Monday 7th September 2020
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Monday 7th September 2020
Morning all.
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Eustice on Toady -- " higher food prices are fine if we get our freedom!"
( He didn't actually say that , but it was implied. Strongly.)
Nick Robinson not giving him an easy time --
" So on 'Australian terms', you could also say .... Mauritanian terms ? "
No clues from Adler or Kuenssberg on what 'concessions' from either side would look like .
8° , sunny !
( He didn't actually say that , but it was implied. Strongly.)
Nick Robinson not giving him an easy time --
" So on 'Australian terms', you could also say .... Mauritanian terms ? "
No clues from Adler or Kuenssberg on what 'concessions' from either side would look like .
8° , sunny !
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Fishing history --
From the article it's not completely impossible that a messy solution involving yearly haggling over quotas could be found ...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... trade-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The acrimony of the debate has some echoes with the British entry negotiations to join the European Community 50 years ago, when the government was presented with a fait accompli on fishing.
Only eight hours after accession talks had begun on 30 June 1970, the British got an unwelcome surprise: the six EC members had agreed to have a common fisheries policy (CFP), hammering out a speedy deal that had eluded them for 12 years just as fish-rich Britain, Ireland, Denmark and Norway were knocking at the door.
“I think they knew quite well they had pulled a sharp one,” Sir Richard Packer, a former British official involved in entry negotiations in 1971-2, told the Guardian.
Fishing became one of the most poisonous issues of entry talks, leading British officials to doubt whether they would get enough votes in parliament to join the common market. (Norway rejected EC entry over fishing.) “The question of fisheries was economic peanuts, but political dynamite,” wrote the late Sir Con O’Neill, the UK chief negotiator, in his account of the talks from 1972.
From the article it's not completely impossible that a messy solution involving yearly haggling over quotas could be found ...
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50 years and we can't move on, it's pathetic.The question of fisheries was economic peanuts, but political dynamite
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From the G business live.
You don't say.The current strengthening in the UK housing market is ‘unsustainable’, reckons economist Howard Archer of EY Item Club.
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Kuenssberg is leaving BBC.frog222 wrote:
No clues from Adler or Kuenssberg on what 'concessions' from either side would look like .
8° , sunny !
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2011-06 ... -itv-news/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Dmitry Grozoubinski
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Later this year, the last messages out of Europe before it is destroyed in a nuclear exchange between the UK and France over fishing rights will be tweets from me and @SamuelMarcLowe saying we think a trade deal is still the most likely outcome.
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Admirably concise.
Robert Saunders
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4. Ultimately, Johnson can't swerve the choice on Northern Ireland. If the UK is outside the Single Market, there must either be checks in the Irish Sea or on the island of Ireland. If he legislates against the former, he'll get the latter. And God help the peace process. [ENDS]
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Government has no plan to reach its own climate target, experts warn
You don't say.
Right, I'm repeating myself so off to do something useful. Later.
You don't say.
Right, I'm repeating myself so off to do something useful. Later.
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She may well be (there are certainly rumours to that effect) but you have just linked to a piece from 20*11*gilsey wrote:Kuenssberg is leaving BBC.frog222 wrote:
No clues from Adler or Kuenssberg on what 'concessions' from either side would look like .
8° , sunny !
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2011-06 ... -itv-news/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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The whereabouts of Laura K remains a mystery as far as I'm aware. After breaking electoral laws by revealing information about the postal vote before the close of polls on election day, I'm surprised anyone still thinks her fit to be a political correspondent anyway.
https://www.realitytitbit.com/bbc/where ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.realitytitbit.com/bbc/where ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Well there was that and uncritically reporting as confirmed fact a totally fictitious "assault" by a Labour activist on one of Hancock's aides.
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Ha! I thought she looked young in the pic, should have checked.AnatolyKasparov wrote:
She may well be (there are certainly rumours to that effect) but you have just linked to a piece from 20*11*
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So is the current "dead cat" threatening no deal to distract from the latest virus snarl-ups, engineering another virus mess to distract from the looming threat of no deal, or......??
