Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd March 2025

[refitman]

Morning all.

[Frog222]

Morning
Starting off with a cheap LOL --

[Frog222]

Hook Line and Sinker, and Trump was landed

[Frog222]

"" You draw straight lines with a ruler, a ruler not like a king but "" ...

[Frog222]

At a vote in November, the UK was among only nine countries who voted No when adopting the terms of reference for the UN Tax convention negotiations. The other opponents were Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Republic of Korea, and the United States.

[refitman]

The folly of austerity. Will anyone in power ever actually learn this?

[refitman]

[Frog222]

Chris Riddell

[Frog222]

Do they still have dungeons at the Tower ?

"It was reported in 2019 that less than a year after he was knighted for services to business and investment, Ratcliffe was planning to avoid up to £4bn in tax by switching his residence and fortune to Monaco. Ratcliffe has responded that he employs thousands of people in the UK and contributes hundreds of millions of pounds to the economy.

The Glazer family, who made their fortune from shopping centres in the US, still control the majority of voting rights at United. Ineos, meanwhile, is in charge of sporting operations at the club.

Since becoming co-owner, Ratcliffe has presided over approximately 450 job cuts at the club and other cost savings, including closing down the staff canteen at Old Trafford. He warned this month that United would have been “bust at Christmas” without these measures."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... um-project

[refitman]

[refitman]

Noted human rights lawyer Sir Keir Starmer will be along any minute to sort this out.

[refitman]

Anyone been looking for a live, orchestral performance of a hip-hop space opera? Because I found it

[refitman]

McSweeney is a fucking idiot

[Sky'sGoneOut]

Do we think the Labour right will be up in arms about this in the same way they were last time Labour was investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission?

Labour benefit cuts may breach equality law, says human rights watchdog

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... es-budget/

Labour’s proposed benefit cuts will be investigated by a human rights watchdog for potentially breaking equality law.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has said it is considering whether the plans set out by Liz Kendall to cut disability benefits comply with the Equality Act.

A spokesman for the EHRC said: “The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) must consider the equality impact of the proposed benefit reforms on disabled people.

“The public sector equality duty (PSED) requires government departments to have due regard for how their policies and decisions affect people with protected characteristics.”

[Frog222]

For all our sports enthusiasts --



Negative travel advisories out in a large part of the world already ...

[refitman]

That can't be right Sky. We've been told repeatedly that it's not going to be that bad, it will only affect a small number of people and There Is No Alternative - sometimes on this very forum. Surely it can't actually be a bad thing, that will harm many, many people?

[Frog222]

McSweeney is a fucking idiot

" Polling indicates that a majority would return to the fold "

Apart from the fact that a huge amount could change between now and then , a 'majority' is anything from 50.01 upwards .........

[refitman]

Just another reminder that Streeting is a terrible human being - and is causing harm NOW

[Sky'sGoneOut]

In regard to what I posted above Labour are clearly determined to head off any legal challenges or human right's investigations at the pass. The question will be how many Labour MPS will be prepared to vote for something which unquestionably breaches the human rights of the disabled under the human rights/equalities acts. It's utterly cynical, underhand, and denies millions of people democratic and legal recourse.

Labour risks PIP cuts vote in order to breach claimants’ human rights

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/ ... man-rights

Labour is prepared to risk a backbench revolt by allowing a vote on cuts to Personal Independence Payment (PIP), in order to be sure it can breach claimants’ human rights without worrying about legal repercussions, Benefits and Work believes.

When the Pathways to Work Green paper was published, it contained the surprising information that the changes to PIP scores and the cuts to universal credit (UC) payments would be introduced by primary legislation – an Act of Parliament.

Surprising, because these changes would normally be done using Statutory Instruments (SIs). This is delegated legislation that does not require a vote in Parliament, just a signature from the secretary of state.

So, why give MPs and Lords a vote on a highly controversial issue when it isn’t at all necessary?

The argument that it is being done in the interests of democracy is not one that can be taken seriously. Not when Labour have refused to consult with the public, and particularly disabled claimants, over these changes which will have such a dramatic effect on their lives.

But there is a more obvious reason.

SIs can be challenged in court, usually by judicial review, and have some of their provisions removed or the entire instrument quashed. The Human Rights Act is often the basis of such challenges.

The situation is very different where an Act of Parliament, rather than an SI, is involved.

In the UK, parliament is sovereign. Because an act has gone through the whole extensive democratic process of scrutiny and debate by both the Commons and the Lords, courts cannot overturn the provisions of an Act of Parliament.

The most they can do is inform the government that particular provisions of an act are in breach of, for example, the Human Rights Act or the Equality Act.

But the government does not have to do anything about the court’s findings. It can simply shrug its shoulders and carry on regardless.

Benefits and Work suspects that the DWP have very strong grounds to fear that both the changes to the PIP points system and the cuts to the LCWRA element of UC are in breach of the Human Rights Act and/or the Equality Act.

And that, we believe, is why they are to be made law via a single Act of Parliament that the courts can’t touch.

Once again, we remind readers that In the Green paper, the DWP claim that “We are committed to putting the views and voices of disabled people and people with health conditions at the heart of everything we do.”

Disabled people’s human rights, on the other hand, can be safely ignored.

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That can't be right Sky. We've been told repeatedly that it's not going to be that bad, it will only affect a small number of people and There Is No Alternative - sometimes on this very forum. Surely it can't actually be a bad thing, that will harm many, many people?

Millions of people if you include these people's families, losing the independence PIP provides doesn't just effect the claimant but those who will then be obliged to care for them. And what's even worse is if the person you care for loses their PIP you then as a carer lose the eligibility to claim carer's allowance.

This all has massive knock on effects for people's lives and finances across society and McSweeney really is a fucking idiot if he thinks those affected will shrug their shoulders and vote Labour regardless after being utterly betrayed like this.

[refitman]

You know how the Treasury keep moaning about not having any money...

[Frog222]

After seeing 'Petey's' face, here is another creep --





At least Starmer didn't say he'd prayed for Trump after the near-miss shooting ... Hats off to Putrid for that inspired bit of bullshit .

Lapped up by the moron Witkoff.

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[refitman]

Coupled with them trying to force all disabled people into work, this is particularly grim. Party of the workers my arse.

[Frog222]

Coupled with them trying to force all disabled people into work, this is particularly grim. Party of the workers my arse.

Refit, that's ""Woke"" stuff and we at the New World Order UK Branch are doing our bit to turn the tide .