Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Tuesday 22nd November 2016
Morning all.
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Morning.
There's a case being heard at Cardiff Crown Court, if true the allegations show how far payday loan sharks will go to protect their businesses.
The owner of a ''predator'' payday loan company allegedly hired computer hackers to take down a consumer protection website that published complaints from his customers.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... i-12206958" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's a case being heard at Cardiff Crown Court, if true the allegations show how far payday loan sharks will go to protect their businesses.
The owner of a ''predator'' payday loan company allegedly hired computer hackers to take down a consumer protection website that published complaints from his customers.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... i-12206958" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Good morfternoon.
[quote]No 10 rejects Trump's call for Farage to be UK ambassador to the US - Politics live (Guardian)/quote]
On today's Guardian front page.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live
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Or, alternatively
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nald-trump
[quote]No 10 rejects Trump's call for Farage to be UK ambassador to the US - Politics live (Guardian)/quote]
On today's Guardian front page.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live
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Or, alternatively
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nald-trump
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Ah, it's a good day for popcorn sales.
Let's see how the strong May reacts when constantly asked about Farage. Nigel at the state banquet as a prerequisite to a Trump visit?
Morning all.
Let's see how the strong May reacts when constantly asked about Farage. Nigel at the state banquet as a prerequisite to a Trump visit?
Morning all.
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As the saying goes - if you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.StephenDolan wrote:Ah, it's a good day for popcorn sales.
Let's see how the strong May reacts when constantly asked about Farage. Nigel at the state banquet as a prerequisite to a Trump visit?
Morning all.
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The Electoral Commission has launched an investigation into Ukip over whether it got “impermissible” donations from the ADDE group in Europe. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Laura Kuenssberg – Verified account @bbclaurak
How's that running commentary going? Leader of biggest group in euro parly says David Davis told him govt wants to stay in single market
How's that running commentary going? Leader of biggest group in euro parly says David Davis told him govt wants to stay in single market
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A WAKE-UP CALL FOR LIBERAL BREXITERS
http://www.cer.org.uk/publications/arch ... -brexiters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Brexiters ......................... implicit assumption was that the US would continue to provide the security umbrella that makes peace and prosperity possible. The election of Donald Trump has undermined the premises of their argument. Forging as close ties as possible with the EU has never been so important for the UK.
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Oh, did he now?StephenDolan wrote:Laura Kuenssberg – Verified account @bbclaurak
How's that running commentary going? Leader of biggest group in euro parly says David Davis told him govt wants to stay in single market
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We've had a few New Yorker links lately haven't we, good stuff.
DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY BLASTS THE PRESS
By David Remnick
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... -the-press" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY BLASTS THE PRESS
By David Remnick
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... -the-press" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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What's more disconcerting are the reports that the media heads acquiesced.gilsey wrote:We've had a few New Yorker links lately haven't we, good stuff.
DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY BLASTS THE PRESS
By David Remnick
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... -the-press" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Body language not looking convivial in these 4 photos.
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First meeting with @DavidDavisMP on Brexit. Agreement needs to be found ahead of the new 2019 European elections
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First meeting with @DavidDavisMP on Brexit. Agreement needs to be found ahead of the new 2019 European elections
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People like Davis have spent years demonising EU politicians, so that shouldn't really be a surprise.
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Never crossed their minds that one day they might succeed, and then have to negotiate with them.AnatolyKasparov wrote:People like Davis have spent years demonising EU politicians, so that shouldn't really be a surprise.
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Ben Nutland @BenNutland 3m3 minutes ago
Canada quashes hopes of quick UK trade deal after #Brexit as Finance minister says EU, China & US are priority
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Canada quashes hopes of quick UK trade deal after #Brexit as Finance minister says EU, China & US are priority
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Morning all. Productive teaching Alliance meeting this morning.
Well.
Corporation tax is low enough already, don't cut it again, businesses say
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02766.html
Well.
Corporation tax is low enough already, don't cut it again, businesses say
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02766.html
The Government should not cut corporation tax any further because it is already low enough and further reductions would have diminishing returns, businesses have said.
A survey of businesses by financial services and accountacy firm PwC found that bosses believe cutting the profit tax rate further below 17 per cent would “have limited impact” and also “risk alienating the public”.
