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Christmas Weekend. Sat 24th - Tues 27th December
Merry Christmas everyone.
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Merry Christmas, everyone!
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And good morfternoon.
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Busy day today so probably won't be around much.
Happy Christmas all
Happy Christmas all
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Merry Christmas one and all.
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"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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Merry Christmas all.
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Merry Christmas everyone
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Merry Xmas to all.
(- it was meant to be a christmassy photo,
but the tree ended up looking a bit unhappy.)
(- it was meant to be a christmassy photo,
but the tree ended up looking a bit unhappy.)
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Fisking Andrew Marr’s delusional view of Brexit
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Ambulance services face paramedic shortage this winter, NHS data shows
Ambulance services face paramedic shortage this winter, NHS data shows
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I remember when Andrew Marr was actually good. Some younger people may not, however - it was a while ago now.AngryAsWell wrote:Fisking Andrew Marr’s delusional view of Brexit
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Richard Coles
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When did politicians start giving 'Christmas messages'? Get your tanks off our lawn!
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Yes, and bearing in mind most politicians ability for being utterly useless this year, I'd rather they keep quiet.AngryAsWell wrote:Richard Coles
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When did politicians start giving 'Christmas messages'? Get your tanks off our lawn!
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Morning all by the way...forgetting my manners.
So...food shopping done as per usual for a Saturday. Not too bad and as all the tills were manned there was no delay there. And I won a box of biscuits! I think I was Sainsburys gazillionth customer for the morning or something like that.
Now...it's finally time for...wrapping up! Wish me luck - I may be some time...
So...food shopping done as per usual for a Saturday. Not too bad and as all the tills were manned there was no delay there. And I won a box of biscuits! I think I was Sainsburys gazillionth customer for the morning or something like that.
Now...it's finally time for...wrapping up! Wish me luck - I may be some time...
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Merry Christmas, everyone.
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It's 2016, it's perfect.tinybgoat wrote:Merry Xmas to all.
(- it was meant to be a christmassy photo,
but the tree ended up looking a bit unhappy.)
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OMG! There's no way I could leave wrapping that late, I'd be having kittens. No, Christmas Eve is the day for vacuuming behind the sofa and trying to remember where I hid all the presents I wrapped already!RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all by the way...forgetting my manners.
So...food shopping done as per usual for a Saturday. Not too bad and as all the tills were manned there was no delay there. And I won a box of biscuits! I think I was Sainsburys gazillionth customer for the morning or something like that.
Now...it's finally time for...wrapping up! Wish me luck - I may be some time...
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ays-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Squalor of temporary housing holds back UK homeless, says report
Failings in system mean users struggle to take steps towards more permanent accommodation, IPPR research finds
Squalor of temporary housing holds back UK homeless, says report
Failings in system mean users struggle to take steps towards more permanent accommodation, IPPR research finds
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Actually from a couple of weeks ago
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Vulnerable UK women choosing prison over life on the outside
Vulnerable UK women choosing prison over life on the outside
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Express & StarVerified account
@ExpressandStar
We DON'T want out anymore: Shock poll reveals Express & Star readers have changed their minds on #Brexit
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/poli ... on-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
(Sample 10,000 I think)
@ExpressandStar
We DON'T want out anymore: Shock poll reveals Express & Star readers have changed their minds on #Brexit
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/poli ... on-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
(Sample 10,000 I think)
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Glad the insanity was only temporary.AngryAsWell wrote:Express & StarVerified account
@ExpressandStar
We DON'T want out anymore: Shock poll reveals Express & Star readers have changed their minds on #Brexit
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/poli ... on-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
(Sample 10,000 I think)
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Its a voodoo poll, I'm afraid.AngryAsWell wrote:Express & StarVerified account
@ExpressandStar
We DON'T want out anymore: Shock poll reveals Express & Star readers have changed their minds on #Brexit
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/poli ... on-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
(Sample 10,000 I think)
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This is a bit shocking.
