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Morning all.
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Nothing but vote winners from Labour

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Come on Musk, sue them for discriminating against you !

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Good morning.

This is a step in the right direction. Lansley's 'reforms' just confused the hell out of everyone. Proper accountability.

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Labour doing a good thing

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Well yes, that is indeed good to see.
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There's a nice MSNBC clip on Trump going on and on about the previous US Canadian trade Agreement ...

he signed it :-)

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Frog222 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:31 pm There's a nice MSNBC clip on Trump going on and on about the previous US Canadian trade Agreement ...

he signed it :-)

Never happened, and any claim otherwise is FAKE NEWS!
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Lol. Lmao even

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AnatolyKasparov wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 6:40 pm
Frog222 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:31 pm There's a nice MSNBC clip on Trump going on and on about the previous US Canadian trade Agreement ...
he signed it :-)
Never happened, and any claim otherwise is FAKE NEWS!
Couldn't resist, it gave me a much-needed laugh --




Yet more Fake News, it's an AI version of Jon Stewart posted by the libtards, AntiFa, whoevs ...:-)
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Even when Hodges is on your side it's always worth checking to see if he's talking bollocks or not.



From the FT.

https://www.ft.com/content/1890d104-139 ... 99aed448e6
The original draft’s highly onerous terms — which President Donald Trump presented as a means of Ukraine repaying the US for military and financial aid since Russia’s 2022 full-scale invasion — provoked outrage in Kyiv and other European capitals.

The final version of the agreement, dated February 24 and seen by the FT, would establish a fund into which Ukraine would contribute 50 per cent of proceeds from the “future monetisation” of state-owned mineral resources, including oil and gas, and associated logistics. The fund would invest in projects in Ukraine.

The Trump administration’s initial sweeping proposal called for a reconstruction investment fund in which the US “maintains 100 per cent financial interest”. Ukraine would contribute 50 per cent of the fund’s revenues from mineral resource extraction, including oil and gas and associated infrastructure, up to a maximum of $500bn.

Those terms, described as unacceptable by Ukrainian officials, have been removed from the final draft.

The mandate for the fund to invest in Ukraine is a further change Kyiv had sought. The document states the US will back Ukraine’s economic development into the future.
So the Ukrainians are agreeing to a deal which will set up a fund to use future mineral profits to invest in Ukraine, which is a far cry from the shameless embezzlement Trump was trying to blackmail them into signing.
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As I think I mentioned I got some venison and haggis sausages from a farmers market in Scotland last weekend.

They weren't cheap.

I cooked some tonight for my tea, got all excited, and they were shit.

I was utterly crestfallen. They barely tasted of anything and somehow contrived to be both dry and greasy at the same time.

:(

I could just about handle Scotland fucking up the rugby but substandard sausages are taking the piss.
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Sky'sGoneOut wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:23 pm
Those terms, described as unacceptable by Ukrainian officials, have been removed from the final draft.

The mandate for the fund to invest in Ukraine is a further change Kyiv had sought. The document states the US will back Ukraine’s economic development into the future.
So the Ukrainians are agreeing to a deal which will set up a fund to use future mineral profits to invest in Ukraine, which is a far cry from the shameless embezzlement Trump was trying to blackmail them into signing.
I had a look at the criticism of the original behind the Telegraph paywall --

it was considerably crueller than even Versailles 1919 inflicted on the losing Germans !

A bit of better news to 'retire' with for today :-)
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Plus this --
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So what do we make of Starmer slashing funds to the worlds poorest in order to bolster our armed forces to appease Trump and wave a slightly less tiny fist at Putin?

We have billions in seized Russian assets untouched (besides the interest). Money looted by Putin's cronies and laundered in London. Yet apparently Labour have no choice but to cut aid to funds which mainly benefit children, young girls in particular, in some of the poorest countries in the world.

Remember Clare Short? Here's what she thinks.
Clare Short, who served as international development secretary under Tony Blair, criticised the move and said “it doesn’t understand that good development work is crucial to a sustainable future”.

“It splashes money on defence spending and Ukraine and is not focused on bringing peace to Ukraine – and disgracefully, it has still not abolished the two-child benefit cap.

“I am afraid that, in many respects, this is simply not a Labour government.”

Short also warned of the prospect of Labour’s core supporters abandoning the party and that the “traditional Labour Party” faces destruction.

“The coalition of voters that have supported Labour since its foundation, low-income people, the morally concerned middle class, internationalists and supporters of the United Nations and international law, will splinter and the traditional Labour Party will be destroyed.”
https://labourlist.org/2025/02/clare-sh ... dget-cuts/
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From the Guardian.
Downing Street insiders believe that cutting the aid budget could be popular with the type of voters inclined to back Reform UK that Labour needs to retain.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-spending

For fucks sake. Does the Trade Descriptions Act still apply? And if so could someone sue this current Labour party for false advertising?

The only people they seem to care about are cunts. Pig ignorant cunts. The kind of people most Labour members and voters would happily punch in the face given half the chance if they opened their racist yap around them. And yet we're now supposed to bow down before them, please them, while we get kicked in the fucking balls (other generative organs are available). It's sickening to see a party of the Left (allegedly) with a freakishly huge majority be so embarrassingly spineless. So bereft of anything other than its wish to survive. Cravenly hoping to placate the very kind of people and ideas it was originally established to oppose and its own supporters despise.
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That frankly says more about "Downing Street insiders" than anything else. So lets give you a reality check (even though you won't like it)

Have you seen any actual polling? Well I don't want to shock you, but foreign aid is just about THE most unpopular thing there is - literally *everybody* hates it except the most left wing 10-15% of voters. They are convinced it is a sink of waste and corruption, and of course there *is* some of that.

In this context, its people like us who are actually the "hero voters" - out of step with literally everybody else.
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