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Morning all.
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So, Trump has decided to attack Venezuela. I assume the UK government will be condemning this any minute?

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Statement from the Venezuelan government
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Jeez, we just have the dumbest PM

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refitman wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 12:39 pm Jeez, we just have the dumbest PM

The second state visit came after this ....

15 Aug 2025 — The UK's largest bioethanol plant is to close after being dealt a body blow by Keir Starmer's trade deal with Donald Trump
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Popcorn !


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FAKE NEWS NEWS --



I've seen about a dozen fake 'news' sites propagating the F35 v Gripen story
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Trump sounds terrible

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Not even trying to make up a story

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Trump has now been asked 4 times *how* the US will be running Venezuela and has waffled each time.
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refitman wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2026 5:20 pm Trump has now been asked 4 times *how* the US will be running Venezuela and has waffled each time.
NO CLUE !!!!
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Meanwhile, Starmer is still trying to work out exactly how far up Trump's arse his tongue needs to be.
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Ah, he's finally made a statement. He's supporting Trump.

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Meanwhile , and I'd normally doublecheck all this, but it's LATE for me ---



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FAKE NEWS ON MADURO VP ????????

We'll see tomorrow !
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meanwhile ---------------

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Aleksandar Djokic (Александар Джокич)
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Trump announced the US will administer Venezuela until a proper power transition. He said vice president Delcy Rodriguez, earlier reported in Russia by Reuters but refuted by the New York Times placing her in Caracas, pledged cooperation, dismissed Maria Corina Machado despite her Nobel Prize, linked potential troops to oil, vowed active US role in restoring and selling Venezuelan oil funded by companies while keeping the embargo until demands met, praised zero-loss military operation and declared Maduro deposed for US trial.
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Venezuelan vice president Delcy Rodriguez declared Maduro the country's sole president despite his capture, announcing the activation of the Defense Council and urging calm and unity to protect the nation during a national television address condemning US armed aggression, while ignoring Trump's claim she had assumed power and pledged cooperation. Opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Maria Corina Machado called on Venezuelans to take power into their own hands, urging readiness for instructions soon via official channels.
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--6° !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT nearly an hour later ............ coffee perking on the stove :-)

It's actually only --2 where April is near Kramatorsk, but that's unusual .

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Re: Saturday 3rd & Sunday 4th January 2026

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Really not good from WaPo and NYT

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refitman wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2026 7:30 am Really not good from WaPo and NYT

""President Donald Trump and top administration officials Saturday praised the stunning seizure of the Venezuelan president, which Trump approved at 10:46 p.m. Friday, citing both the lack of American casualties and the total secrecy surrounding the attack.

“The coordination, the stealth, the precision, the very long arm of American justice - all on display in the middle of the night,” Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth said.

Hegseth did not mention that part of that secrecy was the news outlets’ decision — unlike other countries, the US does not have a mechanism for the government to prevent publication of secrets — to hold off their reporting for several hours after the administration warned that reporting could have exposed American troops performing the operation.

Spokespeople for the White House, the Pentagon, and the Washington Post declined to comment on the conversations between journalists and officials Friday night. A Times spokesperson didn’t immediately offer a response to an inquiry.""
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Hegsniff dressing it up to make those papers being 'responsible', when they were told on the understanding that they'd keep quiet for a very few hours ?

Also gave the WaPo, at least, the time to prepare a supportive article !
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Chief Assistant Waffler Jones --

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Warmed up 5 to --1° in the shade and the sun is streaming in !
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