I love honeyHoney tests reveal global contamination by bee-harming pesticides
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I'm distraught
I love honeyHoney tests reveal global contamination by bee-harming pesticides
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... pesticides" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You think Brexit is going to be bad for the economy, just wait until you see the other things in store for us in 2020
From trade shifting to emerging markets in the East; joblessness as a result of automation; ageing populations; and the breaching of local and global environmental thresholds, we are in for a rocky ride
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If you're rubbish at scanning, have uppity bags or buy lots of alcohol, you can provide just as much real person employment by using the "self-serve" checkouts as the manned ones, in my experience.tinyclanger2 wrote:automated checkouts are evil
The levels in this article are about 1ng/g, or a max of 10ng/g - this id equivalent to 1-10 microgram per kg or 0.1-1 microgram in a 100g jarcitizenJA wrote:I love honeyHoney tests reveal global contamination by bee-harming pesticides
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... pesticides" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm distraught
I think the harm from neonicotinoid insecticides that is worrying scientists is the threat they pose to bees, without which many crops wouldn't be pollinated. The UK has been ignoring EU directives restricting their use.howsillyofme1 wrote:The levels in this article are about 1ng/g, or a max of 10ng/g - this id equivalent to 1-10 microgram per kg or 0.1-1 microgram in a 100g jarcitizenJA wrote:I love honeyHoney tests reveal global contamination by bee-harming pesticides
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... pesticides" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm distraught
I would like to see what other things that are in there at the same or much higher levels - I very much doubt that these compounds are toxic at these levels which would put it at more than a 1000x toxic than cyanide
Analytical chemists can find pretty much anything in anything if they look hard enough
Oh and honey is full of sugar which is probably far more harmful than ppb levels of these chemicals
But that is not the point of this article - the argument about use of them and effect on bees is another oneI think the harm from neonicotinoid insecticides that is worrying scientists is the threat they pose to bees, without which many crops wouldn't be pollinated. The UK has been ignoring EU directives restricting their use.
One of May’s supporters suggested that since she overcame such horrors, this proves she’s the ideal person to deal with Brexit. He has a point, because during the negotiations, if she manages to complete a sentence with only six or seven pauses for a Lemsip, the Germans will say 'Aren't you clever' and scrap the demand for £50bn
No need to apologise, I'm in complete agreement with you. I refuse to use self-service checkouts. The store requiring customers staff their tills decide their merchandise isn't worth my having to pay for it. They'll not get money from me.tinyclanger2 wrote:apologies for shouting
(but it irks me)
I agree with this - I refuse to use themtinyclanger2 wrote:BECAUSE WE'RE SOCIAL ANIMALS AND EVEN I DON'T WANT TO INTERACT WITH MACHINES ALL THE SODDING TIME
I know. It's stupid, 'self-service' checkouts. More trouble than they're worthWillow904 wrote:If you're rubbish at scanning, have uppity bags or buy lots of alcohol, you can provide just as much real person employment by using the "self-serve" checkouts as the manned ones, in my experience.tinyclanger2 wrote:automated checkouts are evil
None in LIDLcitizenJA wrote:I know. It's stupid, 'self-service' checkouts. More trouble than they're worthWillow904 wrote:If you're rubbish at scanning, have uppity bags or buy lots of alcohol, you can provide just as much real person employment by using the "self-serve" checkouts as the manned ones, in my experience.tinyclanger2 wrote:automated checkouts are evil
I'm with you there. Have always preferred the checkout. Good staff at my local Tesco.citizenJA wrote:I know. It's stupid, 'self-service' checkouts. More trouble than they're worthWillow904 wrote:If you're rubbish at scanning, have uppity bags or buy lots of alcohol, you can provide just as much real person employment by using the "self-serve" checkouts as the manned ones, in my experience.tinyclanger2 wrote:automated checkouts are evil
Or in any of the family owned businesses we are lucky enough to still have in our little townPaulfromYorkshire wrote:None in LIDLcitizenJA wrote:I know. It's stupid, 'self-service' checkouts. More trouble than they're worthWillow904 wrote:
If you're rubbish at scanning, have uppity bags or buy lots of alcohol, you can provide just as much real person employment by using the "self-serve" checkouts as the manned ones, in my experience.