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Cutting the CT rate to 17% will alienate this member of the public.
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Businesses are telling UK government not to lower businesses' taxes any more than they already have.RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all. Productive teaching Alliance meeting this morning.
Well.
Corporation tax is low enough already, don't cut it again, businesses say
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02766.htmlThe Government should not cut corporation tax any further because it is already low enough and further reductions would have diminishing returns, businesses have said.
A survey of businesses by financial services and accountacy firm PwC found that bosses believe cutting the profit tax rate further below 17 per cent would “have limited impact” and also “risk alienating the public”.
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Good-afternoon, everyone.
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When I earned an honest crust in the public sector, there were (among other things) two documents that had to be produced prior to starting any project - a cost/benefit analysis and a risk register. If these exist for the Brexit project, they're being kept well away from scrutiny!gilsey wrote:A WAKE-UP CALL FOR LIBERAL BREXITERS
http://www.cer.org.uk/publications/arch ... -brexiters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Brexiters ......................... implicit assumption was that the US would continue to provide the security umbrella that makes peace and prosperity possible. The election of Donald Trump has undermined the premises of their argument. Forging as close ties as possible with the EU has never been so important for the UK.
No doubt the 'Trump factor' risk is being updated as we speak... isn't it?
On another topic, I see that the Brexiters are frothing over the possibility that a tax exile may be financing an anti-Brexit campaign:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 30396.html
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A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
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Hello.
More Trump fun (long thread) here:
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If you want something shorter though, try this:
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More Trump fun (long thread) here:
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If you want something shorter though, try this:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/ ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I believe (therefore it's true ) that Blair has denied any intention of returning to front line politics, despite the rumours. The article refers to Blairites, rather than Blair.AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
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The social care system needs a rescue package – to help the NHS survive
David Brindle
The social care system needs a rescue package – to help the NHS survive
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Yes, proven winners wildly popular with the public - like Alan Milburn and Jim MurphyEric_WLothian wrote:I believe (therefore it's true ) that Blair has denied any intention of returning to front line politics, despite the rumours. The article refers to Blairites, rather than Blair.AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
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I've noticed that, although "Brexit" may mean "Brexit", it is now often pronounced "Bregzit".
Should I be reading anything into this?
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Does the Collins Dictionary take account of this variance?
Should I be reading anything into this?
Edited to add -
Does the Collins Dictionary take account of this variance?
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Ah - but you forgot Cleggy, former chief moderator of Tory excesses.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, proven winners wildly popular with the public - like Alan Milburn and Jim MurphyEric_WLothian wrote:I believe (therefore it's true ) that Blair has denied any intention of returning to front line politics, despite the rumours. The article refers to Blairites, rather than Blair.AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
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Fairly typical of this government - cut back like mad just to boast about how much waste there clearly was...and then have to backtrack when they find things can't get done.PoliticsHome Verified account @politicshome 2h2 hours ago
Lord Kerslake tells MPs there is a "real issue" about numbers in civil service as Government undertakes Brexit. Calls for capacity review.
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A quick look btl at the Independent shows this to be the polite pronunciation. Other pronunciations/descriptions are available.PorFavor wrote:I've noticed that, although "Brexit" may mean "Brexit", it is now often pronounced "Bregzit".
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Thanks for that link yahyah. I knew there was a court case pending but hadn't bothered to find out the sentence.yahyah wrote:Morning.
There's a case being heard at Cardiff Crown Court, if true the allegations show how far payday loan sharks will go to protect their businesses.
The owner of a ''predator'' payday loan company allegedly hired computer hackers to take down a consumer protection website that published complaints from his customers.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... i-12206958" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
CAG is a brilliant resource for people in financial difficulties. There's a wealth of information & experience that is freely shared. Legal experts give guidance as well as people who have detailed knowledge of debt collection etc.
To think this 'hack' was going to be successful was desperate indeed.
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Popped into the newsagents this morning, surprised to hear a near neighbour say (about the TB story) "Thank god the adults are taking over" another person agreed and added "He's about the only one who can sort this mess out"AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
Real world opinion of TB is a bit different than the internet world's opinion, in my (limited) experience.
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Polling is ok then ? Aren't we supposed to ''learn to ignore it'' ?
Someone forgot to send that memo to the Labour party.
