Conservative Party conference: David Cameron accidentally says Tories 'resent' the poor
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 68106.html
Wednesday 1st October 2014.
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And you wouldn't want that! Burnt rubber has nothing on him.rebeccariots2 wrote:I notice I've been made a Whip.
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Wow.rebeccariots2 wrote:Conservative Party conference: David Cameron accidentally says Tories 'resent' the poor
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 68106.html
Doubtless this'll get same attention as "saved the world".
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JackPranker wrote:I like it when people I dislike make their own lives difficult (makes a change from making mine difficult at least). They must have another tactic than saying "Labour can't be trusted with the economy" in defence of their tax cut plans.
Who believes them anyway. They broke every promise and pledge they made in 2010. Dave promising us tax cuts this time around is rather like his, I will not meddle with the NHS the last time.
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I suppose we have to be thankful for small mercies in that Daves stopped comparing himself to Jesus or Dyna Rod.
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I'm listening to it again now. It's even worse than I remembered. Thank you Hindle A.HindleA wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
Essential listening peeps. Eddie Mair's choice of questions and quotes .... is beautifully exacting and exruciating .... builds as it goes on.
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HindleA wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
Ouch!
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Goodnight, everyone.
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Night PF.PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
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Nicky Morgan pretending economy wasn't growing in early 2010.
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Hang on, didn't Cameron lose in Parliament over the EU budget?
Morgan is making things up.
Morgan is making things up.
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Fantastic isn't it. Two great media laughs this afternoon. Cassette Boy's mock up of Cameron's speech and this Eddie Mair Skewers Tories interview. What a treat.RobertSnozers wrote:I'm enjoying this a lot! And there's another five minutes of this!HindleA wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
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@RR2 Yes indeed.
And what's awful news for Cameron is that both things ring true don't they? Mair's meme of a PM whose word can't be trusted is potentially deeply damaging for Dave.
And what's awful news for Cameron is that both things ring true don't they? Mair's meme of a PM whose word can't be trusted is potentially deeply damaging for Dave.
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Under investigation for financial irregularities the less said the better...And less is being said after the Independent's front page splash.Tubby Isaacs wrote:
I'm guessing The Big Society wasn't mentioned too.
They've swept so much under the carpet it's resembling the Alps.
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Night PFPorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
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Indeed, OhSo.
Mair was excellent.
Only thing I'd have asked as well is what will pay for these taxcuts when the deficit's cleared. Another fiscal hole coming?
Mair was excellent.
Only thing I'd have asked as well is what will pay for these taxcuts when the deficit's cleared. Another fiscal hole coming?
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Or the Bristol Children's Hospital in the early 1990;s. Professor Ian Kennedy's conclusion following the public inquiry was that " paediatric cardiac surgery services at Bristol were "simply not up to the task", because of shortages of key surgeons and nurses, and a lack of leadership, accountability, and teamwork."Tubby Isaacs wrote:Next time you come across someone talking about Mid Staffs, tell them about the 28 killed by Legionnaire's Disease in 1985.
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For PF
MIKE HANCOCK ON EUROPEAN JOLLY (WHERE HE’S STILL A LIBERAL PARTY VICE CHAIR)
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/10/m ... ice-chair/
Sorry about the cut and pasted capitals.
MIKE HANCOCK ON EUROPEAN JOLLY (WHERE HE’S STILL A LIBERAL PARTY VICE CHAIR)
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/10/m ... ice-chair/
Sorry about the cut and pasted capitals.
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Remember how Rachel Reeves wrote to UKSA over Cameron's "debts being paid down" lie in their PPB ?
http://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/r ... y-2013.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He has repeated the same bloody lie in tonight's !
I sincerely hope somebody from Labour has the nous to complain & remind Dilnot that he has already reprimanded Cameron on this issue before.
http://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/r ... y-2013.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He has repeated the same bloody lie in tonight's !
I sincerely hope somebody from Labour has the nous to complain & remind Dilnot that he has already reprimanded Cameron on this issue before.
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So is the Marriage Tax Break still happening?
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Can we tweet Andrew Marr that link.
With something pithy like.
"This is how you are supposed to ask questions of ministers"
With something pithy like.
"This is how you are supposed to ask questions of ministers"
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So has anyone asked the Tories what human rights they don't want the British people to have?