Camber Sands deaths blamed on victims' 'culture' by council
Incident log warned of increasing numbers of ‘non-British visitors’ to beach where seven men died this summer
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... by-council" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Camber Sands deaths blamed on victims' 'culture' by council
Incident log warned of increasing numbers of ‘non-British visitors’ to beach where seven men died this summer
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... by-council" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yes - I read that yesterday but, as so often of late, words failed me.AngryAsWell wrote:This is a bit shocking.
Camber Sands deaths blamed on victims' 'culture' by council
Incident log warned of increasing numbers of ‘non-British visitors’ to beach where seven men died this summer
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... by-council" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I doubt the vast majority of people who voted to leave the EU have given it much thought of any kind since, let alone taken the time to consider the negative consequences that they weren't willing to consider beforehand and come to a different conclusion.
I'm sure some people have regrets about how they voted (both ways), but suspect these would be the instant regrets of people who were never sure about their choice in the first place.
I get the impression quite a few leave voters have been waiting a long time to vote us out of the EU and they will always be happy with their decision, even if the economy tanks and immigration only grows greater and greater, because they got their country back. When your aim for voting out is so nonsensical, there is no instance in which it is demonstrable that you have failed in your aim.
I'm sure some people have regrets about how they voted (both ways), but suspect these would be the instant regrets of people who were never sure about their choice in the first place.
I get the impression quite a few leave voters have been waiting a long time to vote us out of the EU and they will always be happy with their decision, even if the economy tanks and immigration only grows greater and greater, because they got their country back. When your aim for voting out is so nonsensical, there is no instance in which it is demonstrable that you have failed in your aim.
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That's our cooker.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ays-report
Squalor of temporary housing holds back UK homeless, says report
Failings in system mean users struggle to take steps towards more permanent accommodation, IPPR research finds
I want royalties on that image.
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It's the new Dark Ages.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tal-health
Vulnerable UK women choosing prison over life on the outside
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Leave voters are Brendan O'Neill's heroes of the year.Willow904 wrote:I doubt the vast majority of people who voted to leave the EU have given it much thought of any kind since, let alone taken the time to consider the negative consequences that they weren't willing to consider beforehand and come to a different conclusion.
I'm sure some people have regrets about how they voted (both ways), but suspect these would be the instant regrets of people who were never sure about their choice in the first place.
I get the impression quite a few leave voters have been waiting a long time to vote us out of the EU and they will always be happy with their decision, even if the economy tanks and immigration only grows greater and greater, because they got their country back. When your aim for voting out is so nonsensical, there is no instance in which it is demonstrable that you have failed in your aim.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/le ... roes-2016/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And here’s the best bit: many of them voted, not out of self-interest, but for what they think is the greater, democratic good.
Yes, that "greater democratic good which presumably includes English judges deciding on points of English law"...
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Hello everyone.
Just popped in to wish you the compliments of the season.
Whatever our differences, I hope we all wish for a better year in 2017.
Just popped in to wish you the compliments of the season.
Whatever our differences, I hope we all wish for a better year in 2017.
"Poverty is the worst form of violence" - Mahatma Gandhi
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Talking of the Spiked crowd...I found a fantastic bit of echo chamber nonsense yesterday.
Snowdon is of course with the Institute of Economic Affairs. Hardly the sort that you would expect people supposedly of the left to hang around with.
The author?
http://www.zero-books.net/authors/josie-appleton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And the book itself comes with a glowing bit of puffery from someone called Dr Ellie Lee, Director of Centre for Parenting Culture Studies, Reader in Social Policy, University of Kent
http://www.zero-books.net/books/officious" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kent eh? Where Furedi and Joanna Williams hang out. And...
https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/parentingcultu ... ho-we-are/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And now...back to the wrapping.
Snowdon is of course with the Institute of Economic Affairs. Hardly the sort that you would expect people supposedly of the left to hang around with.