''Labour hires ad firm and pollsters to 'get ready' for snap election ''
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/j ... _hp_ref=uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Someone forgot to send that memo to the Labour party.
''Labour hires ad firm and pollsters to 'get ready' for snap election ''
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/j ... _hp_ref=uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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A touch of sanity? Mandatory Pay to Stay gone away.
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A touch of sanity? Mandatory Pay to Stay gone away.
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They rhyme differently, could be useful *PorFavor wrote:I've noticed that, although "Brexit" may mean "Brexit", it is now often pronounced "Bregzit".
Should I be reading anything into this?
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Does the Collins Dictionary take account of this variance?
Brexit .... Boris wrecks it
Bregzit .... Dave legs it.
(Theresa May rhymes well,
i.e. Sleaze away, Disarray, Moral decay )
* or, more likely, not.
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Now that polling has been introduced into the discussion, it needs to be stated that recent findings about our ex-PM are none too flattering.AngryAsWell wrote:Popped into the newsagents this morning, surprised to hear a near neighbour say (about the TB story) "Thank god the adults are taking over" another person agreed and added "He's about the only one who can sort this mess out"AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
Real world opinion of TB is a bit different than the internet world's opinion, in my (limited) experience.
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Worse than the current leadership ?
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Well, a few surveys have actually claimed that Labour would be doing worse under Blair than Corbyn. Motwyw.
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I'm unsurprised you heard this. People are complicated individually as well as in groups. Mr citizen read me an article relativelyAngryAsWell wrote:Popped into the newsagents this morning, surprised to hear a near neighbour say (about the TB story) "Thank god the adults are taking over" another person agreed and added "He's about the only one who can sort this mess out"AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
Real world opinion of TB is a bit different than the internet world's opinion, in my (limited) experience.
recently. I think I've got this right, correct me if I'm wrong, please. A poll of the best twentieth century UK Prime Ministers gave
number one best to Clement Attlee. The second place best was Margaret Thatcher. Help me, jaja. Make sense of that.
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..and yetAnatolyKasparov wrote:Well, a few surveys have actually claimed that Labour would be doing worse under Blair than Corbyn. Motwyw.
Exclusive: Jeremy Corbyn is still more popular with the party faithful but the public at large prefer Tony Blair
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Different people.citizenJA wrote:I'm unsurprised you heard this. People are complicated individually as well as in groups. Mr citizen read me an article relativelyAngryAsWell wrote:Popped into the newsagents this morning, surprised to hear a near neighbour say (about the TB story) "Thank god the adults are taking over" another person agreed and added "He's about the only one who can sort this mess out"AnatolyKasparov wrote:A campaign fronted by the likes of Branson and Blair really *is* a non-starter in so many ways, though.
Real world opinion of TB is a bit different than the internet world's opinion, in my (limited) experience.
recently. I think I've got this right, correct me if I'm wrong, please. A poll of the best twentieth century UK Prime Ministers gave
number one best to Clement Attlee. The second place best was Margaret Thatcher. Help me, jaja. Make sense of that.
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I honestly and straightforwardly do not understand why anybody would pay any much attention to opinion polls, given that in virtually every way that matters in recent years they have been so hopeless. It doesn't matter that pollsters might have got the national vote share in the US more or less right, they were astronomically wrong in the state by state polls that actually mattered.yahyah wrote:Polling is ok then ? Aren't we supposed to ''learn to ignore it'' ?
Someone forgot to send that memo to the Labour party.
''Labour hires ad firm and pollsters to 'get ready' for snap election ''
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/j ... _hp_ref=uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not having a go at you at all, YahYah. I just genuinely don't know why anyone would be bothered with them, they're hopeless.
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From the G
Trump thinks it was a hoax invented by China. Johnson thinks people shouldn't be criticising that? Isn't the world a shit hole.Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has criticised Labour for attacking Donald Trump’s stance on climate change.
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"In what year did..."
"2016. The answer is always...2016"
Nigel Farage attacks response to Trump ambassador tweet
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38064664
"2016. The answer is always...2016"
Nigel Farage attacks response to Trump ambassador tweet
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38064664
Nigel Farage has accused Downing Street of putting its dislike of him ahead of the national interest after No 10 dismissed Donald Trump's comment that he could be a "great" ambassador.