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Abu Qatada, blah, blah.Spacedone wrote:So has anyone asked the Tories what human rights they don't want the British people to have?
Never mind he's been found not guilty.
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This from a decent article in the FT
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585d674-4953 ... z3Eux2LC3T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;in the bid both to draw a clear dividing line with Labour and reassure the wavering right, they have staked out a fiscal position that is neither sober nor realistic
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So the right not to be sent to a country that practices torture/has the death penalty?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Abu Qatada, blah, blah.Spacedone wrote:So has anyone asked the Tories what human rights they don't want the British people to have?
Never mind he's been found not guilty.
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They also reckon the unfunded tax cuts raises fundamental economic questions about the Conservative case, quite.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This from a decent article in the FThttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585d674-4953 ... z3Eux2LC3T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;in the bid both to draw a clear dividing line with Labour and reassure the wavering right, they have staked out a fiscal position that is neither sober nor realistic
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Something tells me this isn't the newspaper reaction the Tories wanted...PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This from a decent article in the FThttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585d674-4953 ... z3Eux2LC3T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;in the bid both to draw a clear dividing line with Labour and reassure the wavering right, they have staked out a fiscal position that is neither sober nor realistic
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"Why are you so useless as chief whip?"
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We didn't think you'd notice':
http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/bra ... OSetU.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I mean to say; who would notice a Jumbo coming across the rooftops at 3,000 ft at gone 11pm ? Some people are so picky...
http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/bra ... OSetU.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I mean to say; who would notice a Jumbo coming across the rooftops at 3,000 ft at gone 11pm ? Some people are so picky...
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The FT editorials have seemed to me in the past far more Tory-friendly than the main columnists (apart from Chris Giles, though he's pressed Osborne usefully on some accounting tricks).Spacedone wrote:Something tells me this isn't the newspaper reaction the Tories wanted...PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This from a decent article in the FThttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585d674-4953 ... z3Eux2LC3T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;in the bid both to draw a clear dividing line with Labour and reassure the wavering right, they have staked out a fiscal position that is neither sober nor realistic
Is this an editorial?
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Yes it isTubby Isaacs wrote:The FT editorials have seemed to me in the past far more Tory-friendly than the main columnists (apart from Chris Giles, though he's pressed Osborne usefully on some accounting tricks).Spacedone wrote:Something tells me this isn't the newspaper reaction the Tories wanted...PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This from a decent article in the FT http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2585d674-4953 ... z3Eux2LC3T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is this an editorial?
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I'm sure most of you have seen it, but young "Havisham" Hodges' latest piece may be his funniest yet. Fair enough, he's taken the Telegraph Shilling so has to dance to their tune, but I think he truly has lost all touch with reality now; he must realise he will be virtually unemployable after next May, nobody takes him seriously any more (comments BTL are, as wotsisface would say, "delicious and sublime").
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Still, it remains to be seen how the big circulation Tory papers play it.
If it is rapturous joy over "FREE MONEY" - as was the case after the Budget this year - then Tory HQ will feel the gambit has worked. For now.....
If it is rapturous joy over "FREE MONEY" - as was the case after the Budget this year - then Tory HQ will feel the gambit has worked. For now.....
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I agree it will be interesting to see their take. But there's surely no guarantee that any paper except the Guardian will support Dave.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Still, it remains to be seen how the big circulation Tory papers play it.
If it is rapturous joy over "FREE MONEY" - as was the case after the Budget this year - then Tory HQ will feel the gambit has worked. For now.....
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I love Martin Rowson, but after listening to that interview, I love Eddie Mair too.rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm listening to it again now. It's even worse than I remembered. Thank you Hindle A.HindleA wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
Essential listening peeps. Eddie Mair's choice of questions and quotes .... is beautifully exacting and exruciating .... builds as it goes on.
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BTW what was all that crap at the beginning of the "speech" about restricting travel to the Middle East?
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I glanced upon it, that was enough, undoubtedly the other delusional bell-end, Young, will be along tomorrow.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:I'm sure most of you have seen it, but young "Havisham" Hodges' latest piece may be his funniest yet. Fair enough, he's taken the Telegraph Shilling so has to dance to their tune, but I think he truly has lost all touch with reality now; he must realise he will be virtually unemployable after next May, nobody takes him seriously any more (comments BTL are, as wotsisface would say, "delicious and sublime").