The author?
http://www.zero-books.net/authors/josie-appleton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Part of the whole Spiked/Institute of Ideas grouping.Josie Appleton is director of the Manifesto Club
And the book itself comes with a glowing bit of puffery from someone called Dr Ellie Lee, Director of Centre for Parenting Culture Studies, Reader in Social Policy, University of Kent
http://www.zero-books.net/books/officious" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kent eh? Where Furedi and Joanna Williams hang out. And...
And lastly...the associates of the Centre for parenting Culture includes...In 2010, with colleagues from The University of Kent, set up the Centre for Parenting Culture Studies, based in SSPSSR. I’m also a Director of the Institute of Ideas and I frequently discuss my research in the media, read more here or see my activity tab.
https://blogs.kent.ac.uk/parentingcultu ... ho-we-are/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well I never...how very cosy...Frank Furedi
Frank Furedi is Emeritus professor of Sociology, University of Kent and Visiting Professor, Institute of Risk and Disaster Reduction, University College London.
And now...back to the wrapping.
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From RoT's article above:
And as for Brexit - who offered the British public the opportunity to leave the EU and all the economic turmoil it will entail? The Prime Minister, ffs. And who campaigned to leave? Government ministers. And which party did the most leave voters come from? The Conservative party. Hardly a bloody revolution of the discontented working classes. People voted to leave the EU because it was offered to them as a viable option by "outsider mavericks" like Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Fox. So if it transpires that Brexit is a stupid idea, I know who I'll be holding responsible and it won't be ordinary voters, thick or otherwise.
There's something in this, of course. Donald Trump wasn't a maverick outsider foisted upon the US political classes by rebellious voters - he was the officially endorsed Republican candidate. Who are more stupid and more culpable? The American public who voted for a Republican candidate or the Republican party members who made him their candidate in the first place? Is it not they who are ultimately responsible for every hideous mis-step he may take?No, it’s the response to Brexit and Trump that has been disturbing. Especially the response from the fuming liberal media and the less guarded sections of the political class.
Their contempt for ‘low information’ Americans, for American white women who don’t have college degrees, for supposedly xenophobic Brits, for the North of England, Welsh workers, tabloid readers and the uneducated, has been truly alarming.
And as for Brexit - who offered the British public the opportunity to leave the EU and all the economic turmoil it will entail? The Prime Minister, ffs. And who campaigned to leave? Government ministers. And which party did the most leave voters come from? The Conservative party. Hardly a bloody revolution of the discontented working classes. People voted to leave the EU because it was offered to them as a viable option by "outsider mavericks" like Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Fox. So if it transpires that Brexit is a stupid idea, I know who I'll be holding responsible and it won't be ordinary voters, thick or otherwise.
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RIP Rick Parfitt
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..and the same to you & yours ephemerid, 2017 can "only get better" ...... I'm sureephemerid wrote:Hello everyone.
Just popped in to wish you the compliments of the season.
Whatever our differences, I hope we all wish for a better year in 2017.
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Yeah saw that. Sad news.AngryAsWell wrote:RIP Rick Parfitt
Never a fan but SQ probably made more money for John Fogerty by covering Rockin' All Over The World than Fogerty made out of all his solo albums. And of course that gets played whenever we win - although sadly, that isn't that often these days...
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Afternoon folks,
And a happy festive period to all, present or lurking. 2016 will be a good year to see the back of. Here's hoping for a better year to come.
So, here's an article about Newcastle from the Graun. Quite accurate, surprisingly.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016 ... bs-culture
And a happy festive period to all, present or lurking. 2016 will be a good year to see the back of. Here's hoping for a better year to come.
So, here's an article about Newcastle from the Graun. Quite accurate, surprisingly.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016 ... bs-culture
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... hs-englandNumber of urgent operations cancelled in England hits record high
NHS cancelled 446 urgent operations in November, almost double the number in the same month last year (Guardian)
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#Make2017MadderThan2016
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Evening all
Just want to wish everyone a restful/happy holiday.
