Wednesday 26th September 2018
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Wednesday 26th September 2018
Morning all.
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@HindleA from last night
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Morning all.
Quiet start here! Just come back from taking Y5 swimming...
Quiet start here! Just come back from taking Y5 swimming...
Correct - and there's no evidence that it boosts tax receipts either. Correlation ain't causation!Simon Tilford
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No evidence that cuts in UK corporate rates have boosted investment. And reducing them to the 'lowest in the G20' will leave government with less money to spend on the public goods - education, health care, infrastructure etc - that firms rely on.
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It is quiet innit, everybody just waiting for Jez's big speech?
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I'm doing a local history talk this afternoon so sadly I will miss it.
Be interesting if he touches on anti-Semitism...
Be interesting if he touches on anti-Semitism...
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I expect it might get a brief mention. Maybe more interesting is the pre-speech spin that he will be majoring on "green" stuff?
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Did you see the tweet saying Panasonic are moving their HQ to Europe, partly because of Brexit, but mainly because Japan is treating/going to treat any country with CT rates below 20% as a tax haven? When I come across it again I'll post it here.RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Quiet start here! Just come back from taking Y5 swimming...
Correct - and there's no evidence that it boosts tax receipts either. Correlation ain't causation!Simon Tilford
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No evidence that cuts in UK corporate rates have boosted investment. And reducing them to the 'lowest in the G20' will leave government with less money to spend on the public goods - education, health care, infrastructure etc - that firms rely on.
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https://www.bna.com/insight-panasonic-r ... 014482733/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit or no Brexit, the tax regime in the U.K. is potentially problematic for Japanese companies, after Japan announced an overhaul of its controlled foreign company (“CFC”) rules in 2017.
CFC rules are widely used by jurisdictions around the world to prevent the artificial deferral of corporate tax by using entities established in low tax jurisdictions.
Without CFC rules, Company A, incorporated in a high tax jurisdiction, could establish a subsidiary, Company B, in a low tax jurisdiction and shelter profits from tax. CFC rules dissuade this type of activity by attributing the income of the low tax subsidiary to the parent company on a current basis.
The Japanese government announced in January 2017 that it would be overhauling its CFC regime, taking into account the recommendations of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development base erosion and profit shifting (“BEPS”) Action 3.
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Decent speech thus far......
Corbyn has improved quite a bit as a speaker in the past 3 years.
Corbyn has improved quite a bit as a speaker in the past 3 years.
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Hmm, not sure about The Red Flag & Jerusalem being followed by 'Children of the Revolution'
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BBC having to be not totally dismissive of it, must hurt.
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Apparently there were 5 speakers and 7 audience members at a Progress event earlier.
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Such a deal would involve NI remaining in the single market as proposed by the EU, thus there will still be a border in the Irish sea, even if we remain in a Customs Union of some sorts. At least, that's my understanding.If you deliver a deal that includes a customs union and no hard border in Ireland, if you protect jobs, people’s rights at work and environmental and consumer standards - then we will support that sensible deal.
This is the circle that Theresa May can't square for very obvious (DUP) reasons, but would Labour fare any better in selling this plan? Is it any less likely to end up in a break up of the United Kingdom? There are benefits to a customs union, but they are most beneficial to a manufacturing country such as Turkey. We will still lose all the economic benefits of the single market. What advantage is Labour offering to the country in return for losing those economic benefits, beyond appeasing anti-immigrant leave voters?
Corbyn handily outlines the things the Tory party will be freed up to indulge in by a hard Brexit, a regulatory race to the bottom, but there's little here for left wing voters other than a "we won't stuff the country up quite as badly as the Tories would". Utterly depressing.
Edited to add I mean Brexit is utterly depressing, not Labour!
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In the midst of Brexit lies and chaos, some people have not lost their sense of humour:
http://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2018/09 ... usted.html
https://twitter.com/i/moments/1044617621054922753
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Anybody asked Mr Angell for comment?refitman wrote:Apparently there were 5 speakers and 7 audience members at a Progress event earlier.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ent-speech" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Crace ! JC for more than an hour, you lucky people .
Crace ! JC for more than an hour, you lucky people .
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When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
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Its an hour that passed fairly quickly tbh, as I said earlier this is one area where he has changed since 2015 - for the better.frog222 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ent-speech
Crace ! JC for more than an hour, you lucky people .
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I think it's meant to be a sort of reciprocal clap - but, yes, it is a bit weird. People seem to applaud themselves in lots of different settings nowadays. I think it's an American gameshow import.frog222 wrote:When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
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Being pre-NHS I had wondered if it was a question of advancing age, general curmudgeonlinessPorFavor wrote:I think it's meant to be a sort of reciprocal clap - but, yes, it is a bit weird. People seem to applaud themselves in lots of different settings nowadays. I think it's an American gameshow import.frog222 wrote:When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
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Well well
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 56211.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Corbyn looks like a PM in waiting.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 56211.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Corbyn looks like a PM in waiting.
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The NHS would be my first port of call if I were suffering from reciprocal clap.frog222 wrote:Being pre-NHS I had wondered if it was a question of advancing age, general curmudgeonlinessPorFavor wrote:I think it's meant to be a sort of reciprocal clap - but, yes, it is a bit weird. People seem to applaud themselves in lots of different settings nowadays. I think it's an American gameshow import.frog222 wrote:When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
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Ed Miliband disliked getting applause; he'd make slight stop-clapping-for-me gesturesPorFavor wrote:I think it's meant to be a sort of reciprocal clap - but, yes, it is a bit weird. People seem to applaud themselves in lots of different settings nowadays. I think it's an American gameshow import.frog222 wrote:When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
their work is public service
they're not band members
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Not what that outfit's "star columnist" Ren-tool saidPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Well well
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/je ... 56211.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Corbyn looks like a PM in waiting.
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Ever since Americans.frog222 wrote:When did people begin to clap themselves when they arrived on a stage ?
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Rod Liddle and JRM on Question Time this week? Good luck Sky.
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Btw it looks like KRM's bid to take full control of Sky is going to end in dismal failure. No thanks to our actual government, of course.
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Different Skys I presume!
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I see we have appointed a minister for rationing.
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How can that possibly be - a No Deal will go so well - everyone says so!adam wrote:I see we have appointed a minister for rationing.
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