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... meron-now/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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They will love it and praise it as the most statesman like speech ever. They will all say how much Dave said (he said nothing) and compare it with how little Miliband said (he provided substance). This was always the narrative, even praising Ed last year has been so they could say this year wasn't as good.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Still, it remains to be seen how the big circulation Tory papers play it.
If it is rapturous joy over "FREE MONEY" - as was the case after the Budget this year - then Tory HQ will feel the gambit has worked. For now.....
However it gives Labour a shed load of ammunition to throw at Dave.
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I've just had an email from Labour, and I noticed something about the donation request, compared to the Tory emails. See if you can spot it:
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I love Eddie for: "Boris Johnson, you're a nasty piece of work, aren't you?".ohsocynical wrote:I love Martin Rowson, but after listening to that interview, I love Eddie Mair too.rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm listening to it again now. It's even worse than I remembered. Thank you Hindle A.HindleA wrote: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Essential listening peeps. Eddie Mair's choice of questions and quotes .... is beautifully exacting and exruciating .... builds as it goes on.
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Does pm appear as a podcast? I'd like to hear that at some point.rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
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What? You've got to be kidding us - hasn't he?Otto English @Otto_English 28m28 minutes ago
"Offensive" Banksy scrubbed off Clacton wall by council, immediately halving the value of the town. #ukip #carswell
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Carry on down the thread a bit from my first post and HindleA posts a link to the audio. It's priceless.StephenDolan wrote:Does pm appear as a podcast? I'd like to hear that at some point.rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
Working on the wild side.
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HindleA's post is here: http://flythenest.org/viewtopic.php?p=6720#p6720" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;rebeccariots2 wrote:Carry on down the thread a bit from my first post and HindleA posts a link to the audio. It's priceless.StephenDolan wrote:Does pm appear as a podcast? I'd like to hear that at some point.rebeccariots2 wrote:Eddie Mair picking the Tories spending 'plans' to shreds on PM now.
Thank you Eddie!!!!!
He's filletting her (not sure who it is .... but she is sinking fast, can hear the glug, glug, glug).
Ah it's the Education Secretary. God she is appalling - like a parrot on Mogadon - repeating trance like their rehearsed mantras.
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Jim Pickard @PickardJE 47m47 minutes ago
Sounds like big cuts coming tomorrow to subsidies for large-scale solar farms...
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It's true.rebeccariots2 wrote:What? You've got to be kidding us - hasn't he?Otto English @Otto_English 28m28 minutes ago
"Offensive" Banksy scrubbed off Clacton wall by council, immediately halving the value of the town. #ukip #carswell
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-29446232" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I find it astonishing that a) somebody would complain it was racist & b) that the council would have painted over it within 24 hours !
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I can't help feeling it was also a two fingers up 'fuck you!' to Ian Katz and the Newsnight crew for getting in the execrable Evan Davies when there's a much better journalist and interviewer (and thinker) available.ohsocynical wrote:I love Martin Rowson, but after listening to that interview, I love Eddie Mair too.rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm listening to it again now. It's even worse than I remembered. Thank you Hindle A.HindleA wrote: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Essential listening peeps. Eddie Mair's choice of questions and quotes .... is beautifully exacting and exruciating .... builds as it goes on.
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Personally don't think there is much use in large scale solar farms in the UK. I think homes should have them fitted with a decent battery system for storage but farms I am not sure will ever be that efficient. Geo-thermal, Hydro and Tidal are the way to go in the UK imo. we have the annual equivalent of 9 nuclear power stations in geo-thermal alone and it would bring clean renewable jobs to the north and South West. The govt even signed a knowledge sharing deal with the iceland govt for development then cut funding and dropped development. It is completely unfathomable that a relatively mature/ cheap/ renewable resource like that isn't being utilised. ITs not like tidal it doesnt have the cost implications of barrages/dams and is environmentally friendly.rebeccariots2 wrote:Jim Pickard @PickardJE 47m47 minutes ago
Sounds like big cuts coming tomorrow to subsidies for large-scale solar farms...
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Paul Mason reckons today's speech makes things tricky for Labour because it covered Labours issues.
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Moazzam Begg has no case to answer.
Moazzam Begg has no case to answer.