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Thursday 6th November 2014
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Labour MPs’ attacks on Miliband are ‘political insanity’, warns Blunkett
Former home secretary tells party: ‘When standing on a cliff, it is unwise to believe that by jumping you will learn to fly’
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But Watt still manages to turn it into negative towards the end
Former home secretary tells party: ‘When standing on a cliff, it is unwise to believe that by jumping you will learn to fly’
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But Watt still manages to turn it into negative towards the end
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Parliamentary Inquiry into the sanction regime,specifically outwith the remit of the Oakley whitewash,sorry review
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Paul Krishnamurty @spikeisland100 31m31 minutes ago
Even arch ed miliband critic @JohnRentoul is querying BBC neutrality over this plot rumour non-story.
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I still don't!seeingclearly wrote:Thank you, Tubby. You don't know how illuminating that post is. But thanks again.Tubby Isaacs wrote:This leadership crisis seems to be based on somebody called Harrop, from the Fabian Society.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Paul Krishnamurty @spikeisland100 31m31 minutes ago
Even arch ed miliband critic @JohnRentoul is querying BBC neutrality over this plot rumour non-story.
It's the top story on the BBC news app. Yes, seriously.
Also, why is McBride complaining extrapolated as "the mood in the party is pretty black "?
Contrast that with the results of the EAW and R+S vote.
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Labour Policies @LabourPolicies · 6h6 hours ago
Labour will end the Tory practice of forcing the unemployed to work for no wage, otherwise known as Workfare
Labour will end the Tory practice of forcing the unemployed to work for no wage, otherwise known as Workfare
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stefanstern @stefanstern 43s43 seconds ago
New BBC housestyle: some = two?
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Labour Policies
@LabourPolicies
This account will only provide Official Labour Party Policies, as announced by the Labour Shadow Cabinet.
Worth following
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@LabourPolicies
This account will only provide Official Labour Party Policies, as announced by the Labour Shadow Cabinet.
Worth following
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Thankyou.AngryAsWell wrote:Labour Policies
@LabourPolicies
This account will only provide Official Labour Party Policies, as announced by the Labour Shadow Cabinet.
Worth following
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I really like 'Labour will create a State Rail Firm & instruct it to bid for all Rail Franchises tendered from 2015 to 2020,bringing them into public ownership'
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Look at this shit. From the Sun trial.
Lots of the public think this NI stuff is all over and done with.Earlier, the jury was told that one journalist had used the phrase “senior police source” to dress up stories and aggrandise himself in the eyes of his bosses and readers. Jamie Pyatt, 51, told police he had never paid police officers and that the phrase “senior police source” was just a euphemism.
In a police interview made under caution and read to the court, Pyatt, the Sun’s Thames Valley reporter for 25 years, told officers: “Everybody uses it to make it look like they have got somebody on the inside track.
“We are trying to make ourselves look as if we are so inside the story so the reader thinks, ‘Oh he’s done well’. The phrase was to ‘dress it up’, to make [the story] look a lot stronger than what you have got.”
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Andy Coulson Perjury Proceedings (Scotland) – An update
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Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 32s33 seconds ago
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one
CON 32%
LAB 33%
LD 8%
UKIP 15%
GRN 7%
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one
CON 32%
LAB 33%
LD 8%
UKIP 15%
GRN 7%
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Some bloke I engaged with on Twitter kept saying "Labour are on 29". I didn't think at the time, but he was bullshitting.
Wouldn't be surprised if Miliband'd poll rating went up as well next time.
Wouldn't be surprised if Miliband'd poll rating went up as well next time.
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It's all they've [the media] have been banging on about this week. Norman Smith mentioned it specifically in the report played during PM this evening.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Some bloke I engaged with on Twitter kept saying "Labour are on 29". I didn't think at the time, but he was bullshitting.
Wouldn't be surprised if Miliband'd poll rating went up as well next time.
1 bloody poll!
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And all done while working at Number 10.AngryAsWell wrote:Andy Coulson Perjury Proceedings (Scotland) – An update
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No mention of the times, and there has been, of when the Tories have been on 29% I bet?refitman wrote:It's all they've [the media] have been banging on about this week. Norman Smith mentioned it specifically in the report played during PM this evening.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Some bloke I engaged with on Twitter kept saying "Labour are on 29". I didn't think at the time, but he was bullshitting.
Wouldn't be surprised if Miliband'd poll rating went up as well next time.
1 bloody poll!
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29, they wish. Didn't they drop even lower at one point.letsskiptotheleft wrote:No mention of the times, and there has been, of when the Tories have been on 29% I bet?refitman wrote:It's all they've [the media] have been banging on about this week. Norman Smith mentioned it specifically in the report played during PM this evening.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Some bloke I engaged with on Twitter kept saying "Labour are on 29". I didn't think at the time, but he was bullshitting.
Wouldn't be surprised if Miliband'd poll rating went up as well next time.
1 bloody poll!
Release the Guardvarks.
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They won't want useless Ed Miliband's Labour votes to save them from their backbenchers on the EAW, I take it.
