
Some people are putting Liz Truss in at Education - I really hope not. Total airhead. Obsessed with Maths, textbooks, and maths textbooks. And knows nothing else.
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Michael Gove will not be offered a government job, I understand. He'll be off to the backbenches. With George. And Dave.
Complete clearout of the past decade then.
Some people are putting Liz Truss in at Education - I really hope not. Total airhead. Obsessed with Maths, textbooks, and maths textbooks. And knows nothing else.
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Bora Da Yah Yah,yahyah wrote:Morning.
Have woken up in a Carry On film, a world where Boris Johnson is deemed fit to be Foreign Secretary.
At least Hague and Hammond had some gravitas.
Surely its more like some nightmare version of Top Gear. With May and Hammond already installed all we need (God Forbid) is a Clarkson!
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Thanks - that's useful. ( you might want to take that 'r' out of infelicitously though...)SpinningHugo wrote:That won't workpala wrote:The Guardian have it here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... hip-ballotyahyah wrote:It is someone called Michael Foster
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I think I've just fallen in love with Angela Eagle. The footage of her at the start of this Graun article on the world reacting to Johnson is priceless. As is the rest of the article.
Theresa May has just completely torpedoed any reputation she - and the UK - may have had globally within her first few hours on the job. That has to be a record, surely? I mean, her appointment is being praised by Grant Shapps' cloning-experiment-gone-horribly-horribly-wrong Tony Abbott. Quite possibly the stupidest politician on Earth, and willing to demonstrate it at all times.
I can imagine it now:
President Serious Country: "Hello Ms. May, let's start our incredibly serious negotiations that are vital to the future of both our countries"
May: "Of course. Here's our best clown to represent us."
President Serious Country: "I'm sorry but... wtf? Are you serious?"
Gaaaahhh! What has she done? What was she thinking?
Theresa May has just completely torpedoed any reputation she - and the UK - may have had globally within her first few hours on the job. That has to be a record, surely? I mean, her appointment is being praised by Grant Shapps' cloning-experiment-gone-horribly-horribly-wrong Tony Abbott. Quite possibly the stupidest politician on Earth, and willing to demonstrate it at all times.
I can imagine it now:
President Serious Country: "Hello Ms. May, let's start our incredibly serious negotiations that are vital to the future of both our countries"
May: "Of course. Here's our best clown to represent us."
President Serious Country: "I'm sorry but... wtf? Are you serious?"
Gaaaahhh! What has she done? What was she thinking?
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Thanks.SpinningHugo wrote:That won't workpala wrote:The Guardian have it here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... hip-ballotyahyah wrote:It is someone called Michael Foster
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36791782" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Is infelicitoursly a legal term?
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Hammond confirms Britain will leave the Single Market following Brexit
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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
So. That thing about Boris Johnson. It wasn't a dream, then?
I see that the media is mining the archives for damning and embarrassing Boris Johnson utterences. I thought he was wonderful? The media has much to answer for. Power without responsibility to the nth degree.
The international reaction to Boris' appointment :
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... n-minister" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yers - but it's cromplicated.tinybgoat wrote:Thanks.SpinningHugo wrote:That won't workpala wrote: The Guardian have it here: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... hip-ballot
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As with so much else of the rulebook, this is infelicitoursly drafted. However, a natural reading of those words is that in case of dispute as to the meaning of the rules, it is for the NEC to decide on the correct interpretation. The purpose of this power is to keep disputes out of court.
Is infelicitoursly a legal term?
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Johnson in the Cabinet gives May something she would not have if Johnson were outside the Cabinet.
He will, in theory, be bound by Cabinet collective responsibility. If, in practice, he ploughs his own furrow as usual he can then be sacked for letting the country down and breaching collective responsibility while in a very senior government position. Which would, under normal circumstances, undermine Johnson and see his press and media support fade away.
Unfortunately the circumstances are not normal....
He will, in theory, be bound by Cabinet collective responsibility. If, in practice, he ploughs his own furrow as usual he can then be sacked for letting the country down and breaching collective responsibility while in a very senior government position. Which would, under normal circumstances, undermine Johnson and see his press and media support fade away.
Unfortunately the circumstances are not normal....
I'm getting tired of calming down....
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Is nobody suggesting that the BoJoFoSo appointment was a stitch-up by Boris when he stepped out of the leadership race?
Hmm I could end up being PM here, which looks far too much like a real job. If I ask Theresa, maybe she'll make me Foreign Secretary in return for standing down so I can prance around the world drinking fine wine.
Hmm I could end up being PM here, which looks far too much like a real job. If I ask Theresa, maybe she'll make me Foreign Secretary in return for standing down so I can prance around the world drinking fine wine.
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Open Democracy:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/bart-c ... 8E.twitter
We knew this already but it's good to have it laid out as clearly as this.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/bart-c ... 8E.twitter
We knew this already but it's good to have it laid out as clearly as this.
