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Saturday, 3rd October and Sunday, 4th October 2020
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Not as good as this one:
Herman Cain - "there IS no virus!!", Virus - "there IS no Herman Cain!"
Herman Cain - "there IS no virus!!", Virus - "there IS no Herman Cain!"
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Morning all.
This is a great thread about "Oh, we didn't sign up to x,y,z"...
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This is a great thread about "Oh, we didn't sign up to x,y,z"...
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As I was reading the contributions to this article about whether black history ought to be in the National Curriculum separately I had this dread feeling about who was coming up next...
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Calvin Robinson, education consultant, former teacher and campaigner for Don’t Divide Us
Ah yes, the former IT teacher turned activist....
David Olusoga makes, as you would expect, some excellent points about focusing on US history at the expense of our own - even though the events are largely within the same timeframe. I wonder whether, as it is within people's living memory, it's a bit too raw, too embarrassing to admit that life was like that for Black Britons?
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Calvin Robinson, education consultant, former teacher and campaigner for Don’t Divide Us
Ah yes, the former IT teacher turned activist....
David Olusoga makes, as you would expect, some excellent points about focusing on US history at the expense of our own - even though the events are largely within the same timeframe. I wonder whether, as it is within people's living memory, it's a bit too raw, too embarrassing to admit that life was like that for Black Britons?
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Dearie me, still using that excuse?
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James Cleverly - "We are going to repair the country that we inherited from Labour."
When you've been in power for ten years- even if you believed the spurious excuse in the first place- it wears a bit thin.
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IIRC the last sighting of "the previous Labour government" in Tory apologia post-1979 didn't come until circa 1995.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... irst-signsUK Covid testing cutoff quietly extended to eight days after first signs
Exclusive: confusion as helpline staff say tests not accurate after more than five days
Staff reacted with surprise and bemusement to the change on Friday. The reason behind the move was unclear, but there will be suggestions that it is intended to help manage stretched capacity. To control the spread of coronavirus, it is vital that potential carriers are identified as swiftly as possible after exhibiting symptoms. (Guardian)
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Hmm...
Ali Velshi
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Doctors say they are 72 hours into Trump’s diagnosis. That would be Weds 11am. Trump announced he had Covid Fri 1am. On Fri evening he said he was being tested. Did he attend a rally in MN on Wed & then a fundraiser in NJ on Thur AFTER his doctor thought he had coronavirus?
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Ha ha! I'm sure there are more...
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Incidentally all of the people doing their best "how very dare you!" are precisely the same free speechers who think that nobody ought to take offence at anything anyone says.
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Incidentally all of the people doing their best "how very dare you!" are precisely the same free speechers who think that nobody ought to take offence at anything anyone says.
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wonderful from Clive LewisClive Lewis MP
@labourlewis
Quite right. Don’t let the haters drag us down to their level. Lets take out @realDonaldTrump
& his creed, politically, not personally. Get well soon, you’ve an election to lose
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yesterday's daily total was just under 7,000People tested positiveDue to a technical issue, which has now been resolved, there has been a delay in publishing a number of COVID-19 cases to the dashboard in England. This means the total reported over the coming days will include some additional cases from the period between 24 September and 1 October, increasing the number of cases reported.
Last updated on Saturday 3 October 2020 at 8:38pm
Daily
12,872
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A spokesperson for the UK’s Department of Health and Social Care has told the Guardian that the government currently does not know exactly how many new infections were recorded in the past 24 hours.
They said “some new data” would be published over the next couple of days, “but currently, we do not have a breakdown showing which cases are from today and which from a previous period”.
A technical issue resulting in conflated old and new test results was blamed, and the spokesperson said this would affect reported cases for a number of days.
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Is there chocolate, please?
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i had two chocolate digestives earlier - moreover i don't care!
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Mint aero. The very best kind of aero. It's quite a big one too.citizenJA wrote:Is there chocolate, please?
I still believe in a town called Hope
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We are drifting towards the possibility of the confirmation of Barrett by the Senate being very tight. If the two Republicans who say they won't vote to confirm - Collins and Murkowski - hold their ground, and if the vote gets pushed back beyond November 3rd (which seems quite possible at the moment) then it's currently very likely the Democrats will have one gain in the Senate - there is a 'Special' election in Arizona as well as the regular election to fill the seat from now till 'handover' in January. At the moment it's held by an appointed Republican but it looks like the democrat contender may well win.That would put things at 50/50, which is still enough for Barrett because Pence would have the casting vote. If Republican senators appear to be actually getting ill and staying ill for any time, look for a sudden backtrack on proxy voting.
I still believe in a town called Hope
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My favourite political science professor was fascinated by UK Parliamentadam wrote:We are drifting towards the possibility of the confirmation of Barrett by the Senate being very tight. If the two Republicans who say they won't vote to confirm - Collins and Murkowski - hold their ground, and if the vote gets pushed back beyond November 3rd (which seems quite possible at the moment) then it's currently very likely the Democrats will have one gain in the Senate - there is a 'Special' election in Arizona as well as the regular election to fill the seat from now till 'handover' in January. At the moment it's held by an appointed Republican but it looks like the democrat contender may well win.That would put things at 50/50, which is still enough for Barrett because Pence would have the casting vote. If Republican senators appear to be actually getting ill and staying ill for any time, look for a sudden backtrack on proxy voting.
