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Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Woke to the BBC praising our wonderful fatuous hamfaced bullingdon pillock's latest announcement on his latest pet project
"Access to the internet shouldn’t be a luxury; it should be a right – absolutely fundamental to life in 21st-century Britain"
My initial thoughts were, well it might be very noble but neither should access to food, decent healthcare or battling to get social security without jumping through metaphorical hoops be a luxury. He does get on my wick.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... home-in-uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Access to the internet shouldn’t be a luxury; it should be a right – absolutely fundamental to life in 21st-century Britain"
My initial thoughts were, well it might be very noble but neither should access to food, decent healthcare or battling to get social security without jumping through metaphorical hoops be a luxury. He does get on my wick.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... home-in-uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Further to the filibustering yesterday
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Morning.
Welcome to TR'sGhost, interesting posts last night.
Welcome to TR'sGhost, interesting posts last night.
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Seconded, hello TRG!yahyah wrote:Morning.
Welcome to TR'sGhost, interesting posts last night.
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Don't forget tonight's Bonfire and Fireworks display (with possible Aurora Borealis) is scheduled for 9pm up on the top field, so if you're coming on horseback please arrive early and use the stables or turn out into the indoor-school - stallions must be stabled. If you're bringing an effigy or guy to go on the bonfire - no plastics - could you make sure it's here before 8.30pm. Ta!
Don't forget tonight's Bonfire and Fireworks display (with possible Aurora Borealis) is scheduled for 9pm up on the top field, so if you're coming on horseback please arrive early and use the stables or turn out into the indoor-school - stallions must be stabled. If you're bringing an effigy or guy to go on the bonfire - no plastics - could you make sure it's here before 8.30pm. Ta!
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Whew. Wet and very windy here.
A day in the kitchen baking goodies methinks....
A day in the kitchen baking goodies methinks....
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Morning all, and welcome to TR'sGhost.
All the kerfuffle over the tax credits cuts has obscured (for some) the mooted cut/removal of the WRAG component of ESA.
A loss of £1,560 PA to those affected.
Those who qualify for NI Conts-based WRAG are time-limited to 12 months as it is; I am now wondering if Osborne will sneak in a 6-month limit.
I ponder this because his rationale for removing the "perverse incentive" is to encourage ill people to go to work - he said the cut would bring them into the same sort of "support" as JSA claimants.
The abolition of the 6-month rule on re-claims for ESA mean that anyone whose entitlement runs out and/or fails a WCA can only claim ESA again within 6 months if they submit to another WCA (with no benefit paid while that's pending) or if they can satisfy DWP that they have a siginficant worsening of their condition and/or a new condition - both of which will.....need to be assessed by another WCA!
I am now thinking that Osborne may well backtrack/mitigate the tax credit cuts - but unless there is some vociferous opposition, the abolition of the WRAG component will go ahead; and it would not surprise me if he tucks more little nasties in there.
I also think we can expect many more people to be allocated to the WRAG for this reason; Osborne can save quite a lot of money here if he does this right (well, it's not right, but you know what I mean) and IDS will get more people disallowed because they're incapable of work and/or fulfilling the conditions for JSA or Universal Credit.
The loss in income for our sick will be as bad as the loss for others via tax credit cuts. I'd like to hear a bit more noise from Labour on this. Please.
All the kerfuffle over the tax credits cuts has obscured (for some) the mooted cut/removal of the WRAG component of ESA.
A loss of £1,560 PA to those affected.
Those who qualify for NI Conts-based WRAG are time-limited to 12 months as it is; I am now wondering if Osborne will sneak in a 6-month limit.
I ponder this because his rationale for removing the "perverse incentive" is to encourage ill people to go to work - he said the cut would bring them into the same sort of "support" as JSA claimants.
The abolition of the 6-month rule on re-claims for ESA mean that anyone whose entitlement runs out and/or fails a WCA can only claim ESA again within 6 months if they submit to another WCA (with no benefit paid while that's pending) or if they can satisfy DWP that they have a siginficant worsening of their condition and/or a new condition - both of which will.....need to be assessed by another WCA!
I am now thinking that Osborne may well backtrack/mitigate the tax credit cuts - but unless there is some vociferous opposition, the abolition of the WRAG component will go ahead; and it would not surprise me if he tucks more little nasties in there.
I also think we can expect many more people to be allocated to the WRAG for this reason; Osborne can save quite a lot of money here if he does this right (well, it's not right, but you know what I mean) and IDS will get more people disallowed because they're incapable of work and/or fulfilling the conditions for JSA or Universal Credit.