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" The whereabouts of Laura K remains a mystery " !Willow904 wrote:The whereabouts of Laura K remains a mystery as far as I'm aware. After breaking electoral laws by revealing information about the postal vote before the close of polls on election day, I'm surprised anyone still thinks her fit to be a political correspondent anyway.
https://www.realitytitbit.com/bbc/where ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She was on Toady this morning !
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Whilst not as out of date as the previous link I cited, that was posted on Thursday
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Report back from grandsons of 11 and 13, and their parents teaching in secondary and lycée–
Masks are worn everywhere, except when actually eating in the cafeteria, and there is regular handgelling of course .
They’ve all got used to it, tho teaching language pronunciation is shit ! It would be far easier with a visor but the Authorities are inflexible, blast them.
Teachers wear them , even in the staff room, compared to this horrible experience from Anonymous Teacher–
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... MXCtiguy67" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;–c5A_1CCXaS4
I read it again . What an awful country you have if even teachers are so dumb.
In the whole of daughter's lycée one student was traced as a ‘contact’ , so is off in quarantine awaiting a test etc .
Masks are worn everywhere, except when actually eating in the cafeteria, and there is regular handgelling of course .
They’ve all got used to it, tho teaching language pronunciation is shit ! It would be far easier with a visor but the Authorities are inflexible, blast them.
Teachers wear them , even in the staff room, compared to this horrible experience from Anonymous Teacher–
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... MXCtiguy67" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;–c5A_1CCXaS4
I read it again . What an awful country you have if even teachers are so dumb.
In the whole of daughter's lycée one student was traced as a ‘contact’ , so is off in quarantine awaiting a test etc .
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2019-intake Tory MP Selaine Saxby tells the Commons that after observing Extinction Rebellion protests she has concluded they are “intent on disrupting society, rather than working together with this government". Well.... yes.
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Oops.
Coronavirus: Positive test at Coalville school
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-54056155" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Coronavirus: Positive test at Coalville school
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-54056155" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A number of classes and tutor groups at a secondary school have been told to stay home after a staff member tested positive for Covid-19.
The Castle Rock School in Coalville, Leicestershire, said it was a "precautionary measure".
Prime Minister Boris Johnson visited the school on 26 August as it and others across the county reopened.
The school - which said it found out about the positive result on Sunday evening - said safety was "paramount".
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/710746 ... f-pandemic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Another doctor, from an EU country, said they planned to return home as a result of the fiasco over high taxes levied on NHS doctors’ pensions and “the xenophobia and at least weekly mockery of my accent (from consultant colleagues and other staff),” adding: “I’m absolutely certain I’m making the right decision but also sad to be leaving a system that, despite all, still provides such great care. But I’m done sacrificing my mental and physical health for it.”
Bloody stupid forriners can't take a joke, anyway one less salary to pay, all going splendidly !
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Keir Starmer
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Tonight, Conservative MPs voted against putting into law the implementation of the Grenfell Inquiry Phase I recommendations.
A shameful dereliction of duty.
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What more could he do ?RogerOThornhill wrote:Keir Starmer
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Tonight, Conservative MPs voted against putting into law the implementation of the Grenfell Inquiry Phase I recommendations.
A shameful dereliction of duty.
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Goodnight, everyone.
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It was for their action rather than as a comment on Starmer.frog222 wrote:What more could he do ?RogerOThornhill wrote:Keir Starmer
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Tonight, Conservative MPs voted against putting into law the implementation of the Grenfell Inquiry Phase I recommendations.
A shameful dereliction of duty.
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Well, who'd have thunk it?
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Darran Marshall
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Flag of European UnionFlag of United Kingdom #Brexit
Compare & Contrast....
January: Signed & Sealed.
September: Deal never made sense
#TomorrowsPapersToday
Darran Marshall
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Small blue diamondNovember: Boris Johnson reveals that every Conservative parliamentary candidate has personally pledged to vote his #Brexit deal through the House of Commons.
Small blue diamondSeptember: Deal never made sense.
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Normally this would be a resigning matter but this is Boris we're talking about. If his party don't look at this and think "Bloody hell, we're toast with you in charge" then there really is no hope for them.david allen green
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Johnson personally re-negotiated this withdrawal agreement.
He put it before the electorate at a general election, and he won an overall majority
He put it before the House of Commons, and he won a majority
He boasted of it as 'oven-ready'
This is *his* agreement
He owns it
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