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Strengthening enforcement in gas and electricity markets
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Availability of gluten-free foods on NHS prescription
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Strengthening enforcement in gas and electricity markets
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Availability of gluten-free foods on NHS prescription
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Regional rail usage: 2016 to 2017
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3.5 billion Right-to-Buy 'firesale' threatens scheme
New analysis by the Local Government Association reveals almost £3.5 billion in Right to Buy (RTB) discounts have been handed out to council tenants over the past six years and sparked a social housing “firesale”.
3.5 billion Right-to-Buy 'firesale' threatens scheme
New analysis by the Local Government Association reveals almost £3.5 billion in Right to Buy (RTB) discounts have been handed out to council tenants over the past six years and sparked a social housing “firesale”.
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Dismissing Fergus
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Dismissing Fergus
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Council wrong' to stop care home fees, says ombudsman
Council wrong' to stop care home fees, says ombudsman
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Obvious Tory selfish bin placing neighbours selling up.I was always pleasant even when faced with accusatory letter of blocking drains with pads,pushed through letter box (unspoken assumption/suspiscion of adapted property)and follow up letter from water authority.The fact of impossibilty not withstanding.There is always one up their own arse ignoramus in any community.
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"Not so subtle"
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Morning all.
I'm just off to Oxford for the day so will pop my head round the door when I'm back later.
I'm just off to Oxford for the day so will pop my head round the door when I'm back later.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise
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In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
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A rare commendation from me for BBC Laura K giving May a proper hard time!
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good-afternoon, everyone
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Richard Handley's Inquest
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Patients 'sent home to no heat or light'
Patients 'sent home to no heat or light'
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Helps them become more "self reliant" or something.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... man-rights (as referenced, earlier, by HindleA)
Nothing, provided that the UK does exactly what we want it to do in exchange for the odd treat. Muscle-flexing, and a calculated jibe - (deliberately) not even very well disguised as a compliment. This should be very worrying for everyone.China commends Theresa May for 'sidestepping' human rights
“May will definitely not make any comment contrary to the goals of her China trip … For the prime minister, the losses outweigh the gains if she appeases the British media at the cost of the visit’s friendly atmosphere.”
The Global Times’ Chinese-language edition agreed western media “mudslinging” was an exercise in futility. “Nothing can stop China-UK cooperation: noise and nagging will be carried away by the wind,” it said. (Guardian)
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I was prepared for the news in the article to be depressing but it was worse.
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Yes - the header should probably have read "China commands Theresa May . . ."citizenJA wrote:I was prepared for the news in the article to be depressing but it was worse.
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Although China probably only runs things along Theresa May's preferred lines, anyway - so I'm assuming that she doesn't see this as a humiliation. However, it may not play so well with the public ("Brexiters" or otherwise). She's not very good at all this stuff, is she?
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Corbyn will be in Amber Valley tomorrow at a secret location revealed once you reserve your seat by 4.30pm today.How the fuck do I know if I can get there if I don't know where it is if I wanted to go.
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Shame Izzard wasn't elected,though I hope some of his ideas come to fruition.
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Don't tell me that the Labour Party has bought into the "post-geography" crap . . .HindleA wrote:Corbyn will be in Amber Valley tomorrow at a secret location revealed once you reserve your seat by 4.30pm today.How the fuck do I know if I can get there if I don't know where it is if I wanted to go.
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Bex Bailey sent me a nice card and has neat writing.This may be crucial in my decision next Saturday in Arkwright Town which was relocated twenty odd years ago due to methane gas.
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No roll-up enclosed? (Although that would probably be classed as an electoral bribe.)HindleA wrote:Bex Bailey sent me a nice card and has neat writing.This may be crucial in my decision next Saturday in Arkwright Town which was relocated twenty odd years ago due to methane gas.
Long live handwritten, though!
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I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
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PF working hard for vote,recap what we discussed etc.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
They clearly loathe one another. I'm with the mayor.
The Campaign group have never forgotten anything, and will never forgive. See the composition of the shadow cabinet.
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The response to the question "can you say the alphabet backwards" is a good guide.
They are various possibilities.
They are various possibilities.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise
What a peculiar view. Why?
If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.
Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
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Loathe is a strong word....any evidence to back up the use of the word in conjunction with word clearlySpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
They clearly loathe one another. I'm with the mayor.