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I hope his 'normally very helpful LAB inside source' has gone quiet because they've realised they need to help their party rather than pollsters ... And that it stays that way.Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 52m 52 minutes ago
My normally very helpful LAB inside source has gone quiet on me. Interesting
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 54m 54 minutes ago
Times says Cooper and Burnham have formed a non aggression pact should Miliband leave. So which would it be? My guess Yvette
And if there were to be any substance or actuality to the Cooper leadership .... I would be an ex Labour member faster than I can put my shoes on.
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This is basically cretinous stuff from Smithson. The Labour Party cannot just appoint a leader, there is a process, Cooper has no chance with the membership.rebeccariots2 wrote:I hope his 'normally very helpful LAB inside source' has gone quiet because they've realised they need to help their party rather than pollsters ... And that it stays that way.Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 52m 52 minutes ago
My normally very helpful LAB inside source has gone quiet on me. Interesting
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 54m 54 minutes ago
Times says Cooper and Burnham have formed a non aggression pact should Miliband leave. So which would it be? My guess Yvette
And if there were to be any substance or actuality to the Cooper leadership .... I would be an ex Labour member faster than I can put my shoes on.
Release the Guardvarks.
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Survation have Con on 27, UKIP on 24.
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Ouch.....Tubby Isaacs wrote:Survation have Con on 27, UKIP on 24.
Release the Guardvarks.
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No idea if the Elle magazine suggestion was followed up but I have tweeted Elle magazine tonight:
Will post a reply if/when I get one.@ELLEUK Seeing as @Ed_Miliband supported your #feminist campaign, why not approach him for an exclusive interview ? @LucyMPowell
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@Tubby: Where is that poll please?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Survation have Con on 27, UKIP on 24.
This time, I'm gonna be stronger I'm not giving in...
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Daily MirrorLadyCentauria wrote:@Tubby: Where is that poll please?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Survation have Con on 27, UKIP on 24.
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That latest Survation poll result for the Mirror ... taken from linked article below
Conservatives on 27% (down 4 points on last month)
Labour on 31% (no change)
Lib Dems on 9% (+2)
UKIP on 24% (-1).
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed ... ip-4583655
Conservatives on 27% (down 4 points on last month)
Labour on 31% (no change)
Lib Dems on 9% (+2)
UKIP on 24% (-1).
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed ... ip-4583655
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Oh FFS !
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Look at that cover. Useless Miliband! Good old Tories opening a grammar school!
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Thanks pk1 and RR2! I was searching the Survation site for it.
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I like the sound of some of this.Ed Miliband aides bid to disarm critics amid talk of Labour leadership crisis
Alarm over loss of votes in Scotland and polling concerns prompt pledge to allow frontbenchers to ‘speak more freely’
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... leadership
There has also been a long period of strategic soul searching inside the leader’s office, culminating in Miliband determining that he must stay closer to his beliefs and instincts...
Powell, who was appointed Labour election vice-chair, dismissed talk of plots against Miliband and expressed confidence that Labour could win the election.
She told the Guardian: “It is about changing times. In elections gone by we very much focused on everybody being on message. The new political world and the new political reality demands that people speak more freely with their own voice and articulate their own agendas. That is the perspective I want to bring to the job as well.”
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Tories plan to deny EU migrants out of work benefits under UC
The article is all over the place with this one,with mentions of Working Tax credits.
Tories plan to deny EU migrants out of work benefits under UC
The article is all over the place with this one,with mentions of Working Tax credits.
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Well the good news from this is that even the most sour bods on Newsnight, This Week, the news etc recognised that Ed isn't going anywhere - and all mentioned that this had to be compared with / put alongside the real hatred for Cameron amongst his backbenchers.pk1 wrote:Oh FFS !
And that Ed has already made some moves to change things with the reshuffle to bolster the team generally and his own support system.
And - from the above tweets - from the article in the Guardian - and Dianne Abbott's performance on This Week (yes really) - it is clear that most of the Labour party machine are realising that if they allow themselves to go off into the same stupid bloody constant whingeing and sniping wars as witnessed in the run up to the last election - it's curtains. And they have started to pull themselves together.
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Good. A cull is needed, as well as a few words said to the BBC about the future if this is how they're going to act if Labour regain power. I never used to favour its disposal, but if those fuckers carry on as an adjunct to Sky, I'll be happy to cut them adrift.rebeccariots2 wrote:Well the good news from this is that even the most sour bods on Newsnight, This Week, the news etc recognised that Ed isn't going anywhere - and all mentioned that this had to be compared with / put alongside the real hatred for Cameron amongst his backbenchers.pk1 wrote:Oh FFS !
And that Ed has already made some moves to change things with the reshuffle to bolster the team generally and his own support system.
And - from the above tweets - from the article in the Guardian - and Dianne Abbott's performance on This Week (yes really) - it is clear that most of the Labour party machine are realising that if they allow themselves to go off into the same stupid bloody constant whingeing and sniping wars as witnessed in the run up to the last election - it's curtains. And they have started to pull themselves together.