The UKIP leader said No 10 needed to accept "the world has changed", adding he was "in a good position, with the president-elect's support, to help".
Mr Trump had tweeted that "many people" would like to see Mr Farage in the role and he would do a "great job".
But No 10 said there was "no vacancy".
The role is currently held by Sir Kim Darroch and a spokesman for Prime Minister Theresa May added that he was "an excellent ambassador who only took up post in January and traditionally they serve four years or even longer".
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2016, eloquently summed up.
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It is so tempting to say that, as a species, we deserve our fate. I studied modern German history under Professor Sir Ian Kershaw. There was one thing I could never quite grasp in spite of his expertise. I'd rather like to go back and study it again, because now I grasp it perfectly.
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It is so tempting to say that, as a species, we deserve our fate. I studied modern German history under Professor Sir Ian Kershaw. There was one thing I could never quite grasp in spite of his expertise. I'd rather like to go back and study it again, because now I grasp it perfectly.
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One character on that thread - whenever I see someone describing themselves as a libertarian, my usual reaction isNonOxCol wrote:2016, eloquently summed up.
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It is so tempting to say that, as a species, we deserve our fate. I studied modern German history under Professor Sir Ian Kershaw. There was one thing I could never quite grasp in spite of his expertise. I'd rather like to go back and study it again, because now I grasp it perfectly.
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Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General
National Audit Office (NAO)
Department of Health
Financial sustainability of the NHS
22 November 2016
"NHS bodies achieve financial sustainability when they are able to successfully
manage activity, quality and financial pressures within the income they receive.
In recent years, the financial performance of NHS trusts and NHS foundation trusts
has significantly declined.
The Department of Health (the Department) has overall responsibility in central government for healthcare services.
It is responsible for ensuring that those organisations perform effectively and have governance and controls in place
to ensure value for money.
The Department has made NHS England and NHS Improvement responsible for ensuring that the NHS balances its budget in 2016-17.
In February 2016 the Department transferred £950 million of its £4.6 billion budget for capital projects, such as building works and
IT, to revenue budgets to fund the day-to -day activities of NHS bodies. Of this, £331 million was exchanged for revenue support
for 93 trusts, to fund healthcare services.
The Department did not assess the long-term effects of transferring this funding to cover day-to-day spending.
This means it does not know what risks trusts may face in future as a result of addressing immediate funding needs.
The Department, NHS England and NHS Improvement expect trusts and commissioners to invest in transformation programmes.
But they do not yet know what level of investment is required or whether local bodies will be able to make the changes at the
scale and pace needed. Furthermore, the government has made a commitment that the health and social care system in England
will be fully joined together by 2020.
We have previously reported that local authority spending on adult social care fell by 10% in real terms between 2009-10 (£16.3 billion) and 2014-15 (£14.6 billion).
The accounting officer for NHS England told the Committee of Public Accounts that “over the next two or three years, there is likely to
be a widening gap between the availability of adult social care and the need for social care. That, will, inevitably show up as delayed
discharges and extra pressure on hospitals.”
However, in our review of the plans for financial sustainability, we did not see any estimate of the impact of pressures on social care spending on NHS bodies.
Despite efforts by NHS England and NHS Improvement to join up to support local NHS bodies, a lack of incentives and unrealistic targets remain.
We heard from five of the 21 local bodies we spoke to that the pressure to meet the financial targets set by NHS Improvement for their individual
organisation did not incentivise them to work with other bodies in their local area to develop sustainability and transformation plans as required by
NHS England and NHS Improvement. Furthermore, in May 2016 the Committee of Public Accounts concluded that the 4% efficiency target for trusts
set by NHS England and Monitor (now NHS Improvement) in 2015-16 was unrealistic and damaging to trusts’ finances."
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploa ... ummary.pdf
National Audit Office (NAO)
Department of Health
Financial sustainability of the NHS
22 November 2016
"NHS bodies achieve financial sustainability when they are able to successfully
manage activity, quality and financial pressures within the income they receive.
In recent years, the financial performance of NHS trusts and NHS foundation trusts
has significantly declined.
The Department of Health (the Department) has overall responsibility in central government for healthcare services.
It is responsible for ensuring that those organisations perform effectively and have governance and controls in place
to ensure value for money.
The Department has made NHS England and NHS Improvement responsible for ensuring that the NHS balances its budget in 2016-17.