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It's all very well thinking the Bullingdon Boys are no longer in charge, and I get the idea that May is working on the 'you broke it, you fix it' rule - Davies in charge of negotiating terms of exit seems sensible - but really, putting Johnson at the Foreign Office is just playing silly games - both with him and with the rest of the Tory party, and with the country and the rest of the world. Although I guess it rules out Gove staying in Government at all. Maybe she can make him an old fashioned lord chancellor and send him to the lords.
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I thought your comment last night was spot on and tried to copy it here for today. Failed though, since I can't master copy/paste on a tablet. I mourn the death of the relationship between the Labour party and the Labour movement but see no way to fix what feels like a structural chasm. I take note of AK's argument that there needs to be a connecting space created between those PLP members and the CLPs that will seek to bring the two elements together but see little indication that those PLP members understand that the breakdown is two way.mbc1955 wrote:And so I wake up and I take a look at this strange new world we've collectively wandered into, and last night's optimism about this being the chance to renew things turns into ashes. Everybody's going to do their damnedest to keep fighting old and worthless battles, bald men (and women) will still scrap asininely for combs, and we'll wrap gaffer tape around the most broken of things and try to keep it all as it was.
And it's not even as if I was drunk last night.
I'm stuck on TE's description of party members as oddball because they are politically active and engaged - to my mind an arid image of democracy. (That was a couple of weeks ago when I asked what he thought being a member entailed, with apologies for not responding at the time but to address the points he raised I started an, as yet unfinished article!)
Anyway I believe an active, vibrant democracy needs politically engaged and informed people across the spectrum and that means we need to find ways to fight against the misinformation, self serving lack of accountability and elitist party and media systems that have bought the current system. I don't see any plaster big enough to fix those wounds at the moment.
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"Presumably PM just wrote F. Off next to Bojo's name and some civil servant misinterpreted it."
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Forgot morning all
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TTIP or something like it may be MORE likely for the UK than for the EU. The treasury committee have been listening to experts as to our optionsPorFavor wrote:Could be a way of trying to keep him out of the domestic sphere. But I think it has the potential for misfiring badly.yahyah wrote:Maybe it is a Machiavellian move from May. Let him self destruct in full international view.
And Liam Fox? Who said TTIP was a receding threat? It's now more likely than it ever was before, given that the EU was showing signs of fighting shy of it.
http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/cb ... 14e3dbdf0b" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 5th July
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adam wrote:Although I guess it rules out Gove staying in Government at all.
Michael Gove has been sacked as justice secretary, the BBC is reporting.
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And NiMo by the sound of it.
Anyone but Truss or Nick Gibb - he'd be a disaster.
Anyone but Truss or Nick Gibb - he'd be a disaster.
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There isn't a problem with the Labour Party. There is a problem with the pillocks in charge of it, left and right.fedup59 wrote:I thought your comment last night was spot on and tried to copy it here for today. Failed though, since I can't master copy/paste on a tablet. I mourn the death of the relationship between the Labour party and the Labour movement but see no way to fix what feels like a structural chasm. I take note of AK's argument that there needs to be a connecting space created between those PLP members and the CLPs that will seek to bring the two elements together but see little indication that those PLP members understand that the breakdown is two way.mbc1955 wrote:And so I wake up and I take a look at this strange new world we've collectively wandered into, and last night's optimism about this being the chance to renew things turns into ashes. Everybody's going to do their damnedest to keep fighting old and worthless battles, bald men (and women) will still scrap asininely for combs, and we'll wrap gaffer tape around the most broken of things and try to keep it all as it was.
And it's not even as if I was drunk last night.
I'm stuck on TE's description of party members as oddball because they are politically active and engaged - to my mind an arid image of democracy. (That was a couple of weeks ago when I asked what he thought being a member entailed, with apologies for not responding at the time but to address the points he raised I started an, as yet unfinished article!)
Anyway I believe an active, vibrant democracy needs politically engaged and informed people across the spectrum and that means we need to find ways to fight against the misinformation, self serving lack of accountability and elitist party and media systems that have bought the current system. I don't see any plaster big enough to fix those wounds at the moment.
I know I'm a stuck record, but the policy differences across the party are minuscule, with the exception of Trident (which will soon be out of the way anyway) and foreign policy.
Why can't they just stop shouting at each other, get together and figure it out? Focus on where we want Labour to be in 2020 and stop worrying about who's going to be in charge of what tomorrow. Who really knows what Corbyn wants beyond ending an interventionist foreign policy. How long does he want to lead for? What does his legacy look like? I'm not anywhere near well-informed enough to know what the solutions are. But there must be some.
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Nicky Morgan has been sacked.
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Rafael Behr @rafaelbehr 23s24 seconds ago
Gove could now take Boris's column slot at the Telegraph.
Gove could now take Boris's column slot at the Telegraph.