The loss in income for our sick will be as bad as the loss for others via tax credit cuts. I'd like to hear a bit more noise from Labour on this. Please.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Galloway: I'm In Touch With Corbyn's Team All The Time
http://www.lbc.co.uk/galloway-im-in-tou ... ime-119332" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
I would take anything he claims with scepticism, tbh.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
ephemerid wrote:Morning all, and welcome to TR'sGhost.
All the kerfuffle over the tax credits cuts has obscured (for some) the mooted cut/removal of the WRAG component of ESA.
A loss of £1,560 PA to those affected.
Those who qualify for NI Conts-based WRAG are time-limited to 12 months as it is; I am now wondering if Osborne will sneak in a 6-month limit.
I ponder this because his rationale for removing the "perverse incentive" is to encourage ill people to go to work - he said the cut would bring them into the same sort of "support" as JSA claimants.
The abolition of the 6-month rule on re-claims for ESA mean that anyone whose entitlement runs out and/or fails a WCA can only claim ESA again within 6 months if they submit to another WCA (with no benefit paid while that's pending) or if they can satisfy DWP that they have a siginficant worsening of their condition and/or a new condition - both of which will.....need to be assessed by another WCA!
I am now thinking that Osborne may well backtrack/mitigate the tax credit cuts - but unless there is some vociferous opposition, the abolition of the WRAG component will go ahead; and it would not surprise me if he tucks more little nasties in there.
I also think we can expect many more people to be allocated to the WRAG for this reason; Osborne can save quite a lot of money here if he does this right (well, it's not right, but you know what I mean) and IDS will get more people disallowed because they're incapable of work and/or fulfilling the conditions for JSA or Universal Credit.
The loss in income for our sick will be as bad as the loss for others via tax credit cuts. I'd like to hear a bit more noise from Labour on this. Please.
Osborne and IDS will succeed for one main reason - a sad one that we try to ignore but is always the elephant in the room
There is a goodly proportion of the British people that do not care about others in any constructive sort of way
If they are homeowners they do not care that others cannot afford them or even countenance that their house price will not rise. If they are working they do not care that others don't and immediately think they are lazy. If they are able-bodied thy do not care that others aren't and begrudge their taxes going for them. They do belief that foreigners are the root of all problems (especially those with funny names) and that our soldiers are all heroes when they attack and kill foreigners
The values have changed and the consequence will be that this will be exploited by the rich.
Osborne must be amazed and can't believe his luck that we have become such a supine and contemptuous bunch of people. As long as he keeps house prices high and only attacks the vulnerable and weak then he will be fine
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Iain Duncan Smith 'threatens to quit' if George Osborne raids universal credit.
Who would replace Smiffy ? I bet Priti is watching with glee
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 25166.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who would replace Smiffy ? I bet Priti is watching with glee
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 25166.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Something doesn't ring true with me about this spat with Ozzy & IDS. Misinformation, manufactured to make Gideon look hard maybe, or an attempt to build up IDS as a nice guy after all (or to give give him a way out without Cam sacking him)
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Yes! Yes! Yes!howsillyofme1 wrote:ephemerid wrote:Morning all, and welcome to TR'sGhost.
All the kerfuffle over the tax credits cuts has obscured (for some) the mooted cut/removal of the WRAG component of ESA.
A loss of £1,560 PA to those affected.
Those who qualify for NI Conts-based WRAG are time-limited to 12 months as it is; I am now wondering if Osborne will sneak in a 6-month limit.
I ponder this because his rationale for removing the "perverse incentive" is to encourage ill people to go to work - he said the cut would bring them into the same sort of "support" as JSA claimants.
The abolition of the 6-month rule on re-claims for ESA mean that anyone whose entitlement runs out and/or fails a WCA can only claim ESA again within 6 months if they submit to another WCA (with no benefit paid while that's pending) or if they can satisfy DWP that they have a siginficant worsening of their condition and/or a new condition - both of which will.....need to be assessed by another WCA!
I am now thinking that Osborne may well backtrack/mitigate the tax credit cuts - but unless there is some vociferous opposition, the abolition of the WRAG component will go ahead; and it would not surprise me if he tucks more little nasties in there.
I also think we can expect many more people to be allocated to the WRAG for this reason; Osborne can save quite a lot of money here if he does this right (well, it's not right, but you know what I mean) and IDS will get more people disallowed because they're incapable of work and/or fulfilling the conditions for JSA or Universal Credit.