In February 2016 the Department transferred £950 million of its £4.6 billion budget for capital projects, such as building works and
IT, to revenue budgets to fund the day-to -day activities of NHS bodies. Of this, £331 million was exchanged for revenue support
for 93 trusts, to fund healthcare services.
The Department did not assess the long-term effects of transferring this funding to cover day-to-day spending.
This means it does not know what risks trusts may face in future as a result of addressing immediate funding needs.
The Department, NHS England and NHS Improvement expect trusts and commissioners to invest in transformation programmes.
But they do not yet know what level of investment is required or whether local bodies will be able to make the changes at the
scale and pace needed. Furthermore, the government has made a commitment that the health and social care system in England
will be fully joined together by 2020.
We have previously reported that local authority spending on adult social care fell by 10% in real terms between 2009-10 (£16.3 billion) and 2014-15 (£14.6 billion).
The accounting officer for NHS England told the Committee of Public Accounts that “over the next two or three years, there is likely to
be a widening gap between the availability of adult social care and the need for social care. That, will, inevitably show up as delayed
discharges and extra pressure on hospitals.”
However, in our review of the plans for financial sustainability, we did not see any estimate of the impact of pressures on social care spending on NHS bodies.
Despite efforts by NHS England and NHS Improvement to join up to support local NHS bodies, a lack of incentives and unrealistic targets remain.
We heard from five of the 21 local bodies we spoke to that the pressure to meet the financial targets set by NHS Improvement for their individual
organisation did not incentivise them to work with other bodies in their local area to develop sustainability and transformation plans as required by
NHS England and NHS Improvement. Furthermore, in May 2016 the Committee of Public Accounts concluded that the 4% efficiency target for trusts
set by NHS England and Monitor (now NHS Improvement) in 2015-16 was unrealistic and damaging to trusts’ finances."
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploa ... ummary.pdf
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I was under the impression the same group of people ranked the entire list together. If that's not the case, then of course, it's unsurprising the result.StephenDolan wrote:Different people.citizenJA wrote:I'm unsurprised you heard this. People are complicated individually as well as in groups. Mr citizen read me an article relativelyAngryAsWell wrote: Popped into the newsagents this morning, surprised to hear a near neighbour say (about the TB story) "Thank god the adults are taking over" another person agreed and added "He's about the only one who can sort this mess out"
Real world opinion of TB is a bit different than the internet world's opinion, in my (limited) experience.
recently. I think I've got this right, correct me if I'm wrong, please. A poll of the best twentieth century UK Prime Ministers gave
number one best to Clement Attlee. The second place best was Margaret Thatcher. Help me, jaja. Make sense of that.
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Re: Tuesday 22nd November 2016
'A quick recap of the main points
1) Britain is on track to blow past its budget forecasts for this year, despite cutting its borrowing in October by 25%.
The UK has now borrowed £48.6bn since April 2016, down from £54.2bn a year ago, but already close to the £55bn target for this current financial year (to March 2017).
Economists believe it could overshoot the target by £10bn or more, underlining the weak state of the public finances.
The better news is that October’s deficit fell to £4.8bn, from £6.4bn a year ago, thanks to a rise in corporation tax receipts.'
That's from the G business live blog.
The BBC news app has
Government borrowing falls on record October tax take - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38062164" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1) Britain is on track to blow past its budget forecasts for this year, despite cutting its borrowing in October by 25%.
The UK has now borrowed £48.6bn since April 2016, down from £54.2bn a year ago, but already close to the £55bn target for this current financial year (to March 2017).
Economists believe it could overshoot the target by £10bn or more, underlining the weak state of the public finances.
The better news is that October’s deficit fell to £4.8bn, from £6.4bn a year ago, thanks to a rise in corporation tax receipts.'
That's from the G business live blog.
The BBC news app has
Government borrowing falls on record October tax take - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38062164" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Tuesday 22nd November 2016
The lengthy quote from today's NAO report on the financial sustainability of the NHS is to help point out that it's not the NHS' fault a Tory
government went about taking the NHS apart as the economical and functional universal health care provision system it was prior Tory
government. The documentation from the NAO helps prove that.
government went about taking the NHS apart as the economical and functional universal health care provision system it was prior Tory
government. The documentation from the NAO helps prove that.