The Campaign group have never forgotten anything, and will never forgive. See the composition of the shadow cabinet.
I doubt they are best friends but it is a long way from there to loathe
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The polls are worthless....there is no test outside a general election and their recent prediction accuracy has been down there with yoursSpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
I also sense some glee in your post
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AK is our by election guru (sorry AK) so if his initial reaction says that this was not about Brexit then I tend to believe him over you unless you have some working to back it upSpinningHugo wrote:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise
What a peculiar view. Why?
If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.
Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
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WoefulPaulfromYorkshire wrote:A rare commendation from me for BBC Laura K giving May a proper hard time!
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Aha I think you misunderstood me. My fault - not entirely clear.SpinningHugo wrote:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise
What a peculiar view. Why?
If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.
Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
There were two by-elections, in Sunderland and Falmouth. Which would you predict to be more strongly Leave / Remain? So, if Brexit were a big issue, an allegedly pro-Brexit Labour party would perhaps have fared relatively better in Sunderland and worse in Falmouth, the opposite of what happened.
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Got you, thanks.
I think we can agree that nobody thinks imuch to do with Brexit.
Got you, thanks.
I think we can agree that nobody thinks imuch to do with Brexit.
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Fixing our broken housing market: consultation
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Proposed changes to the prudential framework of capital finance
The government published a consultation document on the proposed changes to Local Authorities Investments Guidance and the Minimum Revenue Provision Guidance in November 2017. This document sets out decisions the government has taken, as a basis for updating the prudential framework.
Consultation outcome
Fixing our broken housing market: consultation
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Proposed changes to the prudential framework of capital finance
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I think May might actually be helping Labour - she keeps making out that they are for staying in - this is the same theme that Baker uses in the HoC as well
So we have the Tories saying Labour are staying in, the FBPE lot are saying the opposite. The party themselves are being nnon-commital
Difficult for the attacks to stick if they are so different
Nobody thinks the Tories are for a close relationship with Europe - some backbenchers are and Hammond tries but May is pretty clear they are still going for the red lines
So we have the Tories saying Labour are staying in, the FBPE lot are saying the opposite. The party themselves are being nnon-commital
Difficult for the attacks to stick if they are so different
Nobody thinks the Tories are for a close relationship with Europe - some backbenchers are and Hammond tries but May is pretty clear they are still going for the red lines
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Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.
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(cJA bold)May is defending a line that her own government has already surrendered. Only last week, Philip Hammond, the chancellor, David Davis, the Brexit secretary, and Greg Clark, the business secretary, signed a joint letter to business leaders promising maximum continuity of existing arrangements in transition. It has explicit reassurance on the movement of labour. They wrote: “Citizens will continue to be able to come and live and work in the UK, with no new barriers to taking up employment.”
It is worth noting also that May has nothing to say about how limiting the entitlements of EU citizens in transition affects Britons wanting to live and work abroad after March 2019. She cannot conceive of free movement as a reciprocal benefit, only as a cost inflicted by “them” on “us”. It would not occur to her that pinching stingily at the rights of foreigners diminishes UK citizenship too.
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Apologies for the lengthy quote, I'm tired. I've felt this latest pronouncement from Theresa May like a pain in my body. She's a liar, she's no integrity and she's not trustworthy. No one is safe, no one.
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Ah, I forgot that you were a body language - not to mention mind reading - expert. In addition to all your other skillsSpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
They clearly loathe one another
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There's an image of T May shaking hands with Xi Jinping in China within the articleTheresa May, I fear that both of us will have to get used to disappointment
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May has on her signature chain links 'round neck and wrist
Xi Jinping has an odd expression on his face, like a distressed person attempting a smile
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah, I forgot that you were a body language - not to mention mind reading - expert. In addition to all your other skillsSpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?
Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
They clearly loathe one another
Lol. I don't think it needs any super powers to know what Khan thinks of Corbyn, or Corbyn's attitude towards all who moved against him.
Forgive and forget is not the Campaign group way.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.
You think the Tories are doing well on the issue of Brexit?
Do you follow the news?
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Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s troubles home and away
Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s troubles home and away
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Even leaving aside the pro-Tory leanings of much of the media, most voters don't follow these things in detail.SpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.
You think the Tories are doing well on the issue of Brexit?
Do you follow the news?
They still think that May and the Tories are "pro-Brexit", and that is enough for them.
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