citizenJA wrote:I can moderate my honey intake
I should have made my point more clear
I'm less concerned about the toxicity of the honey than I am with the unsuitability of some insecticides
Bees gone means game over
Greetings all from the wilds of Watford.tinyclanger2 wrote:BECAUSE WE'RE SOCIAL ANIMALS AND EVEN I DON'T WANT TO INTERACT WITH MACHINES ALL THE SODDING TIME
So as to avoid accusations of 'bad parenting due to use of 'cuss' words', I feel it incumbent upon me to remind everyone my children are in their 20's. None of my bad parenting involved swear words when they were still 'children'. I was far more inventive in my crap parenting.Tizme wrote:Greetings all from the wilds of Watford.tinyclanger2 wrote:BECAUSE WE'RE SOCIAL ANIMALS AND EVEN I DON'T WANT TO INTERACT WITH MACHINES ALL THE SODDING TIME
Totally agree with you TC. About 20 ish years ago, I worked with a woman [Joyce] who refused to use cash dispensers. When I asked her why, she replied because it ultimately would lead to banks needing less cashiers, so, loss of jobs. She said it was "the thin edge of the wedge". How right she was.
I must admit, I do occasionally use cash dispensers, but I refuse to use self service checkouts. Also automated payment on the 'phone - though it can be nigh on impossible to get past the automated systems. The children are used to hearing me yelling, "just put me through to a frigging human being you freaking heap of crap" or words to that effect!
It would certainly need a step change and a half in public transport provision, but maybe we shouldn't rule it out. I mean if you could take Uber logistics and couple it with green public transport ideals....HindleA wrote:Banning cars?-Not unless you make exemptions.The bodies would pile up on a daily basis,for a start.Really a solution for those with choice and not reliant on them,directly or indirectly.
HindleA wrote:Banning cars?-Not unless you make exemptions.The bodies would pile up on a daily basis,for a start.Really a solution for those with choice and not reliant on them,directly or indirectly.
For clarity I'm not for banning anything really. I'm quite a small l liberal that way.HindleA wrote:Sorry steadfastly against or at least be conscience of accounting for care workers etc and the taking away of what may be the only avenue of independent travel regardless of public transport.I realise I speak from.a certain perspective.
I am playing devil's advocate but if climate change is the threat it is portrayed as then at some point cars will need to be massively reduced....along with many other changes to our lifestyles.HindleA wrote:Sorry steadfastly against or at least be conscience of accounting for care workers etc and the taking away of what may be the only avenue of independent travel regardless of public transport.I realise I speak from.a certain perspective.
There you go - you discuss something which hasn't actually happened, call it a fact...and whine about it.This is a fact, I'm afraid: if Emily Thornberry or Diane Abbott had coughed and spluttered during their conference speeches, any journalist who ridiculed or mocked them would be accused of misogyny and / or racism. There would be a million thinkpieces. "The sexism of calling out women for having a cold"; "Why focusing on women's physical ailments IS misogyny"; "White men laughing at Diane Abbott's sniffle is what racism looks like". Vice would make a video showing white male politicians coughing too. It would be shared 500,000 times. There'd be gifs of Gove once having a coughing fit. The Guardian would publish a longread on all the times in history women were treated as too prone to illness to engage in public life. Twitter would go into meltdown. Imagine the hashtags. #coughsexismcough But Theresa May is a Tory so she is not covered by the media sisterhood. You're on your own, T!
MrA I am not advocating cars be banned - I am just trying to say (badly) that some of the reactions we have are not actually justified based on the realityHindleA wrote:@howsilly.I don't drive,We have a choice of independent travel.Many don't.Perhaps think of having to be accompanied every time you left the house.
Ideally, but limit, certainly.howsillyofme1 wrote:citizenJA wrote:I can moderate my honey intake
I should have made my point more clear
I'm less concerned about the toxicity of the honey than I am with the unsuitability of some insecticides
Bees gone means game over
Although bees are not the main pollinators - lots of other things are too and I don't think issues with bees will go away with banning of some insecticides.
I don't think anyone wants to see issues with pollinators but farmers have problems with insects damaging crops and will use something else which may or may not be as harmful as the neonics - but are of less interest to the NGO's at the moment. Organic insecticides can be included in this as well
Saying that I am not an expert on the toxic impacts so I will let those who are argue it out and come to a decision
I personally think the mass extinctions caused by climate change is more pressing and has more of an impact on the wildlife than pesticides (which are far less toxic and targeted now than they were in the past) - ban cars anyone?
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