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Yep, she's gone
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Disappointed not to be continuing as Education Secretary & Min for Women & Equalities - two wonderful roles it's been a privilege to hold
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SATs disaster this year hasn't helped.
Nicky Morgan @NickyMorgan01 13s14 seconds ago
Disappointed not to be continuing as Education Secretary & Min for Women & Equalities - two wonderful roles it's been a privilege to hold
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SATs disaster this year hasn't helped.
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David Davies's piece for Conservative home is linked to in the graun - it's here (xx'd out as a link to conservative home - replace with tt)-
hxxp://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/ ... itain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- and he still seems to be running with the idea 'German Car Industry' argument, that Europe will not want complicated trading relationships with us, and still seems to be ignoring the fact that these desires are not absolute but are relative - European governments are going to be balancing the desire to do the best they can for their industries against the considerable downsides of the EU collapsing if other nationalists see us leaving as a productive and viable option.
And even more than that, with Germany in particular, and with Germany in its place in the EU driving seat particularly, it ignores all of the political, moral and cultural significance modern Germany attaches to the European project. Every other European government, and the German government in particular, want to be able to talk to any other Leave movement and say 'Are you sure? Look what happened to the UK'.
hxxp://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/ ... itain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- and he still seems to be running with the idea 'German Car Industry' argument, that Europe will not want complicated trading relationships with us, and still seems to be ignoring the fact that these desires are not absolute but are relative - European governments are going to be balancing the desire to do the best they can for their industries against the considerable downsides of the EU collapsing if other nationalists see us leaving as a productive and viable option.
And even more than that, with Germany in particular, and with Germany in its place in the EU driving seat particularly, it ignores all of the political, moral and cultural significance modern Germany attaches to the European project. Every other European government, and the German government in particular, want to be able to talk to any other Leave movement and say 'Are you sure? Look what happened to the UK'.
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But they can't. That's the long and the short of it and that's why it's now far better to phoenix-from-the-ashes with something new than to scrabble around in the ashes pretending they can somehow transform back into the wood that used to make a heary, warming fire.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:There isn't a problem with the Labour Party. There is a problem with the pillocks in charge of it, left and right.fedup59 wrote:I thought your comment last night was spot on and tried to copy it here for today. Failed though, since I can't master copy/paste on a tablet. I mourn the death of the relationship between the Labour party and the Labour movement but see no way to fix what feels like a structural chasm. I take note of AK's argument that there needs to be a connecting space created between those PLP members and the CLPs that will seek to bring the two elements together but see little indication that those PLP members understand that the breakdown is two way.mbc1955 wrote:And so I wake up and I take a look at this strange new world we've collectively wandered into, and last night's optimism about this being the chance to renew things turns into ashes. Everybody's going to do their damnedest to keep fighting old and worthless battles, bald men (and women) will still scrap asininely for combs, and we'll wrap gaffer tape around the most broken of things and try to keep it all as it was.
And it's not even as if I was drunk last night.
I'm stuck on TE's description of party members as oddball because they are politically active and engaged - to my mind an arid image of democracy. (That was a couple of weeks ago when I asked what he thought being a member entailed, with apologies for not responding at the time but to address the points he raised I started an, as yet unfinished article!)
Anyway I believe an active, vibrant democracy needs politically engaged and informed people across the spectrum and that means we need to find ways to fight against the misinformation, self serving lack of accountability and elitist party and media systems that have bought the current system. I don't see any plaster big enough to fix those wounds at the moment.
I know I'm a stuck record, but the policy differences across the party are minuscule, with the exception of Trident (which will soon be out of the way anyway) and foreign policy.
Why can't they just stop shouting at each other, get together and figure it out? Focus on where we want Labour to be in 2020 and stop worrying about who's going to be in charge of what tomorrow. Who really knows what Corbyn wants beyond ending an interventionist foreign policy. How long does he want to lead for? What does his legacy look like? I'm not anywhere near well-informed enough to know what the solutions are. But there must be some.
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Truss. Would. Be. A. Disgrace.RogerOThornhill wrote:And NiMo by the sound of it.
Anyone but Truss or Nick Gibb - he'd be a disaster.
Seriously, I really can't bear that woman. I bet she was furious when NiMo originally got the job and she got the DEFRA gig. I suspect the only reason Morgan was picked was because of her 'mum at the school gates' demeanour. They might as well had picked some random woman at the school gate for all the expertise and knowledge she brought to the job. She was basically Gove's ventriloquist dummy.
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Richard Vaughan @RichardVaughan1 39s39 seconds ago
Strong rumours that @JustineGreening is in line for education secretary following @NickyMorgan01's sacking
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Wouldn't mind this at all - pretty competent and non-ideological.
Strong rumours that @JustineGreening is in line for education secretary following @NickyMorgan01's sacking
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Wouldn't mind this at all - pretty competent and non-ideological.
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Re: Thursday 14th July 2016
John Wittingdale sacked, Strictly Come Dancing breathes a sigh of relief.