You seem to admire different capabilities than I doSpinningHugo wrote:What I said was *ignoring the policies* (I asterisked it at the time), Cameron was well suited to the role. He was a good front of house performer for the Tories, winning in 2015 when the Tories should have lost badly after years of austerity. This is nothing to do with left v right. Miliband managed to lose an election he should have won easily, and which it becomes increasingly clear was the crucial one.howsillyofme1 wrote:Last week you told us how well suited Cameron was to the role......
I would take my chances with Ed Miliband every time over your guy
For one thing we wouldn’t be in line to leave the EU but then again you never seem to blame Cameron for that funnily enough
It won't avail you if you are right on ths substance, as Labour was in 2015, if you're fronted by a candidate for PM who is obviously not trusted to fufill the role. Miliband's own tragedy was that he didn't see his own limitations. Just like Brown in that regard. The soft left seems to be full of characters like that,
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NB that you don't like the result (and I don't) isn't an argument against the referendum. So, just as you need to be able to distinguish substantive policies and technical proficiency as a political performer (a distinction that eludes you), you'll also need to be able to distinguish between procedural fairness and the substantive outcome.
I doubt you can do that either.
Being able to lie, avoid questions and various other charlatan behaviour is what you admire. Fair enough but excuse me if I accept human frailties and honesty above that
Cameron was one of the most despicable politicians I have ever encountered and my view of him stays very negative
That you admire the values of Cameron above those of Miliband is clear and I will allow others to judge
On my own personal capabilities. I have certain but not infallible and i know that. I like most posters on here for making interesting and relevant points that challenge my, often flawed, opinion
I will leave others to judge but your opinion is the least important as I have no respect for either you character or, alleged by you, intellect
I say again Ed Miliband would have made a more effective PM than Cameron. Cameron may have acted that part but his actual performance can be seen in the current situation