The loss in income for our sick will be as bad as the loss for others via tax credit cuts. I'd like to hear a bit more noise from Labour on this. Please.
Osborne and IDS will succeed for one main reason - a sad one that we try to ignore but is always the elephant in the room
There is a goodly proportion of the British people that do not care about others in any constructive sort of way
If they are homeowners they do not care that others cannot afford them or even countenance that their house price will not rise. If they are working they do not care that others don't and immediately think they are lazy. If they are able-bodied thy do not care that others aren't and begrudge their taxes going for them. They do belief that foreigners are the root of all problems (especially those with funny names) and that our soldiers are all heroes when they attack and kill foreigners
The values have changed and the consequence will be that this will be exploited by the rich.
Osborne must be amazed and can't believe his luck that we have become such a supine and contemptuous bunch of people. As long as he keeps house prices high and only attacks the vulnerable and weak then he will be fine
I've been banging on about this for quite a while. Canadian citizens got sick of their venous, lying, thieving, right wing and voted them out.
We didn't....
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Look a squirrel....TobyLatimer wrote:Iain Duncan Smith 'threatens to quit' if George Osborne raids universal credit.
Who would replace Smiffy ? I bet Priti is watching with glee
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 25166.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Watching the right hand whilst the left hand screws us - again.
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The British care in a passive way - give a bit of money to Comic Relief and job done...buy a Big Issue occasionally and job done.ohsocynical wrote:Yes! Yes! Yes!howsillyofme1 wrote:ephemerid wrote:Morning all, and welcome to TR'sGhost.
All the kerfuffle over the tax credits cuts has obscured (for some) the mooted cut/removal of the WRAG component of ESA.
A loss of £1,560 PA to those affected.
Those who qualify for NI Conts-based WRAG are time-limited to 12 months as it is; I am now wondering if Osborne will sneak in a 6-month limit.
I ponder this because his rationale for removing the "perverse incentive" is to encourage ill people to go to work - he said the cut would bring them into the same sort of "support" as JSA claimants.
The abolition of the 6-month rule on re-claims for ESA mean that anyone whose entitlement runs out and/or fails a WCA can only claim ESA again within 6 months if they submit to another WCA (with no benefit paid while that's pending) or if they can satisfy DWP that they have a siginficant worsening of their condition and/or a new condition - both of which will.....need to be assessed by another WCA!
I am now thinking that Osborne may well backtrack/mitigate the tax credit cuts - but unless there is some vociferous opposition, the abolition of the WRAG component will go ahead; and it would not surprise me if he tucks more little nasties in there.
I also think we can expect many more people to be allocated to the WRAG for this reason; Osborne can save quite a lot of money here if he does this right (well, it's not right, but you know what I mean) and IDS will get more people disallowed because they're incapable of work and/or fulfilling the conditions for JSA or Universal Credit.
The loss in income for our sick will be as bad as the loss for others via tax credit cuts. I'd like to hear a bit more noise from Labour on this. Please.
Osborne and IDS will succeed for one main reason - a sad one that we try to ignore but is always the elephant in the room
There is a goodly proportion of the British people that do not care about others in any constructive sort of way
If they are homeowners they do not care that others cannot afford them or even countenance that their house price will not rise. If they are working they do not care that others don't and immediately think they are lazy. If they are able-bodied thy do not care that others aren't and begrudge their taxes going for them. They do belief that foreigners are the root of all problems (especially those with funny names) and that our soldiers are all heroes when they attack and kill foreigners
The values have changed and the consequence will be that this will be exploited by the rich.
Osborne must be amazed and can't believe his luck that we have become such a supine and contemptuous bunch of people. As long as he keeps house prices high and only attacks the vulnerable and weak then he will be fine
I've been banging on about this for quite a while. Canadian citizens got sick of their venous, lying, thieving, right wing and voted them out.
We didn't....
It is the success of Thatcher...and followed on by certain members in Labour, ably supported by the Establishment that it has come to this
There is no acceptance of any organised dissent....despite everybody knowing the police have lied in the past about behaviour of demonstrators. What we like to do is whinge and moan, and if the story is playing to a media narrative then it will be supported (that Bailey woman for example)
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
To be fair,Labour have clearly repeatedly publicly stated their opposition to the ESA (WRAG) change and a "new" position on the conversion of benefit to an interest bearing loan with charges for homeowners;now fully against. Neutral question-what more can they do?It is a fight on many fronts with no simple discrete groups of people effected by the array of policies.