Just want to wish everyone a restful/happy holiday.
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Hello all, Hope everyone has a very happy xmas and a much better 2017.
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I wish you and your loves many happy new years, Ephemerid!ephemerid wrote:Hello everyone.
Just popped in to wish you the compliments of the season.
Whatever our differences, I hope we all wish for a better year in 2017.
Apologies for getting to your message late.
I love you, that doesn't change.
xx
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(cJA edit)Willow904 wrote:There's something in this, of course. Donald Trump wasn't a maverick outsider foisted upon the US political classes by rebellious voters - he was the officially endorsed Republican candidate. Who are more stupid and more culpable? The American public who voted for a Republican candidate or the Republican party members who made him their candidate in the first place? Is it not they who are ultimately responsible for every hideous mis-step he may take?
And as for Brexit - who offered the British public the opportunity to leave the EU and all the economic turmoil it will entail? The Prime Minister, ffs. And who campaigned to leave? Government ministers. And which party did the most leave voters come from? The Conservative party. Hardly a bloody revolution of the discontented working classes. People voted to leave the EU because it was offered to them as a viable option by "outsider mavericks" like Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Fox. So if it transpires that Brexit is a stupid idea, I know who I'll be holding responsible and it won't be ordinary voters, thick or otherwise.
Hear hear
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Theresa May ended her 2016 Christmas message "with a tribute to those working over the holiday period."
“Having grown up in a vicarage, I know how demanding it can be for those who have to work over the Christmas period...”.
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Yes, because delivering a sermon on Christmas day is pretty much the same as doing a 12 hour shift in a hospital* or on a police patrol.citizenJA wrote:Theresa May ended her 2016 Christmas message "with a tribute to those working over the holiday period."“Having grown up in a vicarage, I know how demanding it can be for those who have to work over the Christmas period...”.
*which, as it happens, is where my other half is right now...
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Best Wishes to FTNers for Christmas and the New Year. Kepp warm and well and happy.
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And the Merriam-Webster word of the year is... http://on.mktw.net/2igmeLx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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David Head @DavidHeadViews 53m53 minutes ago
Wishing those peddlers of prejudice & fear, the staff of the #DailyExpress & the #DailyMail , a truly salutary Jacob Marley night tonight.
Wishing those peddlers of prejudice & fear, the staff of the #DailyExpress & the #DailyMail , a truly salutary Jacob Marley night tonight.
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What did the Brexit vote reveal about the UK?
Mark Easton
"In the true blue Cotswolds, I met a Conservative Party member who despaired that, in his own words, two whole aisles in his local Tesco had been given over to Polish food.
He was not a racist, nor even a xenophobe, but he was frustrated that cultural change had come to his neighbourhood without notice or consultation."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38301495" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I despair that there are people so bigoted that "foreign food" scares them!
He also says (as do many) that:
"One person in eight voted UKIP at the 2015 general election - 3.8m people - but the party has only one MP, Douglas Carswell."
Do they never stop to think that if we had PR the UKIP vote may not hold up. People use them as a protest vote depository, knowing they will never win under FPTP. Change to PR, and because of the uncertainty, people may go back to Tory or Labour.
Mark Easton
"In the true blue Cotswolds, I met a Conservative Party member who despaired that, in his own words, two whole aisles in his local Tesco had been given over to Polish food.
He was not a racist, nor even a xenophobe, but he was frustrated that cultural change had come to his neighbourhood without notice or consultation."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38301495" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I despair that there are people so bigoted that "foreign food" scares them!
He also says (as do many) that:
"One person in eight voted UKIP at the 2015 general election - 3.8m people - but the party has only one MP, Douglas Carswell."
Do they never stop to think that if we had PR the UKIP vote may not hold up. People use them as a protest vote depository, knowing they will never win under FPTP. Change to PR, and because of the uncertainty, people may go back to Tory or Labour.