She thought US government was a bit boring in contrast
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It would indeed be ironic if the virus quite a few Trump supporters deny even exists, was to stymie his plans for the Supreme Court.
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Goodnight, everyone.
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love,
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So Charles Moore won't be going for the Chair of the BBC job then?
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Good morning, everyone.
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Good morning all.
Looks like Trump is already better.......hmmmm.
Looks like Trump is already better.......hmmmm.
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Trump probably likes that just fine.Panic and confusion permeate White House following Trump's Covid diagnosis
Concerns mount over spread of the virus within the building, and whether it could disrupt the functioning of government
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There's a great deal of not being able to tell what might be true through the fog of, at best, misinformation and contradiction (as Robet Harris has said about the UK, we are all being led by oxymorons).
But it would be a very big lie indeed to say that he'd tested positive if he hasn't, and if he has then the big issue is how he is later this week rather than how he is now. That's the point where, assuming he is infected, we'll get an idea whether it's likely to pass over him or be a big deal.
But it would be a very big lie indeed to say that he'd tested positive if he hasn't, and if he has then the big issue is how he is later this week rather than how he is now. That's the point where, assuming he is infected, we'll get an idea whether it's likely to pass over him or be a big deal.
I still believe in a town called Hope
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Good morfternoon.
Fearless common sense? What if it's common sense to be fearful?
On the upside, my knowledge of Geography has been greatly enhanced thanks to Boris Johnson who took the trouble to explain, yesterday (in the context of "Brexit"), that Canada is a big country a long way away.
Fearless common sense? What if it's common sense to be fearful?
On the upside, my knowledge of Geography has been greatly enhanced thanks to Boris Johnson who took the trouble to explain, yesterday (in the context of "Brexit"), that Canada is a big country a long way away.
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Canada is ...
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@tinybgoat
Thank you!
Thank you!
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I'll never forgive the US Republican party
or the UK Tory party
or the UK Tory party
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edit: Oh wait, I do. It starts with a c and ends in UNT.
edit: Oh wait, I do. It starts with a c and ends in UNT.
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I mean, it's been ten minutes since I watched it and I am still seething.
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Same hereGetYou wrote:I mean, it's been ten minutes since I watched it and I am still seething.
I hadn't seen that before your having posted it
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You sound a bit like me after today's football
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Daily
22,961
artificially low new cases on previous daysAn issue was identified overnight on Friday 2 October in the automated process that transfers positive cases data to PHE. It has now been resolved.
The cases by publish date for 3 and 4 October include 15,841 additional cases with specimen dates between 25 September and 2 October — they are therefore artificially high for England and the UK.
whatever
numbers scary
government a shambles
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The real impact is on Test and Trace. None of these positive cases have been contact traced - they're now dealing with an epic backlog
And that's actually an impact for everyone. 15k people untraced (and by now it's probably too late)... not good for containing the outbreak
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Public Health England provided a breakdown of how many cases were not included in each day’s figures, which are as follows:
957 cases were not included on September 25, when the original figure given was 6,874
744 on September 26, when the original figure given was 6,042
757 on September 27, when the original figure given was 5,693
none on September 28, when the original figure given was 4,044
1,415 on September 29, when the original figure given was 7,143
3,049 on September 30, when the original figure given was 7,108
4,133 on October 1, when the original figure given was 6,914
4,786 on October 2, when the original figure given was 6,968https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... d321a6cf30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;So we can see that, at its worst, it meant that nearly 5,000 cases were missing from daily totals
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Both utterly awful institutions since the 1980s, certainly the 90s.citizenJA wrote:I'll never forgive the US Republican party
or the UK Tory party
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Not a fan of Freedland generally but yesterday's piece was more to the point than even he can have expected.
This government's incompetence is no accident. It was inevitable
This government's incompetence is no accident. It was inevitable
Yeah, and they're now proving that they can't even handle the data properly.Out would go the elitist experts – who, as Cummings’ first patron, Michael Gove, memorably remarked, the country had had enough of – and in would come a gang of anarchistic tech-wizards armed with supercomputers and reams of data.
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Liam Thorp
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The locating of thousands more misplaced test results have pushed Liverpool’s infection rate to over 400 per 100,000 - a staggering and really scary number for a city with some of the worst historic health issues that make fighting this virus so much harder
@LiamThorpECHO
The locating of thousands more misplaced test results have pushed Liverpool’s infection rate to over 400 per 100,000 - a staggering and really scary number for a city with some of the worst historic health issues that make fighting this virus so much harder
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Let's agree never to mention that game again.AnatolyKasparov wrote:You sound a bit like me after today's football
edit: a key word
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He's talking about the US.Brian Klaas
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The most charitable explanation for this is that they are utterly incompetent. The more plausible explanation is that they are utterly incompetent *and* they just don't care.
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Trump going for a drive by to wave at his supporters outside the hospital means Trump ordering his driver and secret service agents to sit inside a hermitially sealed very close environment with him whilst he's infected. Let's hope he's lying about being ill.
I still believe in a town called Hope
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Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
love,
cJA