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I really don't know what you're all moaning about. After all -
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again.Cameron vows to make fast broadband available to every home in UK (Guardian)
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So ... A slice of egg and bacon quiche? Or a lemon curd tart? .
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What he originally "pledged" for this year is now "pledged" for 2020. JAM TOMORROW!PorFavor wrote:I really don't know what you're all moaning about. After all -
again.Cameron vows to make fast broadband available to every home in UK (Guardian)
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Stiff Records -->Wreckless Eric --> "what was that track ..." -->
= semaphore signals
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At the risk of triggering the politics of envy. I had some jam this morning. Apricot. On toast.
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From last year;
Mr Cameron said ; "The internet will allow everyday objects like fridges to talk to each other"
I don't really want my fridge going round talking to other fridges thanks. The tart.
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Mr Cameron said ; "The internet will allow everyday objects like fridges to talk to each other"
I don't really want my fridge going round talking to other fridges thanks. The tart.
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Actually, you don't see that much of apricots these days do you? Seem to have been largely replaced by peaches and nectarines in our shopping baskets......tinyclanger2 wrote:At the risk of triggering the politics of envy. I had some jam this morning. Apricot. On toast.
What other food items from your younger days have gone out of fashion??
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Stiff Records -->Wreckless Eric --> "what was that track ..." -->
= semaphore signals
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Yup, it was the flip side of "(I'd Go The) Whole Wide World" (for those that remember flip sides)
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I hate to think what my fridge would say if it got the chance.
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Blue Nun.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Actually, you don't see that much of apricots these days do you? Seem to have been largely replaced by peaches and nectarines in our shopping baskets......tinyclanger2 wrote:At the risk of triggering the politics of envy. I had some jam this morning. Apricot. On toast.
What other food items from your younger days have gone out of fashion??
If that counts as a food.
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Telfer's steak and kidney puddings (not as good as home made but very edible).
Macrae's (sp?) kipper fillets.
Bliss bars.
Polar bear ice cream\lollies.
And, more generally (still gettable but harder to source), bacon with rind on and meat with bones left in (eg loin of pork like a row of pork chops).
Damsons.
I'm sure there's more . . .
Macrae's (sp?) kipper fillets.
Bliss bars.
Polar bear ice cream\lollies.
And, more generally (still gettable but harder to source), bacon with rind on and meat with bones left in (eg loin of pork like a row of pork chops).
Damsons.
I'm sure there's more . . .
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Chicken with giblets (vital for gravy, I feel) . . . .
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Damson trees are still quite common in these parts. The fruits make good jam.
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Me grandma was a big fan of giblet gravy. My first impression of her no-nonsense interaction with a chicken lives long in my memory.
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Trio bars.
Greetings to TR'sGhost.
On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
Edited to add, having looked at the poster's history, possibly genuine supporter. Cripes!
Greetings to TR'sGhost.
On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
Edited to add, having looked at the poster's history, possibly genuine supporter. Cripes!
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Lemon curd tart, please! I've got clotted cream to go with itohsocynical wrote:So ... A slice of egg and bacon quiche? Or a lemon curd tart? .
This time, I'm gonna be stronger I'm not giving in...
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Oh god.Willow904 wrote:Trio bars.
Greetings to TR'sGhost.
On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
I'm afraid this is why I'm easily focused on the likes of Trio Bars and Blue Nun.
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The response seemed such an over the top reaction to my, I thought, reasonable suggestion that Labour needs to be a broad church to win elections, that it just made me laugh, really. If social democrats are now the enemy of real Labour, as well as red Tories, moderates and anyone who's been to Oxbridge, there's not going to be much left soon.tinyclanger2 wrote:Oh god.Willow904 wrote:Trio bars.
Greetings to TR'sGhost.
On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
I'm afraid this is why I'm easily focused on the likes of Trio Bars and Blue Nun.
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We had so little choice after the war, I can't think of a thing.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Actually, you don't see that much of apricots these days do you? Seem to have been largely replaced by peaches and nectarines in our shopping baskets......tinyclanger2 wrote:At the risk of triggering the politics of envy. I had some jam this morning. Apricot. On toast.
What other food items from your younger days have gone out of fashion??
Except:
Sweet cigarettes. Coconut tobacco...
On the other hand there are a lot of things we still get but are nothing like the originals....
Any chocolate or sweets made by Rowntrees, Mackintoshes, Cadbury's, Nestles bear no resemblance to how they once tasted.
For a few weeks in the summer we'd get cucumbers that had been grown outside in England...Delicious.
