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Re: Friday 22nd September 2017
Theresa May's Tory party speech in Florence
an inappropriate venue, time and place
arrogant, rude and expensive (not just monetarily)
an inappropriate venue, time and place
arrogant, rude and expensive (not just monetarily)
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Oh I see.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah, there have been a few like that recentlyPaulfromYorkshire wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:May's BIG SPEECH - what a nice birthday present for me.
By-elections not that happy for your birthday either AK
Though I don't understand this resultBritain Elects @britainelects 11h11 hours ago
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Oadby Uplands (Oadby & Wigston) result:
LDEM: 39.0% (+1.2)
LAB: 34.5% (+2.2)
CON: 26.5% (-3.4)
LDem gain from Lab in multi-member ward.
Split ward, Labour took the second seat last time but overall the LibDems topped the poll.
I've just read more and apparently he was the first Labour councillor there almost in living memory and then ended up mired in controversy.
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I like Sadiq Khan a lot
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Maybe HindleA has some intel on the other Labour loss, on Chesterfield council.
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I'd like to know whose idea the Florence thing was. It doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that Theresa May herself would come up with. I expect we'll only find out when he or she has to spend more time with their family.citizenJA wrote:Theresa May's Tory party speech in Florence
an inappropriate venue, time and place
arrogant, rude and expensive (not just monetarily)
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I'll leave the specifics to AK but Chesterfield constituency and Council were both Libdem for a number of years until relatively recently.
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Excellent.PorFavor wrote:Transport for London (TfL) will not renew Uber's licence.
Edited to add -
Politics Live (Guardian) now has more detail on this story.
The usual suspects hate the decision naturally.
I assume they're not bothered about this story then.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... met-police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Uber has been accused by police of allowing a driver who sexually assaulted a passenger to strike again by not reporting the attack, along with other serious crimes.
In a strongly worded letter, Insp Neil Billany of the Metropolitan police’s taxi and private hire team suggested the company was putting concerns for its reputation over public safety.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Government invests in northern digital railway plans to improve trans-Pennine journeys
Government invests in northern digital railway plans to improve trans-Pennine journeys
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Open consultation
HS2: proposed approach to rail track access and future operation
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Open consultation
HS2: proposed approach to rail track access and future operation
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I expect Theresa May is in last minute rehearsals.
Good afternooon, FLORENCE!!!
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Edited - owing to general ineptitude
Good afternooon, FLORENCE!!!
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Edited - owing to general ineptitude
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The three "o"s were deliberate! Should have been four, maybe?
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You can never have too many "o"'s in my opinioon.
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My kids were very fond of those tins of alphabet spaghetti when they were very little.HindleA wrote:You can never have too many "o"'s in my opinioon.
I did have to persuade them on occasions of limited stock in the shop that it was even better when they were all O
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Hilarious commentary on Theresa May's Florence effort -
". . . an attempt to go over Mr Barnier's head and speak directly to European leaders. They won't be here, of course . . . "
Edited - typo
". . . an attempt to go over Mr Barnier's head and speak directly to European leaders. They won't be here, of course . . . "
Edited - typo
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I did like this bit...
http://www.citymetric.com/transport/tfl ... why-s-good" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Uber. Beloved by the kind of people who have 'libertarian' in their twitter biog and who didn't actually give a shit about the drivers' employment rights before today...
http://www.citymetric.com/transport/tfl ... why-s-good" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This reads a lot like Uber was not only being unhelpful to the authorities, but was actively obstructing them. The impression you get is that the firm saw its relationship with TfL as entirely one-way: we deliver cabs, you say thank you. That’s all very well for 4,000 word manifestos posted on Medium by the sort of tech bro who read Ayn Rand at too formative an age, it isn’t actually a workable transport policy for the real world.
Uber. Beloved by the kind of people who have 'libertarian' in their twitter biog and who didn't actually give a shit about the drivers' employment rights before today...
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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I think you've misunderstood Uber's true character. I saw an interview earlier in which their spokesman expressed great concern for their cab drivers and "their loved ones". I was in tears . . .RogerOThornhill wrote:I did like this bit...
http://www.citymetric.com/transport/tfl ... why-s-good" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This reads a lot like Uber was not only being unhelpful to the authorities, but was actively obstructing them. The impression you get is that the firm saw its relationship with TfL as entirely one-way: we deliver cabs, you say thank you. That’s all very well for 4,000 word manifestos posted on Medium by the sort of tech bro who read Ayn Rand at too formative an age, it isn’t actually a workable transport policy for the real world.
Uber. Beloved by the kind of people who have 'libertarian' in their twitter biog and who didn't actually give a shit about the drivers' employment rights before today...
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Happy birthday AK.
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PorFavor wrote:I'd like to know whose idea the Florence thing was. It doesn't strike me as the sort of thing that Theresa May herself would come up with. I expect we'll only find out when he or she has to spend more time with their family.citizenJA wrote:Theresa May's Tory party speech in Florence
an inappropriate venue, time and place
arrogant, rude and expensive (not just monetarily)
"The Calendars of Patent and Close Rolls contain very little of importance relative to the dealings of the merchants of the Society of the Peruzzi of Florence with Edward III prior to the year 1336. Though they were undoubtedly trading in the country, they do not appear to have been very closely associated with the affairs of the Court.
