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Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Garbled zit slurs supporting Boris on Radio 4 (3,5).
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I find it baffling that someone can look at Johnson's hopeless record at the FCO and conclude that he would be an excellent PM.
But then this is Truss we're talking about here...
OK, off for my usual busy Wednesday.
But then this is Truss we're talking about here...
OK, off for my usual busy Wednesday.
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I was thinking the same myself until I remembered how surprised everyone seemed to be that Theresa May was utterly incompetent, despite all the evidence from her stint as Home Secretary.
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About the only thing you can say in favour of May is that she's reasonably dignified in public, if ABdPJ gets in we won't even have that.
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When you are in a Cabinet position, you can blame things going wrong on the person at the top - as PM there is nowhere to hide however.Willow904 wrote:I was thinking the same myself until I remembered how surprised everyone seemed to be that Theresa May was utterly incompetent, despite all the evidence from her stint as Home Secretary.
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There are going to be a lot of people to blame. May for bringing us to this point instead of doing it differently earlier. Parliament for getting in the way. The Civil Service for taking control of May. Europe for not giving us what we want. Labour just because.AnatolyKasparov wrote:When you are in a Cabinet position, you can blame things going wrong on the person at the top - as PM there is nowhere to hide however.Willow904 wrote:I was thinking the same myself until I remembered how surprised everyone seemed to be that Theresa May was utterly incompetent, despite all the evidence from her stint as Home Secretary.
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Oh of course, to the true believers Brexit can never fail - just be failed.
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I have asked many MPs present if they have any second thoughts about turning the country into an international embarrassment.
The consensus view is that they are “saving the country from embarrassment.”
It’s over. All hope is lost.
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I have asked many MPs present if they have any second thoughts about turning the country into an international embarrassment.
The consensus view is that they are “saving the country from embarrassment.”
It’s over. All hope is lost.
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Johnson actually getting a few proper questions at his campaign launch - to which he blustered in now familiar fashion.
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Jessica Elgot very cross that when one journalist asked Johnson whether he agreed with his own words written in his own newspaper column there were boos from other MPs present.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Johnson actually getting a few proper questions at his campaign launch - to which he blustered in now familiar fashion.
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Unclad Anna shuffles telling Esther McVey she is wrong about St Helena Airport (4,6).
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I mean, she is thick as the proverbial porcine waste product as well as hideously vain and gruesomely unpleasant isn't she?
Genuinely horrific creature, any Tory MP who votes for her needs looking at.
Genuinely horrific creature, any Tory MP who votes for her needs looking at.
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Apparently she suggested that it was a waste of overseas aid on a poorly designed airport.
It seems the airport is actually ok. But the absurd thing is that St Helena is of course a British colony!
It seems the airport is actually ok. But the absurd thing is that St Helena is of course a British colony!
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Government survives No Deal vote.
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Thanks very much, Rory!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Government survives No Deal vote.
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Yes thanks Rory and probably some Labour rebels.
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Ignore Boris Johnson’s bluster about Brexit. He wants a general election
Ignore Boris Johnson’s bluster about Brexit. He wants a general election
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HmmWillow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw
Ignore Boris Johnson’s bluster about Brexit. He wants a general election
Didn't convince me.
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Yet I can't see Boris Johnson being willing to take on the work of running a minority government. Obviously it would be better for the Tories to go to the country after successfully delivering Brexit, but can it be done with the current hung parliament? And before the honeymoon period is over and everyone starts noticing he's lazy and useless?
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From the subheading of the articleWillow904 wrote:Yet I can't see Boris Johnson being willing to take on the work of running a minority government. Obviously it would be better for the Tories to go to the country after successfully delivering Brexit, but can it be done with the current hung parliament? And before the honeymoon period is over and everyone starts noticing he's lazy and useless?
Really? It's a difficult question but I tend to think that at the very least these fucking idiots believe what they say, however ludicrous what they say is. I know it doesn't make any practical difference but if one of them (and it does seem overwhelmingly likely to be him) comes to power saying 'obviously I've been wrong about all of this all of this time' I think it will be time to start a major campaign about turning up and shouting filthy abuse at them whenever they appear in public.He knows a better Brexit deal isn’t possible,
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8 Labour MPs voted against I think (all were usual suspects)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Yes thanks Rory and probably some Labour rebels.
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And there was me thinking the other choices were one of either dim, vile, useless, or dangerous. By contrast RS seems relatively normal.Tom Slater
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The liberal-left's enthusiasm for patrician Tory Rory Stewart is strange. I can't help but think this is about some quiet longing among the intelligentsia to be ruled by aristocrats / the upper-middle-classes. This oh-so-smart former colonial governor, he'll sort us out. Creepy!
I wonder when Spiked are going to come out and say that Boris is their choice for PM?
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I'm watching the Press Preview (Sky News).
According to the Times, Boris Johnson has privately assured "Brexiters" that he could suspend Parliament to force through no-deal. (That, despite the Telegraph saying that a leaked document states that we are nowhere near prepared for a no-deal exit in October.)
According to the Times, Boris Johnson has privately assured "Brexiters" that he could suspend Parliament to force through no-deal. (That, despite the Telegraph saying that a leaked document states that we are nowhere near prepared for a no-deal exit in October.)
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This may have been answered already but does the PM have the power to suspend Parliament?
I would have thought that was in the hands of the Speaker.
I would have thought that was in the hands of the Speaker.
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