At Christmas there would be a Jaffa orange each for me and my sister, which we'd share with mum and dad. Grown in Israel, they were huge, sweet, juicy, and had baby oranges inside them...The original twoofers.
All our food was fresh, mostly from nearby farms, potatoes still had wet earth on them, and there'd be a fair scattering of catapillars on the greens, which made it pretty much organic too.
Even chicken was seasonal.
No fridges, freezers, plastic wrapping, vacuum packed or zapped with radiation in those days.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Alerted to it via diversion of press release on BCap today.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
There *are* a few genuine Corbynistas like that, I'm afraid.Willow904 wrote:Trio bars.
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On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
Edited to add, having looked at the poster's history, possibly genuine supporter. Cripes!
I am (just) old enough to recall being told to "p*** off to the SDP" back in the 1980s.
Found out a few years ago that the person who said that is now miles to the right of my good self politically
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Well most people don't go to Oxbridge contrary to how it may look if you see who is on tv and in positions of power....certain of the right of Labour no longer have any place in the party...but that is not because they should not be there because of their politics it is just their behaviour would preclude it.Willow904 wrote:The response seemed such an over the top reaction to my, I thought, reasonable suggestion that Labour needs to be a broad church to win elections, that it just made me laugh, really. If social democrats are now the enemy of real Labour, as well as red Tories, moderates and anyone who's been to Oxbridge, there's not going to be much left soon.tinyclanger2 wrote:Oh god.Willow904 wrote:Trio bars.
Greetings to TR'sGhost.
On the politics front, I just got told on CIF that Labour didn't want SDP types like me and I should go join the Tories/Liberals instead. Genuine Corbyn supporter or troll? Hmm....let me think....
I'm afraid this is why I'm easily focused on the likes of Trio Bars and Blue Nun.
Of course Labour should be a broad church and I see no indication from Corbyn that he wants to 'purge' the right - in the same way that the left was most efficiently purged under Blair
Labour has to be a broad church and people such as Cooper and many others have their place within it - and can really still add immense value
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Vesta Chow Mein. Not saying it was good but it was in common use. I liked the crispy noodles, mind. At this time of year I miss buying bags of hot chestnuts.
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My mother was very squeamish. There wasn't a person in the country more glad to see bald, pink, chickens sans head, legs and insides appear in the shops.tinyclanger2 wrote:Me grandma was a big fan of giblet gravy. My first impression of her no-nonsense interaction with a chicken lives long in my memory.
Many a Christmas Sis and I watched gran get busy with our wood chopper on the head and legs, and pulling the insides of our once a year Christmas chicken. Said chicken had been hung from its feet in the colehole for days dripping the last of its blood onto a bit of newspaper. The longer it hung the whiter the meat. And no central heating so no risk of the meat turning although mum spent a lot of time sniffing it to make sure.
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Oh Lord. I'd forgotten that....I liked it. And their Beef Risotto. It's about as near as I ever got to foriegn food.LadyCentauria wrote:Vesta Chow Mein. Not saying it was good but it was in common use. I liked the crispy noodles, mind. At this time of year I miss buying bags of hot chestnuts.
I think you can still get the Chow Mein from some Tesco stores, and from Amazon although it's very expensive if you buy it through them.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Oh - and why do they take the fat off beef and replace it with . . . . . a piece of fat?
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An Open Letter to the Disappointed Blairites (Mark 2)
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
FWIW
125,877 on UC,38,109 "in employment"
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I always chuck it...You never know where it's been....Or come from.PorFavor wrote:Oh - and why do they take the fat off beef and replace it with . . . . . a piece of fat?
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I don't buy meat presented like that. The fat's probably been swept up off the floor (to put the best gloss on the possibilities).ohsocynical wrote:I always chuck it...You never know where it's been....Or come from.PorFavor wrote:Oh - and why do they take the fat off beef and replace it with . . . . . a piece of fat?
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You are making me hungry.
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Re: Saturday 7th & Sunday 8th November 2015
Plus their Beef Curry, with raisins - something true afficionados always regarded with horrorohsocynical wrote:Oh Lord. I'd forgotten that....I liked it. And their Beef Risotto. It's about as near as I ever got to foriegn food.LadyCentauria wrote:Vesta Chow Mein. Not saying it was good but it was in common use. I liked the crispy noodles, mind. At this time of year I miss buying bags of hot chestnuts.
I think you can still get the Chow Mein from some Tesco stores, and from Amazon although it's very expensive if you buy it through them.
I think all their stuff is still fairly easily available, for those who want a nostalgia trip.
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