In 1330 they were acting in concert with the Bardi, as attorneys for the Count of Julich, receiving for him the pension allowed him by Edward III. In 1333, licence was granted to...the Society of the Peruzzi dwelling in England, to take certain of their wools to the staples appointed, and to export them...
Privileges of this kind, also accorded to the Bardi, may be taken as evidence that the Peruzzi were doing considerable private trade. They dealt extensively in wool with the various religious houses - as did the Bardi and others also-and they also cultivated business relations with the nobility...
The Peruzzi family was of considerable importance in Florence.... Bonifazio di Tommaso Peruzzi, who, compelled to leave Florence and visit London in 1339, when the affairs of the company became precarious, died there in 1340, "perchance," says Peruzzi, "from grief, foreseeing the impending catastrophe to his family, and to Florence"...."
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/manche ... 2/pp93-135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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My heart sinks when I see 'government' and 'digital' in the same sentence.HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... e-journeys
Government invests in northern digital railway plans to improve trans-Pennine journeys
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this Tory government allegedly 'investing' can only mean we've been soldgilsey wrote:My heart sinks when I see 'government' and 'digital' in the same sentence.HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... e-journeys
Government invests in northern digital railway plans to improve trans-Pennine journeys
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"Side by side with this industrial and commercial prosperity of Florence there existed social and political unrest, in which usually the merchant societies were deeply involved."
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Picked this up from AS blog
https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/draft-220917/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just for this quote, really.
https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/draft-220917/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just for this quote, really.
I don't understand why other people don't understand this. Whatever we want to export to the EU will have to comply with EU regulations, so the question actually is, do we want to go on exporting to the EU?The key question is whether the UK will have the ability to diverge in regulatory terms from the EU? Will we be able to say no to certain EU directives and regulations, even if we choose to apply others?
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That too.citizenJA wrote:this Tory government allegedly 'investing' can only mean we've been soldgilsey wrote:My heart sinks when I see 'government' and 'digital' in the same sentence.HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... e-journeys
Government invests in northern digital railway plans to improve trans-Pennine journeys
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
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[youtube]D8KkEAvUzDw[/youtube]
Click play and you should be able to watch it!
Click play and you should be able to watch it!
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An interesting question is why our contemporary 'merchant societies' aren't involved in political unrest, apart from the few mouthy brexiteers.citizenJA wrote:"Side by side with this industrial and commercial prosperity of Florence there existed social and political unrest, in which usually the merchant societies were deeply involved."
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/manche ... p93-135#p5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do they still believe it won't happen?
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The level of delusion in this is quite staggering.In his HuffPost UK daily briefing Paul Waugh suggests having a two-year Brexit transition could have implications for the timing of Theresa May’s own exit. He says:
May’s allies think she has proved she is quietly effective on policy substance (her speech hasn’t changed much at all through the week), while Boris has been loudly ineffective. On the politics, rather than policy, Boris has undoubtedly reminded everyone of his role. But some around May think the two-year transition is also a way of extending her own political lifetime, letting her oversee the process with a handover to a new leader in early 2021. That would allow enough time for her successor to prepare for a general election in 2022, while giving the ‘next generation’ of possible Tory leaders time to build their profile.
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...the future is orangeAnd she will say Britain’s future “is bright”.
I've had a really rubbish day. There is very little likelihood May's speech will make my day any better, but if she does say "the future's bright" it's possible she may elicit a small snigger. I mean, seriously?
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Apologies for adding to the spam Guardian links that fill this board, and I am sure most have seen, but this relates to what we were talking about this week
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Sorry you are having a rubbish day.
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The venue is actually this -
Perhaps she could advise them on who best to flog it to.
Well, she should at least feel at home there (if she pretends it's a disused police station).Joe Murphy
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BBC reports that Mrs May is not speaking in the lovely Florentine church at all, but a disused police barracks. Nothing to read into that
2:07 PM - Sep 22, 2017 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Perhaps she could advise them on who best to flog it to.
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Right. I've had enough.
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Just screamed!
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mass migration and terrorism"May says mass migration and terrorism are two examples of challenges to our shared European values that we can only solve in partnership."
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'more shock doctrine than shock doctrine'
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Why has she got a bicycle chain around her neck?
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@Paul I could hear it from here.
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Lenny was given the wrong location.
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"strong and appropriate"
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"smooth and orderly"
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"strong fundmentals" (?)
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troll lingo, thatPorFavor wrote:"strong fundmentals" (?)
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Or possibly orange.She says she is clear that Britain’s future is bright.
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nothing has changed nothing has changed nothing has changed nothing has changed
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Awful. Embarrassing. Even worse than I feared.
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she's not making any sense
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they're furious with her below the line over at the mail. 'That's what happens when you put a remainer in charge - traitor - giving away billions - not good enough - sold britain out
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If I hear the word "creatively" one more time . . .
Michel Barnier must have the song "There's a Hole in my Bucket" running through his head. I know I have. Isn't this more or less where we came in (or went out)?
Michel Barnier must have the song "There's a Hole in my Bucket" running through his head. I know I have. Isn't this more or less where we came in (or went out)?
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her arrogant demandsPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Awful. Embarrassing. Even worse than I feared.
EU nations aren't on the hook for decisions Tory government decides to make
I don't work for your Tory Brexit, ma'am