Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Wednesday 8th March 2017
Morning all.
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The fightback
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Not a parody.
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Not a parody.
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SpinningHugo wrote:The fightback
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Not a parody.
Except Blair didn't deselect Jeremy Corbyn and replace him with a right-winger so not out of the Blairite playbook at all. Mandatory reselection may be tempting, but in reality will simply pile a loss of the incumbent effect on top of all the other woes which are currently putting Labour on target to lose a lot of seats.The harsh reality is that the only way this will be possible is by replacing the right wingers in the Labour Party. It is a prerequisite for the success of the Corbyn project. Ironically, he would be taking a leaf out of the Blairite playbook
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Good morfternoon.
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Morning all. Hezza finds out that you're either with or against Supreme Leader May.
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Anyone fancy a picture even more vomit-inducing than yesterday's shot of the Tory youth wing?
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Morning all.
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Why no International Day of the Donaeld? No one more respectful of women than me! And I think I should be honoured for that. With a Day.
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Michael Heseltine says that he has never met Theresa May (Sky TV News).
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He said that on Today too - find it hard to believe unless he's talking about the period since she became PM.PorFavor wrote:Michael Heseltine says that he has never met Theresa May (Sky TV News).
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If anyone is wondering why I'm so dead against Regional Schools Commissioners, being that they are in fact civil servants and do what ministers tell them, then here's a good example.
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Some time ago, I had a weird dream that Teresa May's health was deteriorating because of her job & her husband was suffering through being kept awake.
This isn't really relevant to the following, except, maybe the last line.
This isn't really relevant to the following, except, maybe the last line.
"The Strides of May"
If Teresa May steps out one day, in boots of fine black leather,
trench coat to match, Siegrunes on her hat indicate more than stormy weather.
Poker faced, little Trump hand in hand, proudly sporting matching armbands.
The nasty party's back to stay.
-Beware the Strides of May.
With Boris, she'd sail a narrowed world,
a clueless pair of privateers
Gambling future freedom, wealth and peace
peoples disunited by her Brexiteers.
She plays trump cards with questionable skill,
everything is justified by the people's will
but that's not poker and there's lives at play
-Beware the Tides of May
Now the safety net's been cast aside
They build a bridge from hell with the broken lives
Her Zombie party's heart lies in the USA
Theresa May helps pave the way
If the Vicar's daughter plays her part
like a character from Dennis Wheatley.
A sustainable solution, for health and social care,
fast tracking the sick and needy
Hammond's budget horror features
bring a feeding frenzy for nightmare creatures
Projecting it's just Labour who are in Decay.
-Beware the Bride of May
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Budget Day Nonsense
Budget Day Nonsense
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Davey v Oxfordshire CC: The tactics of austerity
"independence was about exercising control over his life, not about not being supported. This is a pretty central idea within the disabled people’s movement and the concept of independence"
Davey v Oxfordshire CC: The tactics of austerity
"independence was about exercising control over his life, not about not being supported. This is a pretty central idea within the disabled people’s movement and the concept of independence"
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Blair did not do that*, but he attempted just about everything else to ensure prospective Labour MPs were of the type that he wanted.Willow904 wrote:SpinningHugo wrote:The fightback
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 13466.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not a parody.Except Blair didn't deselect Jeremy Corbyn and replace him with a right-winger so not out of the Blairite playbook at all. Mandatory reselection may be tempting, but in reality will simply pile a loss of the incumbent effect on top of all the other woes which are currently putting Labour on target to lose a lot of seats.The harsh reality is that the only way this will be possible is by replacing the right wingers in the Labour Party. It is a prerequisite for the success of the Corbyn project. Ironically, he would be taking a leaf out of the Blairite playbook
(*there was definite chatter about "purging" hard left MPs, Corbyn amongst them, at times)
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Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
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I played it safe this year
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I played it safe this year
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Though they were only MPs simultaneously for a 4 year period - 1997-2001 - and Hezza probably wasn't an assidious attender of the HoC by then.RogerOThornhill wrote:He said that on Today too - find it hard to believe unless he's talking about the period since she became PM.PorFavor wrote:Michael Heseltine says that he has never met Theresa May (Sky TV News).
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UK social care sector in crisis due to staff shortages
UK social care sector in crisis due to staff shortages
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You didn't fancy the Ken Clarke special?pk1 wrote:Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
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I played it safe this year
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Children in care are not just numbers: we must challenge the stigma
Children in care are not just numbers: we must challenge the stigma
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A hack. Looking for another patronage job.RogerOThornhill wrote:If anyone is wondering why I'm so dead against Regional Schools Commissioners, being that they are in fact civil servants and do what ministers tell them, then here's a good example.
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Asked for where this evidence can be found...zero response. Of course he could be busy but if you're in a position like his and you tweet contentious statements then you should be prepared to answer.Tim Coulson
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A state of disrepair
A state of disrepair
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And anyway, you could give all schools this autonomy instead of all the academization rigmarole.
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Well quite.Tubby Isaacs wrote:And anyway, you could give all schools this autonomy instead of all the academization rigmarole.
