I'm starting to think this is a possibility (though still no more than that at this stage)Tubby Isaacs wrote:Sadiq calls for second referendum.
Again, though, it would be foolhardy for Labour to commit to such a thing before the "time is right".
I'm starting to think this is a possibility (though still no more than that at this stage)Tubby Isaacs wrote:Sadiq calls for second referendum.
Slight aside, but Leon Rosselson interesting on this,AnatolyKasparov wrote:As everSpinningHugo wrote:Ken Livingstone being helpful
http://talkradio.co.uk/news/scale-labou ... 7092618946" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Most people just ignore him now, very sensibly.
The Sprinkles are taking over.For Corbyn soon emerged as the front runner, with hundreds of thousands of activists joining the party in order to vote for him.
Seems very enlightened for a Tory.It is, simply put, right that we stand up to the tech giants and their poor business practices. A cheap, simple service is not a good enough defence when delivered by a company with poor morals and corporate standards. Conservatives argue that we are the real workers’ party. Therefore it is right that we stand up to companies who treat their workers poorly.
Willow904 wrote:I thought it was positive that John McDonnell had got the media talking about PFI, regardless of how realistic his plans for it are, at least the problems PFI has caused were being discussed.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's quite so positive that John McDonnell has got the media talking about a Labour government causing a run on the pound. Bit of an own goal, I'm afraid.
Yes good point - especially as the current government doesn't much want to talk about runs on the pound!PorFavor wrote:Willow904 wrote:I thought it was positive that John McDonnell had got the media talking about PFI, regardless of how realistic his plans for it are, at least the problems PFI has caused were being discussed.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's quite so positive that John McDonnell has got the media talking about a Labour government causing a run on the pound. Bit of an own goal, I'm afraid.
It was bound to come up sooner or later, though - so it could be argued that he was simply getting in first and was possibly wise to do so.
The way McDonnell put it made it sound like he was expecting a run on the pound in response to Labour fiscal policies if they took power, which makes it sound like Labour policies would be regarded as fiscally reckless. I'm really not sure why it would be helpful to put that idea out there. There's no reason to think there would be a negative reaction to sensible policies such as borrowing for investment etc.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Yes good point - especially as the current government doesn't much want to talk about runs on the pound!PorFavor wrote:Willow904 wrote:I thought it was positive that John McDonnell had got the media talking about PFI, regardless of how realistic his plans for it are, at least the problems PFI has caused were being discussed.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's quite so positive that John McDonnell has got the media talking about a Labour government causing a run on the pound. Bit of an own goal, I'm afraid.
It was bound to come up sooner or later, though - so it could be argued that he was simply getting in first and was possibly wise to do so.
I didn't hear it so shouldn't really comment. Though that doesn't always stop me...Willow904 wrote:The way McDonnell put it made it sound like he was expecting a run on the pound in response to Labour fiscal policies if they took power, which makes it sound like Labour policies would be regarded as fiscally reckless. I'm really not sure why it would be helpful to put that idea out there. There's no reason to think there would be a negative reaction to sensible policies such as borrowing for investment etc.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Yes good point - especially as the current government doesn't much want to talk about runs on the pound!PorFavor wrote:
It was bound to come up sooner or later, though - so it could be argued that he was simply getting in first and was possibly wise to do so.
for the three o'clock afternoon lullAs Ryanair launches a massive seat sale offering one million flights from £4.99, travel insurance companies are warning all air passengers to check the small print of their insurance policies.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017 ... e-policies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight? I don't think there will be, but you never know.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ce-blunder'Leave UK immediately': scientist is latest victim of Home Office blunder
The Home Office is still sending out letters telling lawfully resident immigrants in Britain they must leave the country, a month after the home secretary had to apologise for “an unfortunate error” in mistakenly informing 100 EU nationals that they faced possible deportation.
The Home Office had to issue a further apology on Monday to a research scientist, who received a letter out of the blue on Friday telling him his driving licence was being revoked and he “should take steps to leave the UK immediately”. (Guardian)
It came across differently to me when I read it:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:#WhatMcDonnellActuallySaid
What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight? I don't think there will be, but you never know.
http://news.sky.com/story/john-mcdonnel ... d-11054157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Speaking to a gathering of left-wing Momentum activists, he said: "It tries to answer the question about what happens when or if they come for us.
"What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight?
I just think it's unfair on McDonnell (and I'm not accusing you of doing this) to miss out the next sentence.Willow904 wrote:It came across differently to me when I read it:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:#WhatMcDonnellActuallySaid
What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight? I don't think there will be, but you never know.
http://news.sky.com/story/john-mcdonnel ... d-11054157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Speaking to a gathering of left-wing Momentum activists, he said: "It tries to answer the question about what happens when or if they come for us.
"What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight?
Why would "they", presumably the global markets, come for Labour if they have sensible fiscal plans? It's not like there aren't any other social democratic countries in the world. It made me question what McDonnell is planning I suppose. Why does he expect a negative reaction? I'm not aware the markets have ever gone after Finland, Sweden or Canada, for instance. Centre left socially democratic governments don't normally spook the markets.
I don't suppose others will react to what he said in the same way though. It's just how it came across to me.
"I don't think there will be, but you never know, so we've got to scenario-plan for that.
It came across differently to me when I read it:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight? I don't think there will be, but you never know.
http://news.sky.com/story/john-mcdonnel ... d-11054157" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Speaking to a gathering of left-wing Momentum activists, he said: "It tries to answer the question about what happens when or if they come for us.
"What if there is a run on the pound? What happens if there is this concept of capital flight?
[/quote]"I don't think there will be, but you never know, so we've got to scenario-plan for that.
Despite attempts by Theresa May to circumvent deadlock in Brussels by holding private talks with EU leaders about her latest negotiating stance, Tusk emerged from 90 minutes of discussion in Downing Street with only a slightly warmer response.
“I feel cautiously optimistic about the constructive and more realistic tone of the prime minister’s speech in Florence and our discussion today,” Tusk told reporters. “This shows that the philosophy of having cake and eating it is finally coming to an end. At least I hope so.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ach-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
May's asking for a transition period where everything stays the same except we're no longer a member of the EU. She's asking for it because there's no way we're going to have even an outline of the future trading arrangements before the A50 deadline, imo. In those circumstances there's nothing to vote on before we leave.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I'm starting to think this is a possibility (though still no more than that at this stage)Tubby Isaacs wrote:Sadiq calls for second referendum.
Again, though, it would be foolhardy for Labour to commit to such a thing before the "time is right".
omgHindleA wrote:UPDATE Glenis has changed her blouse.
Starmer just ruled it out.AnatolyKasparov wrote:I'm starting to think this is a possibility (though still no more than that at this stage)Tubby Isaacs wrote:Sadiq calls for second referendum.
Again, though, it would be foolhardy for Labour to commit to such a thing before the "time is right".