That "dispelling myths" is straight out of the DfE playbook.
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I think that, these days, Philip Hammond refers to "gas" in the tank - or at least he did the other day.pk1 wrote:Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
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I played it safe this year
I wonder why that should be.
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I've just noticed that the "gas" quote is referenced over at Politics Live, Guardian. Spooky.
Edited (again) - mysterious (spooky, even) typo
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Because Letwin's got the other stuff in his garage?PorFavor wrote:I think that, these days, Philip Hammond refers to "gas" in the tank - or at least he did the other day.pk1 wrote:Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
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I played it safe this year
I wonder why that should be.
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Britain faces a potential €2 billion bill from Brussels after EU investigators found that U.K. authorities turned a blind eye to a massive fraud network that allowed ultra-cheap Chinese goods to flood into Europe.
The EU’s anti-fraud office OLAF, uncovering allegedly one of the biggest fraud rings in its history, concluded that British customs played a central role by repeatedly ignoring warnings to take action over Chinese textiles and footwear pouring into the EU at a tiny fraction of their cost of production.
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In Francis Maude's jerry can?StephenDolan wrote:Because Letwin's got the other stuff in his garage?PorFavor wrote:I think that, these days, Philip Hammond refers to "gas" in the tank - or at least he did the other day.pk1 wrote:Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/bett ... 223409042/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I played it safe this year
I wonder why that should be.
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Oh bugger ! Yes, I remember that phrase from his weekend interviews now you've said that. Ah well, never was much good at this gambling larkPorFavor wrote:I think that, these days, Philip Hammond refers to "gas" in the tank - or at least he did the other day.pk1 wrote:Don't forget your Budget Buzzword Bingo Bets
https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/bett ... 223409042/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I played it safe this year
I wonder why that should be.
Edited to add -
I've just noticed that the "gas" quote is referenced over at Politics Live, Guardian. Spooky.
Edited (again) - mysterious (spooky, even) typo
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Yeah, that's hilarious. Shall we put up Dr Eoin or Kerry Ann Mendoza in Nuneaton?SpinningHugo wrote:The fightback
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Not a parody.
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£60bn gas in the tank is basically an extended overdraft. How does it exist? He'd borrow £60bn more now than he will?
Great graph from the Resolution Foundation the other day, showing the cost of fairly populist tax measures. Obviously, we'd probably want to reduce VAT instead, so it wouldn't all be additional revenue. But food for thought.
Great graph from the Resolution Foundation the other day, showing the cost of fairly populist tax measures. Obviously, we'd probably want to reduce VAT instead, so it wouldn't all be additional revenue. But food for thought.
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From Corbyn's minister for memes. I've never understood why claiming these tiny amounts on things is considered so bad.
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Spring Budget 2017: documents
Spring Budget 2017: documents
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NIC up for self-employed.
That's a manifesto promise broken.
That's a manifesto promise broken.
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Delay in presentation officers recruitment (22 million) in PIP/ESA tribunals,savings from denial pushed ahead.
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Or maybe it isn't.
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By abolishing Class 2 NICs & staggering the increase in Class 4 NICs, most self-employed workers will actually better off, says @TorstenBell
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Successive OBR forecasts for the National Living Wage - now on course to be £8.75 in 2020
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Worthwhile looking at OBR in policy costings as to what the Treasury "chooses not to include in its scorecard)
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Resolution Foundation praising the NIC changes.
Sorry to keep bringing it back to Labour, but I've not seen any decent attempt to set the agenda on this stuff.
Sorry to keep bringing it back to Labour, but I've not seen any decent attempt to set the agenda on this stuff.
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OBR
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It's amazing how you can pretend that something isn't in your manifesto when you like, with minimal fuss.
Single market, NIC, what'll be next?
Single market, NIC, what'll be next?
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You can if you're the Tories. This would be "Gordo shits on you" if it was Labour.StephenDolan wrote:It's amazing how you can pretend that something isn't in your manifesto when you like, with minimal fuss.
Single market, NIC, what'll be next?
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As Stephen was saying. These look to have slipped a bit from the early days.
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Amazing what you can get away with when you have virtually the entire media in your pocket, in other words.
This isn't going to change, either. The left needs a strategy to at least neutralise it ASAP, and it is now clear that social media is not enough.
This isn't going to change, either. The left needs a strategy to at least neutralise it ASAP, and it is now clear that social media is not enough.
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Douglas Carswell just pointing out on BBC that the government spent £3m on a school in his constituency that shut after just 3 years.
Corbyn was good on this in PMQs today. It's a shame it will be lost in the general budget hoo-ha, as I think the government is vulnerable on the whole free schools thing.
Corbyn was good on this in PMQs today. It's a shame it will be lost in the general budget hoo-ha, as I think the government is vulnerable on the whole free schools thing.
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It can be brought up again, and doubtless will be.
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Good to hear.
Agree about free schools. They weren't popular before.
Agree about free schools. They weren't popular before.
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They could do with getting Lucy Powell back at Education.